.co .CO - The Discussion, Showcase and Sales Report Thread

Some more data:

I compiled the top 100 list of name servers used by .co domains.
I am too lazy and don't have enough time to comment thoroughly on it but just one remark: most domain names have two name servers that typically go in pair, for example NS68.DOMAINCONTROL.COM. + NS67.DOMAINCONTROL.COM.
In this example you can see the figures almost match. Sometimes people mix different name servers, which can lead to inconsistent resolution.
Basically that means 40K .co domains would be using the NS67/68.DOMAINCONTROL.COM pair.
Then 30968/30969 domains using NS55/56 etc.
As you can see, a lot of .co domains are using Godaddy DNS, as outlined in a previous analysis. If I remember well more than a third of all registered .co domains were pointing to Godaddy nameservers.

That doesn't mean all those domains resolve to Godaddy parking pages, because some people host the DNS at their registrar and set their own A/MX records etc from there. A more accurate breakdown could be achieved by resolving each domain to IP (A) addresses.
Nonetheless I assume most of those domains are effectively parked and idle.

If you just consider the domains on Godaddy nameservers it looks like they might account for 50% of .co volume (but I am bit tired now).

This might highlight a huge pattern of non-development in the TLD.

sdsinc said:

If you just consider the domains on Godaddy nameservers it looks like they might account for 50% of .co volume (but I am bit tired now).

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The same holding/lander pattern is visible in .mobi sTLD.

This might highlight a huge pattern of non-development in the TLD.

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It does. Godaddy's PPC lander appears as a redirect but it requires analysis of the redirect to determine the parking pattern. The firm that COInternet uses for its usage numerology just claims it is a generic redirect. This allows COInternet to obscure the development deficit in the ccTLD.

Regards...jmcc

There is one important thing I forgot: I don't know if websites hosted at Godaddy also use the same sets of *.DOMAINCONTROL.COM nameservers. Then it means a good number of domains may actually be developed, and not just parked.

sdsinc said:

There is one important thing I forgot: I don't know if websites hosted at Godaddy also use the same sets of *.DOMAINCONTROL.COM nameservers.

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Yes, they can and do use those nameservers. (unless the website owner prefers private ns, but that's another topic)

sdsinc said:

There is one important thing I forgot: I don't know if websites hosted at Godaddy also use the same sets of *.DOMAINCONTROL.COM nameservers. Then it means a good number of domains may actually be developed, and not just parked.

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Exactly, GoDaddy-hosted websites use *.DOMAINCONTROL.COM nameservers.

For example, ElliotsBlog.com is currently using NS07.DOMAINCONTROL.COM and NS08.DOMAINCONTROL.COM.

BTW, recent Sedo sales include:

cinema.co 10,000 EUR
need.co 5,000 USD
esl.co 3,000 EUR
dmz.co 1,250 USD

One thing I've been noticing is that you always have a minimum of 3-4 .CO sales in the $xxx-$x,xxx reported every week by Sedo.

No new re the *.DOMAINCONTROL.COM nameservers , it is listed as nameservers for 34 million domains , 24 million .coms !!

http://www.dailychanges.com/domaincontrol.com/

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Was looking at yesterdays list , here is some of the .com deleted names lol , no .com is not speculative :


0349quan.com
0350quan.com
0352q.com
0352quan.com
0353q.com
0353quan.com
0354q.com
0354quan.com
0355q.com
0355quan.com
0356q.com
0356quan.com
0357q.com
0357quan.com
0358q.com
0358quan.com
0359quan.com
038caffe.com
0515tuan.com
0570wz.com
0576by.net
0577dm.com
0577jobhotel.com

sdsinc said:

There is one important thing I forgot: I don't know if websites hosted at Godaddy also use the same sets of *.DOMAINCONTROL.COM nameservers. Then it means a good number of domains may actually be developed, and not just parked.

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They are not. I think I did a breakdown of web usage by hoster earlier this year. I'll dig it out. But from what I remember, a high percentage of Godaddy hosted .co websites were PPC parked on Godaddy's PPC lander page.

Regards...jmcc

.CO (and other "brandable" ccTLDs) featured in a Inc.com article.

They are exaggerating things a little bit.
Brandables and alternative extensions have always been around.
But you won't see a lot of really major sites on alternative extensions, with the exception of .tv perhaps.

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They are exaggerating things a little bit.
Brandables and alternative extensions have always been around.
But you won't see a lot of really major sites on alternative extensions, with the exception of .tv perhaps.

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It's a continuous marketing to get domainer's blood pump up. and drain the wallet

I./ There's something that people forget in comparison with .COM,
and that's that the PRICE of a .CO-renewal (and also of .TV-renewal, and also, but at a lower pricelevel .MOBI) is much higher then new registrations of these extensions.
This has as consequence that some people drop their .CO-domains, and buy them back when they come available again (if they can).

