.NET versus .ORG which is better?

It all depends on keywords.

Some keywords e.g. health, medical, education and charity related work better with .org than .net

better keyword = that tld.
else = usually .net
organisations = org works better

What owntype said. It really depends on the keyword.

Commercial products are not always that great in .ORG, however there are many types of domains that fit .ORG well (Health/Medical/Legal/Education)

Brad

taking a random keyword .net is better because the average Joe thinks so - not us.

lincolndsp said:

taking a random keyword .net is better because the average Joe thinks so - not us.

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That's what I meant basically.

If you find a good keyword in a .org domain then take that, like cheese.org is better than cheeser.net imo, but in general org is better for organisations helping the "public" and .net is better for other websites both commercial and personal so only if you find a good keyword in .org take that for other purposes else go with .net.

No. Random Joe does not think that .net is "better" than .org.
That is incestuous domainer-pseudo-logic.

Quite to the contrary, when coupled with the proper keyword, .org conveys a degree of trust and authority that, in certain topical circumstances, even .com doesn't.

.net is simply viewed as that "other website name that people use when someone else already owns the dot com..." Don't get me wrong, I own .nets (that I certainly wish I owned in .com) and they're fine for development, but if I had a choice to own SanFrancisco.net or SanFrancisco.org, I'd take the .org every single time.

Dongsman said:

.net is simply viewed as that "other website name that people use when someone else already owns the dot com..." Don't get me wrong, I own .nets (that I certainly wish I owned in .com) and they're fine for development, but if I had a choice to own SanFrancisco.net or SanFrancisco.org, I'd take the .org every single time.

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Opinions are like butts, I would have to disagree with you. Most keywords fits better on .net, people I know would find a .net much more interesting than a .org one.

However if the .org name has a better keyword, shorter or better name to it than the .net then I'd take it over the net. Else it's .net unless it's an organisation of some sort.

Regards Blade

It totally depends on the keywords. As many other domainers have said on other threads, .orgs with words that are too commercial do not make much sense.

I agree with some of this but I don't really get why you'd choose SanFrancisco.org over the .net. I'd definitely choose HealthCare.org over the .net but I'd take ohio.net before ohio.org. But as your post the same, this is just personal preference.

Dongsman said:

No. Random Joe does not think that .net is "better" than .org.
That is incestuous domainer-pseudo-logic.

Quite to the contrary, when coupled with the proper keyword, .org conveys a degree of trust and authority that, in certain topical circumstances, even .com doesn't.

.net is simply viewed as that "other website name that people use when someone else already owns the dot com..." Don't get me wrong, I own .nets (that I certainly wish I owned in .com) and they're fine for development, but if I had a choice to own SanFrancisco.net or SanFrancisco.org, I'd take the .org every single time.

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Dongsman said:

No. Random Joe does not think that .net is "better" than .org.
That is incestuous domainer-pseudo-logic.

Quite to the contrary, when coupled with the proper keyword, .org conveys a degree of trust and authority that, in certain topical circumstances, even .com doesn't.

.net is simply viewed as that "other website name that people use when someone else already owns the dot com..." Don't get me wrong, I own .nets (that I certainly wish I owned in .com) and they're fine for development, but if I had a choice to own SanFrancisco.net or SanFrancisco.org, I'd take the .org every single time.

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Totally agree. .Net sales have been plunging for the last couple of years as it dilutes itself into just another tdl and will always be remembered as the name to get if the .com was not available.

.Org however never set out to compete with the .com - it was used for non-profits, educational etc etc sites. In fact .org is the equivelent of .com as far as if you needed a name for your newly registered charity for the Haiti earthquake - the first extension and most preferable name is .org - it even beats ,com as the ext of choice in this niche.

Please read what i am saying carefully. obviously it is not as valuable as .com, but it is the ext of choice for the list mentioned.

But .org is still more preferable even for names not associated with non profits etc - it has become the brand of trust and security (something that is not gone by unnoticed by scammers building .org websites)

Now take .net - what is that an ext of choice for? Nothing!! It is an option when you cant get the .com

Orgs are heading skywards, .nets heading towards a crash landing.

And I am NOT basing my opinions on the recent 1,000,000 dollar deal for poker.org - although it certainly confirms that .orgs have a powerful brand. And dont forget coffee.org which went for six figures last year. Neither are charity educational sites.

I think you need to reread this again very closely and see what you're trying to convey...

MillersCrossing said:

Totally agree. .Net sales have been plunging for the last couple of years as it dilutes itself into just another tdl and will always be remembered as the name to get if the .com was not available.

.Org however never set out to compete with the .com - it was used for non-profits, educational etc etc sites. In fact .org is the equivelent of .com as far as if you needed a name for your newly registered charity for the Haiti earthquake - the first extension and most preferable name is .org - it even beats ,com as the ext of choice in this niche.

Please read what i am saying carefully. obviously it is not as valuable as .com, but it is the ext of choice for the list mentioned.

