PARKED.COM - Official Thread!

[ZOX]

Hi,

Welcome to the OFFICIAL PARKED.COM thread!

 

[Seabass]

if someone type a word/phrase at google search box and klik the tab "I'm feeling lucky" , is that considered as type-in traffic or search engine traffic?

Seach engine only.

Only if they type it into the address bar do I consider it a type-in, as would most domainers. Some metrics include bookmarks as type-ins, but that seems wrong to include those as direct type-in uniques.

xxfireflyxx,
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So, I still don't quite understand how a "type-in" gets any significant traffic without any kind of promotion or PPC advertising.

Here is what you are missing - and it is very easy to miss b/c it is small, and thus is why there is such a big opportunity : There really is no such thing as significant traffic on most generics. But, if you collect enough of them they stack up. And, unlike expired traffic buyers, it does not leave you as easily. Collecting a boatload is key.

lucky...I'm a noob (about 8 months now), so typein's are pretty much history unless I want to take out a loan

You can still do this without a loan - especially if you are willing to call some domain owners.

I think I read Donny saying that Computer /com gets 1,000 uniques a day. That is kinda' paltry for such a mammoth domain in such a big world, right? But every one of those uniques are pure gold, never leaving parked, month in and month out.

Just like Water,com or Games,com might get type-ins, so do lesser domains like CamoSeatCover,com or GoldFishPond,com or NYCommunityCollege,com, etc..... if you find enough of those then you are in biz. These long-tail domains just mentioned usually make more per click than the top category-killer domains, so big opportunity there. But it is tough. It takes hours and hours every single day, non-stop. Sacrificing time with loved ones, relaxing time, anything. The domains must come first if you want to build something worthwhile - IMO. And usually you are fighting for a small amount of uniques, but those are the golden domains.

I know that many expired traffic domain buyers make a lot of money, and some make more than the method I am suggesting below, but after awhile there will be more domain buyers competing for expired traffic and when the old expired traffic domains bought loose their traffic those guys will have to pay more to keep playing. Lower traffic generics are where it is at b/c the traffic will be there, hopefully forever b/c of the mindshare connection it has with the public.

My thoughts are to simply forget expired traffic domains b/c that traffic will die one day - when who knows, but it will die. Buy only generic domains that have "mindshare", meaning have you ever heard of DogWear,com, or would you have ever typed it? Probably not. Nice brandable name, though. Type-in traffic on this? None to little, probably. So you have to wait for your buyer to show up if you are not actively selling it, and at $7.38 a year per domain, if it does not make any money then that is $7.38 you must sacrifice from a profitable domain. If you get too many dogs like this in your portfolio then you have a vampire effect on your profits from you profitable domains.

So, here is what I do. I try my hardest to buy only domains that have never had a history of development in any form, meaning you see a domain dropping or unused and you buy it b/c you see in Archive,org that it only had a generic Netsol or Godaddy page, etc... standard "registrar parked page" showing. Once you find that, you go to Google and see how many docs match the domain. If you only find domain scouring bots trying to index it, that is a good clue. You don't want it indexed as a site ever. Then, your next step is to check the Whois. If it has Domains By Proxy or Whois Protection, whatever, then it may have already been tested by another domainer and that can be a negative sign. But, if the domain shows it's owner, then look at DomainTools' stat that shows how many other domains the owner owns. If only owns one or two - that's ideal, b/c he is not not an expert (a domainer!). Next step is to use whatever tool you want out there to try and determine the bid - I use NetSpy, which keys off of Google. It's not perfect, but it helps define that market. Next you have to determine what you will pay, and that is determined by how long you think it will take to recoup that amount and move forward from there. At this point you either bid in the auction (this takes a guess on the traffic based on experience, or other complicated methods) or call the owner to see if you can test the traffic for a fee for a month and then offer a buyout at the end of the month. If the traffic is good, you make the buy.

There are several other metrics I use, but if you use these, you can get burnt still, especially in auctions, but more often than not you will have pure traffic that will not drop b/c it was never influenced to have higher traffic.

So to recap what I do:

1. Domain never used (see above)
2. Domain doesn't show as being truly indexed in Google as a site
3. Domain Whois does not show owner as owning lots of domains (domainer!)
4. Determine advertiser's bid prices.
5. Bid for domain or test traffic, then buy

goodkarmaco's suggestions are really good too, I have just found it a bit harder than it used to be, but it still works. I used to do more things like that until I found this system. I killed 'em dead on blog domains when the word "blog" was brand-spanking new - like a two months old or so. Trends/events/happenings can be a good source of domains, but you have to be very careful. I have about 30 primo blog domains by using goodkarmaco's idea, but I also seemed to have lost my ass on "Vlog" domains, which I still own a lot of.

This is more than an answer than you asked for, but I was hoping it would help you or whoever who might be feeling down about the arbitrage b/c the gold is still in those hills.

