.mobi Is .MOBI a thing of the past?

bfluid said:

Are you serious?

I wouldn't be posting but if you have sink down like that. I might as well finish my job before I leave, and post the sites.

Here is 50 for you. Over and beyond what I promised. Combined with labrocca you have 70 examples of what you already knew existed.

http://avantgo.accountancyage.com/Pocket/
http://m.yp.com/
http://mobile.yellow.ca/
http://mobile.ups.com/
http://wap.tnt.com
http://www.thestreet.com/ag
http://www.planetizen.com/mobile/
http://mobile.itweek.co.uk/
http://wap.ft.com/
http://mobile.fedex.com/
http://www.enterpriseunix.org/mobile/
http://www.enterpriselinux.org/mobile/
http://wap.exchange.de
http://www.arcadeathome.com/mobile.php
http://www.calgarymovies.com/mobile/
http://www.classicscifi.com/small/
http://www.dailycandy.com/m
http://mobile.digitalspy.co.uk/
http://wap.f1tipping.com/
http://www.game-over.net/mobile/
http://www.caerleon.us/hb/mobile
http://wap.webtender.com/
http://www.mp3charts.com/wap/
http://wap.nimini.com/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/wap/
http://www.somewherenear.com/wap
http://mobile.theonion.com/
http://mobile.thrillnetwork.com
http://wap.travelape.com/
http://m.youtube.com
http://wap.afterdawn.com/
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/mobile/
http://www.bargainpda.com/mobile/
http://www.bigbluelinux.org/mobile/
http://m.cnet.com/
http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/mobile/
http://www.dpreview.com/mobile/
http://mobile.digitalspy.co.uk/
http://www.earthv.com/mobile/
http://mobile.f-secure.com
http://www.gadgetaddict.com/mobile/
http://www.ilounge.com/mobile
http://www.linuxhpc.org/mobile/
http://mobile.macrumors.com/
http://www.macnn.com/mobile
http://mobile.msmobiles.com/
http://mobile.my-symbian.com/
http://www.openvms.org/mobile/
http://wap.osnews.com
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/mobile/

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Look at these mess:

www.name.com/mobile
wap.name.com
mobile.name.com
m.name.com

People don't know what to type, it is the marketing nightmare. This is exactly where .mobi shines:

name.mobi

neobodhi said:

That list would be so much cleaner if instead of having three different formats for accessing the mobile site, they all used the same one.

As it is they are using; wap.sitename.com, m.sitename.com, or sitename.com/mobile.

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Man o man .mobi is gona fail now! Especialy an enduser looking for useful info at the time he/she needs it

Does anyone know how to do a slash on there current cellphone? or is that too many keys to be pressed?

By the way if you don't like the .mobi forum here then please leave! Negativity is bad!

Uncle Biff

mobi

Wow , what a heated discussion. Folks should not be that upset if they didn't buy into the innovative new extension named .mobi .
After all there's no mobile web just PC's that dish out websites Right? Wrong!!

I am very thankful that many folks here did not purchase .mobis because it gave me more of a selection of generics to choose from.
I just regged another 15 today.

Do you remember these sayings at all .
I wish I knew that .com would of taken off I would of bought some or bought more.
I should have bought microsoft stock in the 80's.

I can go on and on .I have a few hundred .coms & I love them but have an open mind folks & those of you who trash .mobi remember this saying>

I should have bought .mobi when I could have ...

Youll have a nice night

hedgefund said:

Look at these mess:

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After looking at this list it reminds me of the one main reason ".mobi" clicked for me. Brandability, from a marketing standpoint the .mobi makes a lot of sense.

just trying to "lighten" up the heated discussion...heheheh

sf2010 said:

just trying to "lighten" up the heated discussion...heheheh

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Hehe, nice one. rep added.

thebiffenator said:

What is wrong with this picture here HMMMM how does the enduser know what to type in? It kind of sounds like some moron that loves the Yankees for no reason at all and says that they love the yanks, and there not from NYC, but they are a popular team. :D

.mobi sets standards unlike this (please do your homework) No Offence

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For those sites, don't people just go to the web address they normally visit on PC via cell phone and it automatically detects and redirects to the mobile version url?