But .org is still more preferable even for names not associated with non profits etc - it has become the brand of trust and security (something that is not gone by unnoticed by scammers building .org websites)

Now take .net - what is that an ext of choice for? Nothing!! It is an option when you cant get the .com

Orgs are heading skywards, .nets heading towards a crash landing.

And I am NOT basing my opinions on the recent 1,000,000 dollar deal for poker.org - although it certainly confirms that .orgs have a powerful brand. And dont forget coffee.org which went for six figures last year. Neither are charity educational sites.

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Blade1941 said:

Else it's .net unless it's an organisation of some sort.

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Why use net for something that isn't a NETWORK????????

(no adequate rolleyes smiley)

Obviously, all of this is keyword dependent. The fact is, .org is a broadly accepted TLD that conveys meaning and purpose when coupled with a synergistic keyword.
.net is simply the second choice that people use when the .com is taken.

People remember and accept .org for what it is.
They don't do that with .net.

No more than .net isn't limited to networks, .org isn't limited to organizations. It works beautifully for anything where you're trying to gather the attentions of people. It works great for forums, it works FANTASTICALLY for geo- I'll even be using a good .org as the main platform for a broader collective of related city guides.

It's OK that some people 'don't get' .org. There are people who 'don't get' New Orleans either, but as the saying goes, if you need it explained to you, you wouldn't get it anyway.

A better developed .org will out perform even the best .com, same as .net etc etc etc.

No matter the keyword, it all depends on content and quality. Nvm the extension.

As to the op's question, I like the long term prospects of org. Heck, even the short term prospects.

More people are going online so more people need websites. Remember, most people are not domainers. They don't follow the 3L 4L 5L, premium letter, under 14 character max, com for commercial net for computer related and org for non profit. FreshBakedBread.org is probably more appealing to a bakery than FBB.com, regardless of the price.

New businesses will choose what is available, or appropriately priced in an extension that they recognize and trust. People recognize and trust org.

I think org will do very well in the future, not just for green/education/medical/financial, but also for commercial terms and products. Hairdryer.org sold for $1500 last week at snapnames. Everyweek on DNJ we are seeing more and more org sales, and more not fitting into "the rules". I don't think that is going to change.

I have a couple of products sites on org domains that are more than covering reg fee, so people will buy products from commercial related org sites.

However, net is still a great opportunity depending on what you are looking for.
I have been grabbing product domains with decent search volume (with the com parked) and setting up AOM shops. There is no original content on these sites but because of the domain they seem to rank well, particularly in Bing/Yahoo and are easily covering reg fee.

Also non product keywords. I picked up a financial related net around 2 months ago and set it up at whypark. I put 5 original articles on it and no whypark articles. A financial anaylst emailed me today to purchase advertising. He wants to pay a year in advance. The dot com is parked, so is the org (which I would have preferred)

I have a few nets/orgs that are owned in com by some well know domainers. Some are a little long, some may not fit the extension as defined by traditional domain standards, but I am okay with that. These are domains that were picked up for reg fee. They have decent search volume and it is only a matter of time before a business owner decides a net/org for xxx-xxxx works just as well for him as a XX XXX.com.

I think in terms of investment there is more opportunity with org just based on the availability of well searched product and service keywords. Hairdryers.org $1500. Most would call that crazy but I bet we will be seeing a lot more of these types of sales.

whould u guys say a financial keywords like mortgage will go well in .org if all other .com .net are taken?

i got a few "wordmortgage.org" in my buy list with their .com .net are parked, some have 33k exact searches a month on google.

Archangel said:

I think you need to reread this again very closely and see what you're trying to convey...

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I thought I made it very clear.

1. .org has spread out to domain names that are not the traditional .org keywords of a few years ago

2. .org is going up in value, .net is going down in value. Check out 2005 prices for both extensions in 2005 and now in 2010.

Why dont you tell me what you think I have left ambiguous??

Dongsman said:

Why use net for something that isn't a NETWORK????????

(no adequate rolleyes smiley)

Obviously, all of this is keyword dependent. The fact is, .org is a broadly accepted TLD that conveys meaning and purpose when coupled with a synergistic keyword.
.net is simply the second choice that people use when the .com is taken.

People remember and accept .org for what it is.
They don't do that with .net.

No more than .net isn't limited to networks, .org isn't limited to organizations. It works beautifully for anything where you're trying to gather the attentions of people. It works great for forums, it works FANTASTICALLY for geo- I'll even be using a good .org as the main platform for a broader collective of related city guides.

It's OK that some people 'don't get' .org. There are people who 'don't get' New Orleans either, but as the saying goes, if you need it explained to you, you wouldn't get it anyway.

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Sorry, but I can't talk for people living in North/South America or the UK, but here in Sweden and Scandinavia, .net and .com are more "accepted" than .org unless it's an organisation.

And I visit quite a few Swedish pages a day, most of them has .com .net or .info, very rarely do I see .org unless it's an organisation of some sort OR if they caught a nice KEYWORD in that tld.

But I don't think it has anything with .net being for network or so, people just prefer trends, and since net is more popular here people use that.