If the .CO and .TV-registries would make the renewalprice the same as the new-registrationprice, a lot more people with CO- or TV-domains would renew.
Now several are dropping part of their co-domains, and try to catch them back or reregister much cheaper,a month or so later (however with the risk they loose their domain and the domain is catched by somebody else).

CO would be a much greater success if the RENEWALPRICING wouldn't be as high as it is now. (And at a lot of registrars even the new-registrations are expensive-anyhow more expensive then .COM) and +25 USD or even +30 or 40 USD for .CO and some much MORE for .TV).

I think these registries (CO, TV and in a lower pricecategory .MOBI) make a big mistake with their high renewalprices in comparison with .com.

The reason is probably that they want quick profit. But in the long term they would be better with lower renewalprices, because they wouldn't loose lots of customers because of high renewalprices.

What do you girls and guys think about this ?

Kind regards to all of you !
Steven

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II/AND there's something ELSE IMPORTANT =

We should also investigate the evolution (over months) of the Google-results with the search " site:.co " .
I see that this gives. 269.000.000 results in Google today
(You can compare with other extentions, by changing the extension in the search).

In the results I found the following website (not mine) = www.ikikisilikoyunlar.co/ (language changeable in Spansih and English) Now = if you put that in a stats-searcher, you find that it is not doing badly at all !

And what about = www.peterboroughpanthers.co ? It's british, but the co.uk extention shows a for sale page, and .co is the main page ! Also interesting stats.

surprise said:

Thanks not good to hear this as i am excited about domaining , anyway i got this .co domain lastnight from godaddy , then i noticed it is auctioned by someone else !!! godaddy team is looking into this weird issue , now i'm thinking i hope they give him the domain and refund me back i am starting to have second thoughts about the domain lol , i came up with other ideas tonight ....

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Keep those ideas flowing brother. I like to listen to my internal voice and ride the stream of love. Resistance to the current will only cause you struggle and effort. Good luck and thanks for being you!

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My first name is available in Co or cc only. I am inclined to get it in the Co extension. What do you think?

arend said:

My first name is available in Co or cc only. I am inclined to get it in the Co extension. What do you think?

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.co

surprise said:

oh my god

so 1.3 million domains in .co is speculative and gambling against the casino , but the 100 million crappy names in .com is business and professional domaining ...:hehe:

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Yes it is 100% speculative because 90% of those 1.3 million regges are from something called domain addiction. Something that seems very prevalent these days.

Or in other words, people just dreaming of big pay days from names that could never be afforded in the .com.

What do you think would happpen if a completely useless extension like .dump or something became availiable tommorrow for a low reg fee cost?

10 to 1 it would be a feedy frenzy of worthless and useless regges and another $hit load of money down the drain.

History always repeats itself.


If you build it they will come!!

It seems that alot of people dont realize that .co stands for the country of Colombia so Spanish words seem to make alot more sense to me to reg.

.co also is a very cheap option to get a decent domain since .coms r all taken so many businesses r turning to. Obviously it also it looks like the shortened version of word company which makes sense to many people to use for a business.

Dont listen to the naysayers on .co folks. Name .com now lists .co under .com & above .net when you reg domains, so the demand & the potential to profit is not a figment of the industries imagination.

.co will keep growing & with that growth comes opportunity. I for one will be investing in it as it certainly has alot more potential than whatever else there is available today.
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Blitz said:

.co

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obvioulsy .co

READ the domain news daily & u will c its the #1 option for domainers to be involved in today. What else is there?? Why wait for all the tlds to come when .co is open to u now to take advantage of?

:tu:

VisionEdger said:

Dont listen to the naysayers on .co folks. Name .com now lists .co under .com & above .net when you reg domains

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And Godaddy lists .info above .net, and .mobi above .us, .tv, and .ca.

Where an extension is listed at a registar has nothing to do with the value or potential of it.

No offence at all, but this is the type of thinking that digs the domain hole deeper and deeper and ultimatley leading to wasted $$$$.

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What do you think would happen if a completely useless extension like .dump or something became available tomorrow for a low reg fee cost?

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It would get it's very own NamePros thread and have tons of posts and passionate supporters? I can hear the arguments now, "Perfect extension for the sanitation industry", and "I can't believe trashed.dump was still available", and "I just registered garbages.dump...what do you guys think?"

njsurfer77 said:

And Godaddy lists .info above .net, and .mobi above .us, .tv, and .ca.

Where an extension is listed at a registar has nothing to do with the value or potential of it.