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[goodkarmaco]

Gold is where you find it.

Seabass

you know the ropes, I can feel the pain.

I like your new way of digging and may incorporate some aspects of it in my stragety, thks for sharing. This is valuble stuff not normally found in posts.


Its very hard work digging for gold. Thing is once you find a streak, like you did with blogs you can really hit pay dirt and fill the poke bag.

For ex, when I did some research about the texas toll booth name and found texastollbooth.com was avail, I thought ok, not bad, but a three worder. Oh well, if its a type in it will be money coming in like clock work as they don't generally open a toll booth for a month or year, they are almost like taxes, forever collecting.

Then I kept hearing this phrase in my head, texastolls, texastolls texastolls, lol texas tolls where did I hear that phrase before? Oh yeah texas tolls is a very popular phrase. I thought yes, go ahead type it in the who is, don't be lazy you never know. I have got some nice gems by typing names in who is that I was sure would have been regged before.

I about pissed in my pants when back came these words, "texastolls.com" is availble That was a couple months ago when I regged it.

I am telling everyone this as a fact, there are many names worth a pocket of gold sitting there wedged in the black space waiting to fall into your hands.

I have a question, how many clicks can a name like texastolls.com payout in the next 10 or 20 years. I don't know, but I can't wait to find out.

I cannot for the life of me figure how this one never got regged before me. Yup out spit the who is and it said "texastolls.com" was mine. I get tons of names like this. Pretty soon my parking accts will be paying me back for all my hard work.

Nothing is easy, it does get easier though, keep at it until you get so good at it you can repeat the formula over and over. Its still going to be hard work. It takes so much time to research and do all this. What keeps a person motivated?

The gold is that type ins are not going to be pushed around. You don't have to watch your back. Maybe the big boogie man, Gooflge or Yehaw or ass.cum will sneak up behind you and kick you in the ass.

No sir, that won't happen, when you own the type ins you got the gold.

If you got the gold, you don't need those big players to bring traffic to you and you certainly don't pay them anything. Type ins are the pure gold and who has the gold rules.

texastolls.com, is that a type in? You bet your star spangled banner it is.

Icing on the cake?, how about that name for a blog on patriotism. A good candidate for a brandable name too as it took years for texastolls to become a known phrase and now years later it is easy to remember. That to me spells easy to sell.

So it can be work, but fun too.

What I get out of it is the learning experience branches me out to so many new gold pockets to explore I have to get a big book just to map the names out.

There is a common bit of advice given to folks who recently discovered the love of nugget hunting, "gold is where you find it".

 

[SebastianJu]

Hm, theres the error in reasoning with my regged domainnames. I regged them a week before because of their searchvolumes but got no type-in till now. I had to more clearly think about that google doesnt take part in type-ins...

As far as I understand it now type-ins are only getting the domains that are typed into url like computer.com or so. So every time there has to be the .com or similar to it...

computer or buy a car wouldnt find computer.com or buyacar.com isnt it so?

That makes it more difficult. For my regged domains I think the only solution would be to get them into google isnt it?

Greetings!
Sebastian

 

[packrat]

All I know is that from an initial glance, since arb has stopped, my income has taken a jump upwards. I was closing down more often than not before.

I never did arb. so my income was not affected.

I've also found that without arb that my RPC has gone up. Yes, CTR is way down by at least there's some light at the end of this very long tunnel. I have about 120 domains but only 15 optimized. I'm hoping that once I have
them all optimized and they get indexed that I'll wonder why I ever needed
arbitrage!

 

[sihar07]

Seabass : thanks for your answer.. rep added

 

[ZOX]

I've also found that without arb that my RPC has gone up. I'm hoping that once I have
them all optimized and they get indexed that I'll wonder why I ever needed
arbitrage!

DITTO! :tu:

 

[goodkarmaco]

Its true that the visitor needs to type in the .com after the name for it to be a true type in. Thats how they land on my parked page. Believe me I am small potatoes, but I am going in the right direction. Others are sipping margaritas on cruise ships from their earnings from ppc.

 

[mrizos]

Its true that the visitor needs to type in the .com after the name for it to be a true type in. Thats how they land on my parked page. Believe me I am small potatoes, but I am going in the right direction. Others are sipping margaritas on cruise ships from their earnings from ppc.

I wanna sip margaritas!!!! Well, I have some two word domains that are searched for about 600 times a day (and they are .com's...) so I'll let you guys know how many type in's I get.

Stay Tuned.

 

[Name Trader]

I wanna sip margaritas!!!! Well, I have some two word domains that are searched for about 600 times a day (and they are .com's...) so I'll let you guys know how many type in's I get.

Stay Tuned.