It seems to me as if you have registered a few dot.orgs and want to take your anger out on the debaters of this thread who are in your mind "against" that tld, I'm not against the tld I'm just stating what most people around me find more convenient to type, and that is .net or .com.

MillersCrossing said:

I thought I made it very clear.
2. .org is going up in value, .net is going down in value. Check out 2005 prices for both extensions in 2005 and now in 2010.

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That's good, I like it that I can buy .net domains cheaper. That's just positive. :imho:

That isn't true. Many use .net for networking sites without care if the .com is registered or not.

People remember and accept .org for what it is. But more do this with .net than you might be thinking.

.org and .net aren't limited. I've seen quite a few .org's that had keywords outside the spectrum of organizations and .net outside the spectrum of networking.

I've never really heard anything bad/negative about the .net until RegFly offered them dirt-cheap many years ago. It doesn't surprise me that .info now gets the brunt of that seeing as they're less than $1 each at GoDaddy.

Dongsman said:

.net is simply the second choice that people use when the .com is taken.

People remember and accept .org for what it is.
They don't do that with .net.

.org isn't limited to organizations.

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Blade1941 said:

Sorry, but I can't talk for people living in North/South America or the UK, but here in Sweden and Scandinavia, .net and .com are more "accepted" than .org unless it's an organisation.

It seems to me as if you have registered a few dot.orgs and want to take your anger out on the debaters of this thread who are in your mind "against" that tld,

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I for one dont own any .orgs or .nets but am contributing to a discussion of which of the two exts are going to be more valuable as time goes by.

You dont use .org in Sweden, but you use loads of .nets - great - in the USA - orgs are part of every day life.

But why bring the conversation down by insinuating that someone has registered .org and feels angry or threatened by an alternative opinion???

Do you value your own opinion that much that u think it would make people feel threatened?

Try and keep the conversation civil please - its not that difficult

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I for one dont own any .orgs or .nets but am contributing to a discussion of which of the two exts are going to be more valuable as time goes by.

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As time goes by? Well we're living in the presence and right now I'd say like I've said it before, it depends on the keyword and if it's an organisation or not.

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You dont use .org in Sweden, but you use loads of .nets - great - in the USA - orgs are part of every day life.

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That's why I hate threads like this, it makes the phrase I said before true, opinions are lite butts, different.

MillersCrossing said:

But why bring the conversation down by insinuating that someone has registered .org and feels angry or threatened by an alternative opinion???

Do you value your own opinion that much that u think it would make people feel threatened?

Try and keep the conversation civil please - its not that difficult

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I merely insulted you there, I said it seems so, and usually people defend what they love or like not what they dislike, maybe are you about to register one or something. It's not like you would defend something you do not care about both me and you know that's not quite true.

I'm beeing as civil as anyone here, I can't just say I agree if I don't because then it would not be a honest discussion going on here. Cheers. :P

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. Cheers. :P

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Who can argue with logic like that. Enjoy your weekend

Civility should be retained, agreed.

But I gotta say this is kinda silly. A hyperbole, perhaps, but saying it's an "everyday" part of American life is ridiculous. That's like saying ppl access a .org site daily. I and many of my friends have never visited a .org in eons, aside from the occasional organizational website. I'm remaining civil in my asking but what made you assume the .org is so commonplace in America? I truly seek edification to this.

MillersCrossing said:

You dont use .org in Sweden, but you use loads of .nets - great - in the USA - orgs are part of every day life.


Try and keep the conversation civil please - its not that difficult

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Totally agree. .Net sales have been plunging for the last couple of years as it dilutes itself into just another tdl and will always be remembered as the name to get if the .com was not available.

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I'd like to see evidence of this. I hear it a lot and no one ever produces any facts. I see the domain sales chart weekly and it always has more .net sales than .org. There is a rumor going around that org is gaining on .net. It's just a rumor though.

Why use net for something that isn't a NETWORK????????

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Because it's the interNET. Makes more sense in lots of cases more than an org. NET is surely more descriptive of an internet website than ORG. Unless you have a real organization an ORG site make no sense.

I for one dont own any .orgs or .nets but am contributing to a discussion of which of the two exts are going to be more valuable as time goes by.

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Then exactly what do you base any of your assertions?

.Org however never set out to compete with the .com - it was used for non-profits, educational etc etc sites.

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This is exactly why it will always be behind .net. Org was stigmitized from early on. NET never had that problem. It's just less popular than COM.

You were right with everything you said. Well spoken! Reps added

labrocca said:

I'd like to see evidence of this. I hear it a lot and no one ever produces any facts. I see the domain sales chart weekly and it always has more .net sales than .org. There is a rumor going around that org is gaining on .net. It's just a rumor though.



Because it's the interNET. Makes more sense in lots of cases more than an org. NET is surely more descriptive of an internet website than ORG. Unless you have a real organization an ORG site make no sense.



Then exactly what do you base any of your assertions?



This is exactly why it will always be behind .net. Org was stigmitized from early on. NET never had that problem. It's just less popular than COM.

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