Amsterdam cctld results

wot said:

DiamondRings.com/.net $168,250 - late entry non cctld - being an old cynic, perhaps they were put in knowing a sale was on the cards and to boost the auction results.:gl:

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Yeah, I believe all three similar "Ring(s)" domains sold ... it would be interesting to hear why they were a late entry, to whom they sold, and what the specific plans are with the domain names IMHO. :blink:

Anyway, a few interesting results and what looks like good news for .us. As expected the .tv's failed to sell and .cm picked up a few low end sales. The steal of the show Fuel.in at $900- just my opinion.

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Agreed ... the ".TV's" stood out in this auction; overpriced, and even know discounted for the event, along with hefty annual premium renewal prices (and Rick specifically acknowledged prior to the auction that these annual premium renewal fees were a hindrance to ".TV" sales), as well! :imho:
-Jeff

A couple impressive .US sales with CheapCars.us and Job.us

.US has been on the move with some good recent BIDO and TDNAM sales.

Brad

Jeff said:

Yeah, I believe all three similar "Ring(s)" domains sold ... it would be interesting to hear why they were a late entry, to whom they sold, and what the specific plans are with the domain names IMHO. :blink:



Agreed ... the ".TV's" stood out in this auction; overpriced, and even know discounted for the event, along with hefty annual premium renewal prices (and Rick specifically acknowledged prior to the auction that these annual premium renewal fees were a hindrance to ".TV" sales), as well! :imho:
-Jeff

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Jeff ... people are not stupid ... even with these premiums ...

future .TV premiums can be raised substantially for domains

that have not been registered or that get dropped ... with this

kind of policy repeating itself historically this extension will

never gain mass appeal ... they are pricing the extension

like its Rodeo Drive and Rodeo Drive is not and will never

be for the masses ... I just sold a .com that I handregistered

for over $30,000 today :bah:

Righto, and you also gotta love some of the other (non .COM) sales;
Houses.co.uk, Job.us, Brussels.net, etc. :gl:

Good observations and insight here!
-Jeff

Jeff said:

Righto, and you also gotta love some of the other (non .COM) sales;
Houses.co.uk, Job.us, Brussels.net, etc. :gl:

Good observations and insight here!
-Jeff

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Take any of these domains you just mentioned ...

How can you loose with them ? ... the same in .TV you are at the

mercy of a policy that limits its potential and therefore becomes

a SIGNIFICANT business risk ... businesses have enough risk as it

is :bah: ...

I already spent some of todays gain on new domains :D (no new .tvs)

cosmicray said:

I just sold a .com that I handregistered

for over $30,000 today :bah:

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What industry was the domain related to?

DubDubDubDot said:

What industry was the domain related to?

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gambling

cosmicray said:

... the same in .TV you are at the

mercy of a policy that limits its potential and therefore becomes

a SIGNIGICANT business risk ... businesses have enough risk as it

is :bah: ... I already spent some of todays gain on new .coms :D

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^ You're preaching to the choire, my friend ... you know how I feel about the ".TV", and the marketplace has once again validated my long-standing, and very PUBLIC honest and humble opinions! :yell: :imho:

PS. Congrats on your .COM sale (and .COM reinvestment(s))! :tu:
See you soon.
-Jeff

Jeff said:

^ You're preaching to the choire, my friend ... you know how I feel about the ".TV", and the marketplace has once again validated my long-standing, and very PUBLIC honest and humble opinions! :yell: :imho:

PS. Congrats on your .COM sale (and .COM reinvestment(s))! :tu:
See you soon.
-Jeff

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I love being a .commie :bah:

cosmicray said:

I love being a .commie :bah:

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Apparently, so does your bank account! :tu:

-Jeff

Jeff said:

Apparently, so does your bank account! :tu:

-Jeff

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By low sell high works better than buy high sell higher :lol:

Some interesting results there. Such a shame so many reserves were so high. If the sellers had the guts to chop them in half at the start, it would be a much better chance to generate a bit of a competition & possible surpass what the original reserve would have been.

Saying that though, because there were so many domains in different niches, might have been hard to have the competition. Eg the .nl specialists only looking at .nl etc.

cosmicray said:

By low sell high works better than buy high sell higher :lol:

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That's spot on!

the single .me listed was sold as well - Paris.me @ EUR4300

lincolndsp said:

the single .me listed was sold as well - Paris.me @ EUR4300

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I wonder if Perez.me is available? :lol:

One more good thing for me is a hack sale beside the nice .us sales.. Oas.is went for $300.. Not much but not a great keyword.. I think a few of mine could do better (Monito rs, Banne rs,
Traile rs...) Nice for the hack market.. The .tvs were totally overpriced and have to high reg fees..