Let us know when you start sipping those margaritas

 

[Varon]

Its true that the visitor needs to type in the .com after the name for it to be a true type in. Thats how they land on my parked page. Believe me I am small potatoes, but I am going in the right direction. Others are sipping margaritas on cruise ships from their earnings from ppc.

Finding the right combination keywords for a type in is a tough task. It needs a whole lot of research. The word "Britney Spears" is searched for an average of 85000 (Wordtracker Predict) times a day on various SE's. But not all heavily searched words are lucky enough to get typed in with the extension. Imo, britneyspears.com must not be getting more than 120 actual type-ins a day. It still gets around 300,000 visitors a month and has an Alexa ranking of 31,826. This traffic is almost entirely from its search engine ranking at #2 for the KW Britney Spears and also from its around 43,000 backlinks.

In short, to get a pure type-in it is more important to "get into the minds" of people that type-in and "understand" what type of keywords actually get typed in. There are some KW's which have high frequency searches, but rarely get typed in. Vice versa there are some keywords which get searched just a thousand times a day but have a high percentage of being typed in with an extension. That understanding is the crucial part. Once you've got that concept right, believe me, you'll have 100's of solid type-in domains.

 

[mrizos]

Finding the right combination keywords for a type in is a tough task. It needs a whole lot of research. The word "Britney Spears" is searched for an average of 85000 (Wordtracker Predict) times a day on various SE's. But not all heavily searched words are lucky enough to get typed in with the extension. Imo, britneyspears.com must not be getting more than 120 actual type-ins a day. It still gets around 300,000 visitors a month and has an Alexa ranking of 31,826. This traffic is almost entirely from its search engine ranking at #2 for the KW Britney Spears and also from its around 43,000 backlinks.

In short, to get a pure type-in it is more important to "get into the minds" of people that type-in and "understand" what type of keywords actually get typed in. There are some KW's which have high frequency searches, but rarely get typed in. Vice versa there are some keywords which get searched just a thousand times a day but have a high percentage of being typed in with an extension. That understanding is the crucial part. Once you've got that concept right, believe me, you'll have 100's of solid type-in domains.

Yeah, that makes sense. I have been thinking about that concept all weekend. I plan on trying/buying about 2 .com's a week. I think domain tasting is pretty much dead, correct?

 

[Varon]

Yeah, that makes sense. I have been thinking about that concept all weekend. I plan on trying/buying about 2 .com's a week. I think domain tasting is pretty much dead, correct?

Can't say much about DT. Well, no harm in buying a name and checking out if it gets type-ins. You have nothing to lose.

 

[cassidy36]

Can't say much about DT. Well, no harm in buying a name and checking out if it gets type-ins. You have nothing to lose.

How about expired domain taffic? Anyone have any good/bad experiences? I took the plunge and dropped $500 on an expired domain on TDNAM, which I'll get hold of next Saturday, I'm not sure if I did the right thing, but I have to try every angle, post arb.

 

[thebutler]

One problem

How about expired domain taffic? Anyone have any good/bad experiences? I took the plunge and dropped $500 on an expired domain on TDNAM, which I'll get hold of next Saturday, I'm not sure if I did the right thing, but I have to try every angle, post arb.

Cassidy, NEVER EVER belief the traffic numbers from TDNAM. Search on this forum and you will find a few threads regarding TDNAM and traffic stats. One figure I remeber from the threads is assume about 10 per cent is the real number. Backlinks can help tell the traffic story if you pick something thats not a true type in domain. I have a few TDNAM names pay for themselves but they were low cost names (low $XX level).

$500 bones is some serious cash so I hope things work out for you.

Yeah, that makes sense. I have been thinking about that concept all weekend. I plan on trying/buying about 2 .com's a week. I think domain tasting is pretty much dead, correct?

Heck after 80 hours if you are not getting traffic on something that is showing good search results drop it. Moniker still allows tasting for 25 cents. Reg it test it and hopefully keep it but if not drop it. Save your $$$ for another try.

 

[Mike]

Heck after 80 hours if you are not getting traffic on something that is showing good search results drop it. Moniker still allows tasting for 25 cents. Reg it test it and hopefully keep it but if not drop it. Save your $$$ for another try.

I couldn't agree more! :tu:

M.

 

[hitchhiker]

How about expired domain taffic? Anyone have any good/bad experiences? I took the plunge and dropped $500 on an expired domain on TDNAM, which I'll get hold of next Saturday, I'm not sure if I did the right thing, but I have to try every angle, post arb.

dont believe in expired traffic unless

1. there is significant backlink
2. you can find the cache of the site on archive.org
3. there is some pagerank

a common practice is to rebuild the site using the cacheon archive.org to ensure the site doesnt drop off the search engine index. Pakring could potentially black list your site if its a high backlink site. . . if you spend $500 on a name that doesnt have true type in potential, parking it is actually the worst thing you can do.

expired domain still represent 50% of my parking income. . . I'm refocusing on it these days . . .

there are a lot of tool you can use to help you do homework on which expired domains to buy . . . use them, use them all . . . some are free some are not . . . just gotta do some trial and error to get a "system" down . . .

