buyer : seems strange and asks for an appraisal

guix · 03-10-2008, 11:02 AM

Hi,

I've received a mail for one of my domains, to the mail adress mentionned in the Whois and I think there are some strange things.

In the first mail the guy says he wants to buy the domain for his company and resell it later to make some funds. He asks my price. I answer I'm considering developing a website but that I may accept an offer half way between the domainer and end-user price, and ask him to make me a proposition.

Then he replies with a typically end-user offer price, but goes on talking about strange things. Like, he wants me to have the domain appraised by independent experts, to be sure he'll be able to resell later. He telegraphs the domain would be appraised higher and that I could increase the price, but that it would be nice to make him a discount.

Well I'd sell at his offer. And I certainly don't want to make it appraise, because I think he's the one who should make it appraise if he wants to secure his investment. So I was about to answer him to make it appraise if he wants, and make me a definitive offer then.

But this is very strange, I suspect danger. Maybe it's alright, but not many chances. Maybe he's trying to make me use appraisal services (he sends me to a thread with appraisal services and wants one of them).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/442753-buyer-seems-strange-and-asks-appraisal.html

What do you advise me ? His offer is really end-user and I know if it gets appraised by pros their valutation will be just ridiculous (and true) next to this offer.

Thanks

notlikeyou · 03-10-2008, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by guix

Hi,

I've received a mail for one of my domains, to the mail adress mentionned in the Whois and I think there are some strange things.

In the first mail the guy says he wants to buy the domain for his company and resell it later to make some funds. He asks my price. I answer I'm considering developing a website but that I may accept an offer half way between the domainer and end-user price, and ask him to make me a proposition.

Then he replies with a typically end-user offer price, but goes on talking about strange things. Like, he wants me to have the domain appraised by independent experts, to be sure he'll be able to resell later. He telegraphs the domain would be appraised higher and that I could increase the price, but that it would be nice to make him a discount.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=442753

Well I'd sell at his offer. And I certainly don't want to make it appraise, because I think he's the one who should make it appraise if he wants to secure his investment. So I was about to answer him to make it appraise if he wants, and make me a definitive offer then.

But this is very strange, I suspect danger. Maybe it's alright, but not many chances. Maybe he's trying to make me use appraisal services (he sends me to a thread with appraisal services and wants one of them).

What do you advise me ? His offer is really end-user and I know if it gets appraised by pros their valutation will be just ridiculous (and true) next to this offer.

Thanks

Appraisal Scam

smashfactory · 03-10-2008, 11:50 AM

its an appraisal scam- do a search on the forum- its not something you want to even mess with- he bothers everybody

bricio · 03-10-2008, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by notlikeyou

Appraisal Scam

netzilla · 03-10-2008, 12:08 PM

Disregard it and leave it alone.

guix · 03-10-2008, 12:29 PM

You guys rock, thanks a lot. Blacklisted, no more replies, reported here : http://www.namepros.com/317467-anoth...m-email-2.html

copper · 03-10-2008, 01:48 PM

This appraisal scam still going on?
Unbelievable!

barefoottech · 03-10-2008, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by copper

This appraisal scam still going on?
Unbelievable!

Yes and so is the Nigerian scam
Scammers will continue as long as there is any potential targets.
New Domainers (newbies) are prime targets.

nielsencl · 03-10-2008, 03:26 PM

Thanks for asking and reporting this. The email domains are also a clue in this case.

Spade · 03-11-2008, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by copper

This appraisal scam still going on?
Unbelievable!

Why would they stop when their making a small fortune scamming unsuspecting novice domainers and random domain owners

SimpleDomaining · 03-12-2008, 09:34 AM

scam. if he wants a domain - good luck, let him go and appraise it at his own appraisal company

DomainBuyerBroker · 03-13-2008, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Spade

Why would they stop when their making a small fortune scamming unsuspecting novice domainers and random domain owners

Scammers love new markets. I remember getting ebay spoof emails way back in 1998.

newms · 03-13-2008, 05:27 PM

Yeah and these scammers are real idiots too or at least they take you for one. When I was a noob I got one of these scam emails and didn't realise that it was a scam. The guy wanted me to do a $70+ appraisal and sent a link to a forum post where he was supposedly buying domains and was recommended that appraisal system. Anyway, I did a cheap $5 appraisal (I was a noob) and when the name was appraised for something like $70 I offered to sell it to him for half that, but the thief insisted that I get it appraised for $70 from his system.

I had my suspicions about this Mr Driscoll before but that really opened my eyes to the scam - Why would I pay $70+ to appraise a name I was willing to sell for ~$30?

weblord · 03-13-2008, 05:29 PM

actually so-called domain buyer is not interested in the domain but interested in you falling for the appraisal scam

xvxmatthewxvx · 03-13-2008, 05:48 PM

From "Winski"

Who the hell says on forums "Ok the 2000 is transferred into your account" ever heard of email? I replied for a while and said I would sell it to you even if the value came to 5$ as long as you pay for the appraisal. He kept ignoring me as I kept saying "You do the appraisal" etc. Then he finally said "LISTEN this is a common practice!" etc etc
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=442753

I just came across this forum and this confirmed my suspicions so I told him to royally go to hell.

Hello,

I'm checking sites with domains for sale from time to time. By my opinion, bestpricecpu.com can generate income. What is your price?