Someone lucky got RealityShows.TV real bargain 1600 EUR

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Someone lucky got RealityShows.TV real bargain 1600 EUR

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Who's the Usual Suspect™ ".TV" domainer ... who bid on it at a very public auction? :blink: :red:
IYHO.

-Jeff

wot said:

Targeted TRAFFIC ccTLDs 2009 Live Auction Results | Domain Name News
The steal of the show Fuel.in at $900- just my opinion.

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I took a big risk in offering this (and Permits.us that sold for a mere $400) at zero reserve and I lost...never again.....so much for complaints of sellers having reserves that are "too high"......!!

Binfus said:

I took a big risk in offering this (and Permits.us that sold for a mere $400) at zero reserve and I lost...never again.....so much for complaints of sellers having reserves that are "too high"......!!

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Stopped doing it myself with a Sedo .co.uk disaster a year or so ago, the only beneficiaries are the auction house and the lucky buyer.

wot said:

Anyway, a few interesting results and what looks like good news for .us. As expected the .tv's failed to sell and .cm picked up a few low end sales. The steal of the show Fuel.in at $900- just my opinion.

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Jeff said:

^ You're preaching to the choire, my friend ... you know how I feel about the ".TV", and the marketplace has once again validated my long-standing, and very PUBLIC honest and humble opinions! :yell: :imho:

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Marketplace? or a marketplace with majority of domainers interested in various cctlds?

The live auction event was a big failure in my opinion, because many killer names in major cctlds have received almost no interest at all.

The auction was not for .TV names alone, and the fact that the majority of audience were domainers and NOT end users.

Unlike the online auctions, live auctions fail to provide:

1. Extended visibility (featuring the auction in multiple websites)

2. Extended duration (usually online auctions close after 7 days from the auction start date)

3. Targeted audience base (Live auctions have very limited number of targeted audience in total, with very few end-users)

Here is the list of .NL names that were sold via Sedo's BeNeLux exclusive online auction held in November 2008 :


Aed.nl € 25,500

Mijn.nl € 19,500

Daten.nl € 18,000

liedjes.nl € 15,000

Huurautos.nl € 11,100

Kapsels.nl € 8,500

Gratisseks.nl € 7,500

Huiswerk.nl € 6,600

Alcohol.nl € 6,400

Partijen.nl € 5,000

Geurtje.nl € 4,860

Pinksteren.nl € 4,100

Profielen.nl € 4,000

Zalen.nl € 3,600

Filmen.nl € 3,500

Zeilboten.be € 1,560

Topdomein.nl € 1,000

Contrarily, the Traffic Amsterdam event has failed to push many .NL names even though the live auction event was held in Netherlands, the country which owns the .NL cctld.

The unsold .NL names in Traffic Amsterdam Live auction event:

666.nl

Local.nl

Bioscopen.nl (cinemas)

Reclames.nl (Advertisements)

The result of the live auction event clearly shows that without interest (lack of targeted audience), the domain names (irrespective of the cctlds) wont do well in a live auction event which has a very little exposure.

wot said:

DiamondRings.com/.net $168,250 - late entry non cctld - being an old cynic, perhaps they were put in knowing a sale was on the cards and to boost the auction results.:gl:
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Maybe ?
Amsterdam has been a major diamond centre for a very loooong time.

It surprises me when names of that quality end up in a domain auction.



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.tv said:

Marketplace? or a marketplace with majority of domainers interested in various cctlds?

The live auction event was a big failure in my opinion, because many killer names in major cctlds have received almost no interest at all.

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Good general summation, but let's be clear regarding the poor performance - once again - of the listed major Geo ".TV's" (also in which they were specially discounted in the hefty & recurring premium ANNUAL renewal fees); Amsterdam.tv failed to secure one bid at $24,000, Spain.tv was passed at $28,000, and Germany.tv did not get any bids at $54,000 - these are primo Geo ".TV's" at a discounted renewal rate(s), and they bombed IMHO. Even investor domainers, if they spotted value and had any faith in the future of the extension, would have found a way to bid on these country Geo's at this venue - Rick can attract that type of audience. :gl:

How much would Spain.com be worth? Germany.com? :yell:
Are ".TV's now less than 1% - 1.5% of the value of corresponding .COM's? IYHO's.

Moreover, and despite the appearance and illusion of Geo ".TV" demand by End users (ie., unsubstantiated statements such as, "I've seen domainers, who remain nameless, turn down $XXX,xxx for their Geo .TV's" as often claimed in the .TV Forum) and securing 'bids' at Sedo (which, they'll tell you has more End users), the fact remains that none of these domains would sell at Sedo or similar even if the above Reserve Prices were reduced (and the hefty renewal fees were even further discounted), in my judgement ... yes, Rick's auction was a good judge of things to come for the struggling ".TV" (and Geo's, in particular) TLD! :red: :imho:

Regards,
-Jeff