No offence at all, but this is the type of thinking that digs the domain hole deeper and deeper and ultimatley leading to wasted $$$$.

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no offense mate as it was simply AN OBSERVATION of how .co is being marketed now, its not a way of thinkIng! plus .name only recently moved .co position under .com so was it a calculated effort on their part to do so ???

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no offense mate as it was AN OBSERVATION of how .co is being marketed , its not a way of thinkIng!

But i still believe if u r going to BLOW your $ in domaining .co is as good a place as any.

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U have to keep in mind that domainers r opportunists & with that comes speculation or some would say its simply gambling with words.

.co is simply another area to bet on & when the next dot game comes along those bets will change to the newest game in town. Its like any business when new products come along, someone has to take a risk

if u bet .co or not u will be betting on something if u r in this business so u can say what u want about .co or .net or .tv etc etc etc. someone somewhere will bet on it so why waste time berating it ?

MicroGuy said:

Keep those ideas flowing brother. I like to listen to my internal voice and ride the stream of love. Resistance to the current will only cause you struggle and effort. Good luck and thanks for being you!

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what current ? , i only have one .co domain , i just wanted to show some of the commentators here that the dreaming and hoping is not a .co situation , it is in .com as well but in .com the dreaming is much worse check the stupid .com domain names that drop everyday , huge bubble worth nothing not even the reg fee 105 Million domains in the .com extension , it is really sad , the .co yes it is speculative i didnt argue about that , but it is funny to read the bashing about the 1.3 Million .co domains when there is huge money going down the drain every year in the worthless 100 M .coms , it is all hoping and dreaming .
Goodluck in your .com bubble matey u r late ! :sold:

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njsurfer77 said:

Yes it is 100% speculative because 90% of those 1.3 million regges are from something called domain addiction. Something that seems very prevalent these days.

Or in other words, people just dreaming of big pay days from names that could never be afforded in the .com.

What do you think would happpen if a completely useless extension like .dump or something became availiable tommorrow for a low reg fee cost?

10 to 1 it would be a feedy frenzy of worthless and useless regges and another $hit load of money down the drain.

History always repeats itself.


If you build it they will come!!

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Ok so , you see the irony ,i said it is speculative 1 million times , now what about the 100 million .coms ? this is not speculation ? all these weird 3-4 words combinations .com domain names " i want to sell to an end user for 80$ " are genuine and not speculative ? , wake up guys it is all speculative , just watch the .com drop list and you could come up with a sitcom out of it ...

surprise said:

... i just wanted to show some of the commentators here that the dreaming and hoping is not a .co situation , it is in .com as well but in .com the dreaming is much worse check the stupid .com domain names that drop everyday , huge bubble worth nothing not even the reg fee 105 Million domains in the .com extension , it is really sad , the .co yes it is speculative i didnt argue about that , but it is funny to read the bashing about the 1.3 Million .co domains when there is huge money going down the drain every year in the worthless 100 M .coms , it is all hoping and dreaming ....

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I don't know from where you infer that members here are approving 105 million registrations of .com's. This is .co thread and people will naturally talk about .co and its flaws.

If you really want to know the honest opinion of the members about .com, then visit Appraisal section. You will be amazed to learn that vast majority of them are worthless or reg fee. Make no mistake, most of them are .com's. You will certainly come across the catchphrase of MG "grace delete" if you care to read older posts in the above section; unfortunately he is not seen much active nowadays.

To sum up when .com is mentioned in other threads, it's for the comparison between an established extension and a newly born extension high jacked by speculators, unknown to the end users.

surprise said:

now what about the 100 million .coms ? this is not speculation ? all these weird 3-4 words combinations .com domain names " i want to sell to an end user for 80$ " are genuine and not speculative ? , wake up guys it is all speculative , just watch the .com drop list and you could come up with a sitcom out of it ...

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At least .com is not just speculation. There is bona fide development and global acceptance. Outside of Colombia, .co is either
a. speculative
b. another alt extension along .biz
But either way, it's not a credible extension. Just another rebranded ccTLD.

sdsinc said:

At least .com is not just speculation. There is bona fide development and global acceptance. Outside of Colombia, .co is either
a. speculative
b. another alt extension along .biz
But either way, it's not a credible extension. Just another rebranded ccTLD.

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I will speculate here , Johname will come now and like/thank your post

as mentioned prior this is a .co thread & with that said I for 1 will be hand regging more .co domains than any other extension since it makes more sense these days.

with a little over 2 million .co's regged that leaves a lot of room to make $ still compared to .com .net .org

Its a gamble as i said prior but heck I LUV to gamble & at $12.99/ .co at name.com why not??

happy .co hunting u all

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