We are working on software market. Reselling gives us a good income opportunity but it does not have relation to our main business.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Ronald Winski
Vice President
PHR Systems
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Devil_Dog · 03-13-2008, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Spade

Why would they stop when their making a small fortune scamming unsuspecting novice domainers and random domain owners

My age old question is: How does is this individual/s always know to target "new" domainers?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=442753

Makes you wonder if they're trolling the forums.

newms · 03-13-2008, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Devil_Dog

My age old question is: How does is this individual/s always know to target "new" domainers?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=442753

Makes you wonder if they're trolling the forums.

In my case, I got scam email 2 days after I regd my first domain. I think they look for new domain registrations especially those listed for sale.

xvxmatthewxvx · 03-14-2008, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Devil_Dog

My age old question is: How does is this individual/s always know to target "new" domainers?

Makes you wonder if they're trolling the forums.

I'm sure they troll forums too but I got this message before I made any posts whatsoever on any forum.

My guess is they go to to websites like Sedo and copy and paste all the links and use a program to do a massive whois on all the names and automail them and wait to see who replies.

I was willing to sell my name as it was the first name I registered and I didn't think the name was good except for an end user POSSIBLY (even thats a stretch) so I would of been happy with 10 dollars. Just wanted to dump it.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=442753

sdsinc · 03-14-2008, 06:14 AM

They seem to target owners of fresh registrations.
New names are easy to spot by checking the drop lists or zone files.

03-10-2008, 11:02 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
guix NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 92	buyer : seems strange and asks for an appraisal Hi, I've received a mail for one of my domains, to the mail adress mentionned in the Whois and I think there are some strange things. In the first mail the guy says he wants to buy the domain for his company and resell it later to make some funds. He asks my price. I answer I'm considering developing a website but that I may accept an offer half way between the domainer and end-user price, and ask him to make me a proposition. Then he replies with a typically end-user offer price, but goes on talking about strange things. Like, he wants me to have the domain appraised by independent experts, to be sure he'll be able to resell later. He telegraphs the domain would be appraised higher and that I could increase the price, but that it would be nice to make him a discount. Well I'd sell at his offer. And I certainly don't want to make it appraise, because I think he's the one who should make it appraise if he wants to secure his investment. So I was about to answer him to make it appraise if he wants, and make me a definitive offer then. But this is very strange, I suspect danger. Maybe it's alright, but not many chances. Maybe he's trying to make me use appraisal services (he sends me to a thread with appraisal services and wants one of them). ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/442753-buyer-seems-strange-and-asks-appraisal.html What do you advise me ? His offer is really end-user and I know if it gets appraised by pros their valutation will be just ridiculous (and true) next to this offer. Thanks

03-10-2008, 11:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
smashfactory Domain Goddess Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,101	its an appraisal scam- do a search on the forum- its not something you want to even mess with- he bothers everybody __________________ BOO!

03-10-2008, 12:29 PM	THREAD STARTER #6 (permalink)
guix NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 92	You guys rock, thanks a lot. Blacklisted, no more replies, reported here : http://www.namepros.com/317467-anoth...m-email-2.html Last edited by guix; 03-10-2008 at 12:40 PM.

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03-10-2008, 03:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
nielsencl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,513	Thanks for asking and reporting this. The email domains are also a clue in this case. __________________ Lorraine Bowman - Internet Expert Witness - Bankrupture - Ad Creation Marketplace - How To Sell Domain Name

03-10-2008, 12:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
netzilla Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,717	Disregard it and leave it alone.

03-12-2008, 09:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
SimpleDomaining Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,639 Follow @simpledomaining	scam. if he wants a domain - good luck, let him go and appraise it at his own appraisal company __________________ naturalskincareproducts.com

03-13-2008, 05:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
newms NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 219	Yeah and these scammers are real idiots too or at least they take you for one. When I was a noob I got one of these scam emails and didn't realise that it was a scam. The guy wanted me to do a $70+ appraisal and sent a link to a forum post where he was supposedly buying domains and was recommended that appraisal system. Anyway, I did a cheap $5 appraisal (I was a noob) and when the name was appraised for something like $70 I offered to sell it to him for half that, but the thief insisted that I get it appraised for $70 from his system. I had my suspicions about this Mr Driscoll before but that really opened my eyes to the scam - Why would I pay $70+ to appraise a name I was willing to sell for ~$30?

03-13-2008, 05:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,785	actually so-called domain buyer is not interested in the domain but interested in you falling for the appraisal scam __________________ Nabaza.com - Amaia

03-13-2008, 05:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
xvxmatthewxvx NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 25	From "Winski" Who the hell says on forums "Ok the 2000 is transferred into your account" ever heard of email? I replied for a while and said I would sell it to you even if the value came to 5$ as long as you pay for the appraisal. He kept ignoring me as I kept saying "You do the appraisal" etc. Then he finally said "LISTEN this is a common practice!" etc etc ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=442753 I just came across this forum and this confirmed my suspicions so I told him to royally go to hell. Hello, I'm checking sites with domains for sale from time to time. By my opinion, bestpricecpu.com can generate income. What is your price? We are working on software market. Reselling gives us a good income opportunity but it does not have relation to our main business. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Ronald Winski Vice President PHR Systems ================================================== ========================== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== =========================

03-14-2008, 06:14 AM	#19 (permalink)
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