For example: typing in bofa.com and foxnews.com on your cell phone automatically redirects to mobile version.

bofa.com goes to https://www.bankofamerica.com/mobile/
foxnews.com goes to http://wap.foxnews.proteus.com/

(bofa.mobi goes to https://www.bankofamerica.com/mobile/ & foxnews.mobi goes to http://wap.foxnews.proteus.com/)

Essentially, all you have to know is the URL you visit via PC, and the big companies (not all) with mobile web will automatically redirect accordingly as to avoid confusion.

bfluid said:

Are you serious?

I wouldn't be posting but if you have sink down like that. I might as well finish my job before I leave, and post the sites.

Here is 50 for you. Over and beyond what I promised. Combined with labrocca you have 70 examples of what you already knew existed.

http://avantgo.accountancyage.com/Pocket/
http://m.yp.com/........http://www.openvms.org/mobile/
http://wap.osnews.com
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/mobile/

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They only thing your feable list shows, is that all these 'various' urls, is just plain stupid and confusing to the average user. Unless of course they'll have you and Labrocca handy 24/7 to check and find the right one!!

Ok, now let's try a new 4 mobi's for you -
Priceline.mobi, Amtrak.mobi, BMW.mobi, StateFarm.mobi

we'll be waiting...

mrdomainman said:

For those sites, don't people just go to the web address they normally visit on PC via cell phone and it automatically detects and redirects to the mobile version url?

For example: typing in bofa.com and foxnews.com on your cell phone automatically redirects to mobile version.

bofa.com goes to https://www.bankofamerica.com/mobile/
foxnews.com goes to http://wap.foxnews.proteus.com/

(bofa.mobi goes to https://www.bankofamerica.com/mobile/ & foxnews.mobi goes to http://wap.foxnews.proteus.com/)

Essentially, all you have to know is the URL you visit via PC, and the big companies (not all) with mobile web will automatically redirect accordingly as to avoid confusion.

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check out BOFA.com on your phone and let us know of the results. then try BOFA.mobi, see if it's any different. Also try ESPN.com and ESPN.mobi on your phone. Also Weather.com and weather.mobi

thebiffenator said:

check out BOFA.com on your phone and let us know of the results. then try BOFA.mobi, see if it's any different. Also try ESPN.com and ESPN.mobi on your phone. Also Weather.com and weather.mobi

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Hi thebiffenator,
I'm using mTLD emulator to test.
My current phone displays full website.

BOFA.com and BOFA.mobi on mTLD emulator redirects to same site
ESPN.com and ESPN.mobi on mTLD emulator redirects to same site
Weather.com doesn't load on mTLD emulator while weather.mobi does

mrdomainman said:

My current phone displays full website.

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That is one of the issues with redirects. Some phones will be redirected some won't. The other problem is the user might not want to be redirected.

mrdomainman said:

Hi thebiffenator,
I'm using mTLD emulator to test.
My current phone displays full website.

BOFA.com and BOFA.mobi on mTLD emulator redirects to same site
ESPN.com and ESPN.mobi on mTLD emulator redirects to same site
Weather.com doesn't load on mTLD emulator while weather.mobi does

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try using a regular cell phone to test, it may be more accurate with dowload time ect...any way off to bed see you all later

I notice some of my sites won't bring up on the emulator too, but on my 8300 LG it works.

Take care all

And no offence to anyone, its the mobile market now and .mobi is in the middle (lets keep this a peacefull thread)

Mobile web is here to stay!

sf2010 said:

just trying to "lighten" up the heated discussion...heheheh

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Good one! The viking is carrying the wrong sword though.... LOL

Hey, Biffenator

Watch those remarks about the Yanlees and morons from New York City, I resemble that remark.

Okay, I am off to the Stadium.

Doc

hedgefund said:

Look at these mess:

www.name.com/mobile
wap.name.com
mobile.name.com
m.name.com

People don't know what to type, it is the marketing nightmare. This is exactly where .mobi shines:

name.mobi

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And you think adding .mobi to the mix helps?

they're not labrocca, just those who have no life and like to go into threads of extensions they despise get that feeling, because they are 'alone'.

