domain PaypalDeposit.com

dodguy · Aug 10, 2009

hey everyone, just wondering how much you think this name is worth. I have it for auction at:

Bido.com - Social Auction Platform

it's been reviewed on killerstartups.com and ever since then i've had about 200-400 uniques a day. i started it as a business venture but decided to take up real estate instead. let me know if you need any other info!

oh and:
Search Terms & Google Rankings:

*paypaldeposit - 1
*paypal deposit - 2
*paypal deposit amounts - 7
*paypal cash - 15
*deposit money paypal - 6
*how to cash paypal money - 6
*deposit money to paypal - 8
*paypal home - 11
*deposited money in your paypal account - 4
*paypal current fee - 12
*what is paypal deposit amount - 5
*deposit paypal - 9
*pay pal money - 8

Traffic Proof:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5434/paypaldeposit.jpg

MicroGuy · Aug 10, 2009

You can't use the word PayPal. Zero.

Larry Fling · Aug 10, 2009

Bido actually approved it?
I agree, RegFee

bmugford · Aug 10, 2009

Major TM issue. I don't think it says much for BIDO that this name got approved.

Brad

MasterOfMyDomains · Aug 11, 2009

I think bido must be getting desperate,I am going to submit some of my garbage domains,this one will sell for the same price that septicTank.org just sold for at bido 3dollars

How did the world miss that one...septictank.org

expressloan.org sold at bido for 5 bucks,another miss damn it......

lockedloan.com sold for 1dollar at bido.....

restarauntDecorator.com sold for 5dollars at bido.....

Bido is obviously hurting to deal with that kind of trash,

also you can vote on which domain to see auctioned and is easy to buy votes,not implying this person did that,I dont want a lawsuit but it doesnt sound like that is working for bido to well.

cmason · Aug 11, 2009

Eeek. I would not want to take a chance on this domain. Potential value of way below $0 if legal action is taken. Like the rest, I am shocked this is for sale at Bido. Huge trademark infringement.

MediaHound · Aug 11, 2009

A few points here - this is a Reserve auction and as such, was not up for voting by the Bido community. Reserve auctions are a self-serve listing process.
Secondly, it may be used legitimately even if it incorporates a mark, for example, a satire site, or a not for profit community, etc. See for example Welcome to PayPalSucks.com, PayPal Lawsuit, PayPal Alternative, PayPal Complaints, Fraud & Evil behind the PayPal system!
It's not for Bido to judge what one does with a domain.
Also keep in mind that most of the English language, to much chagrin, is trademarked.

MicroGuy · Aug 11, 2009

MediaHound said:
A few points here - this is a Reserve auction and as such, was not up for voting by the Bido community. Reserve auctions are a self-serve listing process.
Secondly, it may be used legitimately even if it incorporates a mark, for example, a satire site, or a not for profit community, etc. See for example Welcome to PayPalSucks.com, PayPal Lawsuit, PayPal Alternative, PayPal Complaints, Fraud & Evil behind the PayPal system!
It's not for Bido to judge what one does with a domain.
Also keep in mind that most of the English language, to much chagrin, is trademarked.

Are you serious?

Jaco · Aug 11, 2009

He's correct.
What determines TM infringement in a domain is its ultimate use. This isn't to say that fire cannot be flirted with in a name alone, but I own a (MajorCommercialWebSite)Alternatives.com domain that gets a decent amount of traffic- they hate it and have sent boogieman letters in the past- but there's nothing they can do, since it isn't monetized and is entirely within the realm of free speech.

MicroGuy · Aug 11, 2009

Dongsman said:
He's correct.
What determines TM infringement in a domain is its ultimate use. This isn't to say that fire cannot be flirted with in a name alone, but I own a (MajorCommercialWebSite)Alternatives.com domain that gets a decent amount of traffic- they hate it and have sent boogieman letters in the past- but there's nothing they can do, since it isn't monetized and is entirely within the realm of free speech.