 

[larryharlow]

Yahoo people are really stupid. How can they call arbitrage traffic "poor" if PARKED.com has mainly 2 click landers wich means visitors are really interested in content to click ads.

 

[vbigdeli]

Yahoo people are really stupid. How can they call arbitrage traffic "poor" if PARKED.com has mainly 2 click landers wich means visitors are really interested in content to click ads.

Yahoo didn't expect such amount of arb traffc from their "gray market"....

 

[mrizos]

Heck after 80 hours if you are not getting traffic on something that is showing good search results drop it. Moniker still allows tasting for 25 cents. Reg it test it and hopefully keep it but if not drop it. Save your $$$ for another try.

You just saved me some serious cash...I owe you.

 

[cassidy36]

dont believe in expired traffic unless

1. there is significant backlink
2. you can find the cache of the site on archive.org
3. there is some pagerank

a common practice is to rebuild the site using the cacheon archive.org to ensure the site doesnt drop off the search engine index. Pakring could potentially black list your site if its a high backlink site. . . if you spend $500 on a name that doesnt have true type in potential, parking it is actually the worst thing you can do.

expired domain still represent 50% of my parking income. . . I'm refocusing on it these days . . .

there are a lot of tool you can use to help you do homework on which expired domains to buy . . . use them, use them all . . . some are free some are not . . . just gotta do some trial and error to get a "system" down . . .

thebutler, hitchhicker,
Thanks for the info guys... I believe I did do some good research using tools that are out there and I was always suspicious of the stats on TDNAM, though I didn't realize it was that bad, 10% of the number would suck. The biggest draw for me is it has the same name as a popular .net site and I bought the .com name, my thought is even when the back links dry up there will still be people trying to get to the popular .net site and typing .com instead. If I park the site with parked.com and populate it with the content cache on archive.org would that keep it from dropping of the search engine index?

 

[RevGen]

Is parked.com going to keep it's ask feed?

Hello,

My first post here. Hope I'm putting it in the right section.

I've got domains parked at a number of different parking companies.

I was about to sign up for parked.com, mainly because so many people seem quite happy with the results they are getting there.

I'm hesitating to sign up, as I've read some posts that say that the ask feed is going to be cut on March 1st, which is coming up very shortly. Does anyone know if this is true? Has a rep from Parked.com talked about this somewhere?

It would be helpful for me if someone from parked.com commented about this, as I don't want to spend too much time setting things up there, only to find out that this feed will be lost.

I'm pretty new to all this, so I'm wondering what will happen to traffic that gets sent to parked.com if they lose their ask feed?

Which kind of traffic at parked.com goes to ask, and which goes to yahoo?
Is it based on country of origin, or based on keywords, or both?

I'm hoping that if they lose their ask feed, that something else will replace it so revenue doesn't drop. If something is going to replace it, what will it be?

Thanks!

 

[Amma]

thebutler, hitchhicker,
Thanks for the info guys... I believe I did do some good research using tools that are out there and I was always suspicious of the stats on TDNAM, though I didn't realize it was that bad, 10% of the number would suck. The biggest draw for me is it has the same name as a popular .net site and I bought the .com name, my thought is even when the back links dry up there will still be people trying to get to the popular .net site and typing .com instead. If I park the site with parked.com and populate it with the content cache on archive.org would that keep it from dropping of the search engine index?

If the domain is .com and the .net has been developed and the site is popular then no need backlink or PR there must be traffic according to the .net popularity.

 

[gingeman]

Has anyone else ever noticed a strange consistency with parked stats? I have been with them for several months and moved names from several other places. I have never seen a greater daily fluctuation in the number of visitors than 50, and my revenue is nearly always around the same mark too. It isn't that the names are that consistent either, as it is always a varying combination of what names are getting the visitors and clicks. I should also mention there are over 100 names in my account there so this s not just a sample over 1 or 2 names...

Is there a reason for this? My names at other parking companies are much less consistent, some days $2 and 100 visitors, the next $25 and 1000 etc...

Its not that I am complaining, obviously consistency is good, but it does seem a little strange just how consistent my portfolio at parked is...

 

[johname]

Is there a reason for this? My names at other parking companies are much less consistent, some days $2 and 100 visitors, the next $25 and 1000 etc...

Its not that I am complaining, obviously consistency is good, but it does seem a little strange just how consistent my portfolio at parked is...

Its probally that parked does a better job of not counting the ugly bot traffic that other companys may be counting.

 

[cybermonkey]

I have recently decided to optimize all of my domains at Parked. I've added content, pictures, tags, discriptions, etc. However, all I am getting is hits but no cliks. Is there something I am doing wrong?