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Stooping to a personal attack now? You can dismiss what I say if you want I don't really care. I will continue stating my opinion and whatever facts I find about mobi. If you don't like my opinion or the facts add me to your ignore.

And you have it wrong about "despise"...I just registered 2 mobi's last week and even starting to develop them. I am a realist. I neither worship nor hate an "extension". It's a domain choice one that I feel for the most part isn't worth very much. I also do not believe those who have heavily invested into the extension will be happy with their portfolio in the coming years. actual topic subject matter

Pity that whenever there is an honest discussion about mobi it normally boils down to personal attacks made on those wishing to discuss the extension. I shouldn't have to be forced to paint a rosy picture to state my opinion without a personal attack on my character.

You have a nice day. I will find another thread to be "alone" in.

hedgefund said:

Look at these mess:

www.name.com/mobile
wap.name.com
mobile.name.com
m.name.com

People don't know what to type, it is the marketing nightmare. This is exactly where .mobi shines...

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I disagree. People still won't know what to type. All .mobi did was add another option (in a way, making the problem worse).

This is where .MOBI really shines:

neobodhi said:

Brandability, from a marketing standpoint the .mobi makes a lot of sense.

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The TLD has built-in marketing. When you see example.mobi, you know it's a site that works on your mobile. That's what makes it a viable choice for mobile-centric sites.

.MOBI will not be able to replace all others TLDs in the mobile space. That would be like trying to get all informational sites to use .info names. Not going to happen.

binaryman said:

Every so often someone comes along with the same old tired questions and rhetoric....sigh..how boring.

"So then what about .mobi? Is it a think of the past? Are sales going to start rolling off when people realize there is nothing special about .mobi? Just some thoughts and opinions of mine. Thanks for listening, and I encourage your feedback (I really don't know that much about .mobi)."

Why do you want to know? There's enough posts here to come to your own conclusions. I encourage you to read them instead of asking silly questions. If you dont believe that's fine with me.

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Happy now Mike? I knew it was going to come to this again and everyone as usual jumped in boots and all into the same old trap. Since the inception of .mobi this forum has continiously had threads like this. Everyone has complained about it and some have left the forum and threads have been locked and some have been banned yet you managed to start off another flame war. I would have thought that most here would have been wise enough by now to just ignore threads as these and not participate yet it seems the weakness of human nature again prevails. Oh well..ho-hum..yawn.

I find it amusing that me and labrocca have been chewed up about our OPINIONS, not absolute cold hard facts.... just what we have observed.

But -RJ- has yet to be touched. :D

Good Times :hehe:

Response moved to a separate thread.

You can view it here: http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?p=2729672#post2729672

bfluid said:

I find it amusing that me and labrocca have been chewed up about our OPINIONS, not absolute cold hard facts.... just what we have observed.

But -RJ- has yet to be touched. :D

Good Times :hehe:

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Because -RJ- are stating the facts and sound OPINIONS, but you guys are not.

bfluid said:

I find it amusing that me and labrocca have been chewed up about our OPINIONS, not absolute cold hard facts.... just what we have observed.

But -RJ- has yet to be touched. :D

Good Times :hehe:

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because RJ's opinion seems reasonable and balanced...its not that people are scared to respond just because he owns the forum, if thats what you're trying to say.

a lot of people seem like they just want to debate anything to have some sort of strong opinion about a topic they really know very little about...its fashionable to take a strong stance on something... but hey thats life, and happens with lots more topics than just domain names.

bfluid said:

But -RJ- has yet to be touched. :D

Good Times :hehe:

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RJ has a developed mobi - namepros.mobi, and he makes sense when he posts. All this fighting is pointless imho.

Hey. I'm sorry I may have got a little carried away with my comments. I didn't come in here meaning to start a fight. But I guess thats what happens when heads bash lol. I have nothing against .mobi. I just don't see it as a wise investment. If you want to invest in it, then go ahead and do so. You might see something that I do not currently see.