It's hard to imagine a non-infringing use of the phrase "PayPal Deposit". IMO.

Jaco · Aug 11, 2009

I kinda agree with you- this is definitely so close to the fire that you can smell the embers, but if it's used as a protest site of some kind (PAYPAL SCREWED UP MY DEPOSIT!!!), it's legit. Pretty much ANY other use would probably fall under the purview of TM infringement, but I'll leave that one to the experts.

The catch is, any sort of price that it sells for contingent on traffic (if he's really getting 400+ uv a day) would absolutely be predicated on some sort of deeply questionable use...

MediaHound · Aug 11, 2009

Yes, very serious.
It's not up to us what people do with the domain. It's not up to us to scan the listings for every known trademark and compare all of the global databases of marks with all of the domains that pass through our platform. That is nearly impossible and considering nearly every word is marked in one form or another, its not feasible. One could even ask the mark owner if they can use the mark via license for a commercial purpose. Who is to know what the person who decides to acquire this domain will do with it? There are so many variables here, its not up to us what people do with the domain.

MicroGuy · Aug 11, 2009

MediaHound said:
Yes, very serious.
It's not up to us what people do with the domain. It's not up to us to scan the listings for every known trademark and compare all of the global databases of marks with all of the domains that pass through our platform. That is nearly impossible and considering nearly every word is marked in one form or another, its not feasible. One could even ask the mark owner if they can use the mark via license for a commercial purpose. Who is to know what the person who decides to acquire this domain will do with it? There are so many variables here, its not up to us what people do with the domain.

Perhaps not, but I do think that novice domain investors and end-users deserve some type of warning on a domain this blatant.

MediaHound · Aug 11, 2009

We draw the line before that point. For the same purposes stated, we cannot pick and choose.

iowadawg · Aug 11, 2009

Paypal could also go the UDRP route on both the domain of the OP, but all domains with paypal in them.

Though that is really a crapshoot nowadays.

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MicroGuy · Aug 11, 2009

MediaHound said:
We draw the line before that point. For the same purposes stated, we cannot pick and choose.

In that case I guess you would permit namepros.org or viagra.cc. Glad to know this information. Good luck.

MediaHound · Aug 11, 2009

Correct, we don't know what people will do with those domains, if they have had, or plan to have, sites that are legitimate use.

BizBot · Aug 11, 2009

If anybody has doubts just visit the website. It says:

PaypalDeposit.com Enables You To...

Convert your paypal balance to cash! No monthly withdrawal limits.

dodguy - You should take down the website and this name should be deleted. It has ZERO value and is not worth the trouble. You could easily get sued for up to $100,000. A disclaimer is not going to protect you.

Bido should remove the name for sale. This is not a consumer complaint site, it is a TM infringement.

MicroGuy · Aug 11, 2009

Nice graphics: http://www.microguy.net/images/deposit.png

bmugford · Aug 11, 2009

You can say what you want to defend this. To me allowing a domain like this on BIDO kind of cheapens their reputation.

Brad

Larry Fling · Aug 11, 2009

If you do keep this site up.. PLEASE check your spelling mistakes.. This will definitely ruin your business plans..

-Adam- · Aug 11, 2009

I agree with the TM issues altogether with this name. Grace delete and try again.

barefoottech · Aug 11, 2009

TM Hassles are not worth it
Plus Mediahound how would like it if someone
Registered BIDOAuctions.com or BIDOSucks.com?
Would they be OK to list on BIDO.com ?

hrethel · Aug 11, 2009

The UDRP clearly states that attempting to sell a domain that is likely to be confused for a registered trademark is sign of bad faith, which is one of the major requirements to prove in any dispute. The fact that "PayPal" is not anywhere near a generic or common term outside of the TM gives further fuel to the fire. I'm frankly surprised you got away with it for this long.

phantom4444 · Aug 11, 2009

A world of pain awaits IMHO

Get rid asap

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