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Old 02-24-2006, 07:02 PM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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Caution I think 1&1 is trying to steal my domain!?


Read the email below to see what I mean. This was sent to me today.

Attention: Brian Raymond, United
States

Re: Transfer of und1.com

The Schlund+Partner AG has received a request from

1&1 Internet AG D-56410 Montabaur, Elgendorfer Stra? 57 on behalf of 1&1
Internet AG


on 24-Feb-2006 for us to become the new registrar of record.

You have received this message because you are listed as the Registered
Name Holder or Administrative contact for this domain name in the WHOIS
database.

Please read the following important information about transferring your
domain name:

o You must agree to enter into a new Registration Agreement with us. You
can review the full terms and conditions of the Agreement at:
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o Once you have entered into the Agreement, the transfer will take place
within five(5) calendar days unless the current registrar of record
denies the request.

o Once a transfer takes place, you will not be able to transfer to
another registrar for 60 days, apart from a transfer back to the
original registrar in cases where both registrars so agree or where
a decision in the dispute resolution process so directs.

If you WISH TO PROCEED with the transfer, you must respond to this
message via one of the following methods (note if you do not respond
by 10-Mar-2006 und1.com will not be transferred to us.).

o Please go to our website
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to confirm.

If you DO NOT WANT the transfer to proceed, then don't respond to this
message.

If you have any questions about this process, please contact
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With kind regards
your Schlund+Partner Team


Of course, I will not be responding to their message, because I don't want to just give them my domain for free.

I originally registered this domain within a few days of registering several other llln.com names. I liked this particular one because it was pronounceable and had a "1" at the end. I only recently made the mental connection that my domain is a kind-of mispelling of 1und1, which is the German version of 1and1, which is the only way to spell 1&1 when you put it in your web-browser. I parked the domain at Sedo with "und1" as the keyword because I wasn't sure what else to use. It had fair traffic from the beginning and gets around 170-280 uniques a month. I also bought und1 in .net, .biz and .info flavors as well, in case I wanted to develop them or someone wanted to buy them as a group in the future (I've done that with several of my short names). I guess my point is, I had no malicious intent when I reg'd the domain.

After I got the email, I checked uspto.gov to see what their actual trademark is. It's 1&1 (with the ampersand) and that's the only way they use it except for here on the net. It has an archive.org history but it's just an email link on each page.

Do you think they have any cause to try and seize my name? Is this an attempted robbery? How should I proceed? Should I contact their company or wait to see what happens? Should I contact ICANN or my registrar? Opinions anyone?
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is it und1.com vs. 1and1.com ? i don't see any similarities but a misspelled traffic, if they're interested see what they can offer you about your domain, but it's a tm infringement to me
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double check that it is not a spoofed email or that any url's in it are spoof url's.

Chances are it is somebody playing about.
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I don't see any TM issues. Transfer the domain to another registrar and leave 1and1 forever.
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1and1 are just being gready
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it is hard to say whether it is a TM. With google, anything oogle is a problem.
und1 is similar in that respect.
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ignore them. there is no 1:1 TM problem.
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It could be a scam also. You know, you click on those links it tells you to click on, then it takes you somewhere different, you put in your information and they steal your account?
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Ignore the email, the domain is yours and it's a random domain name. Three letters that are shared between 1and1.com and und1.com doesn't mean a trademark issue. If it was a problem, every site with the word "and" in its domain would be a trademark issue.

If there would be any issue with trademarks (highly unlikely) the only thing I could think of is the basketball company AND1.

Good luck, keep us updated!
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Ignore the email, the domain is yours and it's a random domain name. Three letters that are shared between 1and1.com and und1.com doesn't mean a trademark issue. If it was a problem, every site with the word "and" in its domain would be a trademark issue.
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If there would be any issue with trademarks (highly unlikely) the only thing I could think of is the basketball company AND1.

Good luck, keep us updated!
I will keep you guys updated... thanks!

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