Its kind of hard to retract smart aleck quotes I made when they have been quoted already. :D

Anyways I just wanted to apologize for my comments.

Oh and before I leave... .MOBI SUCKS!!!
























Just joking lol. Man, I got you good. :D

This forum was obviously made for discussion not fights.

bfluid said:

Hey. I'm sorry I may have got a little carried away with my comments. I didn't come in here meaning to start a fight. But I guess thats what happens when heads bash lol. I have nothing against .mobi. I just don't see it as a wise investment. If you want to invest in it, then go ahead and do so. You might see something that I do not currently see.

Its kind of hard to retract smart aleck quotes I made when they have been quoted already. :D

Anyways I just wanted to apologize for my comments.

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And for those like this, that can step back and realize their postings are more about 'the heat of the moment', and not actual relevence to the subject, Reps are deserved. So, a rep to you bfluid for your candor and admission. :tu:

labrocca said:

You want some truth...here ya go.

http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?cc=US&ts_mode=country&lang=none

The top 15 (all I tried) alexa sites from USA...NONE use mobi. Some redirect to an mdot version and others to a /mobile. But NONE...not one..uses their mobi. Some don't even own their mobi version. A few don't even resolve.

My favorite...MSN and LIVE. Wasn't Microsoft a mTLD "backer"? lol

Your handful of companies convinced to use a mobi doesn't amount for much in the grand scheme of things.

If someone wants to waste more time...go through the rest of the Alexa top 100 and see how many use a mobi.

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As I understand alexa, they get their ranking info from users who have an alexa toolbar installed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but how many mobiles have this? Seems to me Alexa rankings for .mobi sites have no way of being anywhere near accurate.

Good to see you're developing a site Jesse. Best of luck. You're helping us all! Looking forward to checking it out.

My measly two cents on the subject has not changed much over the past 18 months.
.mobi is simply a logical choice for developers who want a mobile presence. It's not a "magic mobile bean" or get rich quick tld. It can be, but it's the exception rather than the rule. The mobi ecosystem is growing daily, but it's not near ready for mass market eyes. There's not much sense in promoting a tld to the general public when there are still huge gaps of missing (or parked) content. The quickest death of .mobi would be a huge marketing push for everyone to check out mobi sites on their phones now. WAY too many lead to parked, empy or non-compliant sites that will lead the end user to say "what's the point?" This could take several more years until we're ready for this push. Content takes time.

We're all impatient and want to see returns on our investments. Those who bail out early over the insecurity that this "new concept" domain brings or don't believe at all might regret their decision. Or they might not. Everyone has a different outlook and strategy. Some investors only buy blue chip stocks that have a long standing history of preforming well. Others love the volatile penny stocks or IPO's and the potential of high returns they can bring. Guess what? These different investors question each others decisions just like we do here. Some more passionately than others. Some people can't look ahead any further than their nose. Others may tend to be better at looking towards the future. We see these different opinions daily in this forum.

I don't know many facts other than my own tiny mobile space that I have privy to. All I can say is, 95% of my mobi sites traffic rose again this month. Some exponentially, but most steady.

Everyone here have different reasons they feel are important for success. I'm pleased with my ever increasing traffic to my mobi sites. I will continue to focus on developing sites I believe will have a mobile demand for, as I have seen firsthand how well this works.

If others take this same route, mobi will thrive very quickly. If they don't, it will be a very long road. Sure, current active sites who choose to use a .mobi will help, but the real future of success lies in our hands. Sitting on a hoard of names and waiting for others to develop will certainly create a drag effect. Too bad so many take this route. Basically, it's domaining 101. Buy, park and hold. Domaining 101 will not work with .mobi. Maybe in 10-15 years, it will, but for now, you have to put some effort in on your end. And to those who have the "I wish I could but I don't know how" excuse...that's rubbish. A simple informational mobisitegalore site is 100 times better than a parked page.

But....in the end, no matter how things shake out..I'll still have my sites and the traffic they bring. One thing many seem to pass over is the cross-over benefit mobi sites bring. A properly developed .mobi site will not only work well on any mobile, but it will also work on a PC.
Can't say that about all .com sites...