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Any worthless LLLL.coms ???
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tehforum said:
qxzv is an anti premium and is not worst name. BTW why not qxzy then? V is a very popular letter in acronyms. It is compared to letters N, W, O, H by quality. I consider V as best among semi-premium letters.
The worst name must consist of 2 worst letters and 2 good letters with the most quantity of strokes
I would say something like qzjk.com is really awfull because its unbalanced and uneven Perhaps gqkj.com is even worse 
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uhmm I feel like this is going to a loong thread as soon as Filter joins it
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V is fundamental to true anti-premiums for reasons Filter will elaborate on meticulously when he finds this thread :hehe:
Anti-premiums are actually not the worst LLLL.coms and routinely sell for more than single premiums. Not sure if it's the rarity factor or desirability in other countries. Perhaps a combination of both.
V is fundamental to true anti-premiums for reasons Filter will elaborate on meticulously when he finds this thread :hehe:
Anti-premiums are actually not the worst LLLL.coms and routinely sell for more than single premiums. Not sure if it's the rarity factor or desirability in other countries. Perhaps a combination of both.
italiandragon said:uhmm I feel like this is going to a loong thread as soon as Filter joins it
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Ergo said:qxzv is an anti premium and is not worst name. BTW why not qxzy then? V is a very popular letter in acronyms. It is compared to letters N, W, O, H by quality. I consider V as best among semi-premium letters.
The worst name must consist of 2 worst letters and 2 good letters with the most quantity of strokes
i agree!
I find internal j and q to be the toughies.
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good to see so much of the "wisdom of the anti-premium way" already posted in this thread ...
agree with what ergo said about true "pure" anti-premiums such as qxzy (which are among the rarest of LLLL combinations) - compared to the merely mediocre ... Seriously, does a single "premium letter" in the mix really add significant value in terms of acronym potential? That may be like buying 5 lottery tickets instead of 1 and expecting to actually see a better return on your "investment" for it. Meanwhile, the single non-anti-premium in the mix clashes like a pinstripe jacket over a plaid shirt ... (For some reason 'w' and 'h' and 'k' tend to induce the most cognitive dissonance to my English-language eye ... though these are all relatively low-frequency letters too I think.)
I like the "anti-hero" angle - very nice spin that hadn't occurred to me. The actual term "anti-premium" actually came up in a more apocalyptic context in the last hours of the buyout - a celebration of madness, and perhaps a harbinger of doom ... Before that, I also remember seeing an "all letters are equal" thread in the humor section on DNF ... which I didn't pay much attention to.
As far as investment potential relative to the rest of LLLL universe ... I don't recommend buying anti-premiums - unless you see one you actually like for some reason. (Full disclosure - I'd like to be able to continue buying them cheap over the next year or so ...)
I think at some point (probably a few years from now) they may start to see interest from low-budget newbies (such as myself) and could see prices comparable to CCC.com names (low $xxx minimum) ... Given that there is still a "scarcity premium" even with 46,656 CCC.com (as opposed to just 17,576 LLL.com) ... well, however many "anti-premiums" there actually are (however you want to define anti-premium) - those are going to be all that's left to trade once the rest of the LLLL.com are in the hands of end users rather than resellers.
And - mark my words - there will be end users for the anti-premiums as well. The mythical Dr. Quincy Xavier Zimbalist Jr. has yet to find his way to Sedo to make an offer that can't be refused for QXZJ, but he's out there, somewhere ... I just know it! Seriously, some people just like short domains, and can get creative with acronyms or not even bother - an LLLL address might be used more like a just a short phone number with letters instead of digits.
(I've already found a good "bottom line" use for short domains - since there is a 500 character limit for signatures here on NP - and the links to eBay auctions that I want to put in my sig sometimes are hideously long, adding up to more than 500 characters very quickly ... I just setup some redirects from my LXIQ domain instead - so can now fit many more links to current auctions into my signature, for whatever that's worth.)
Other end-users might be gamers, techies, and other younger types used to TXTNG LOTS LOL + DXNT CARE BOUT VWLS and similar lunatic fringe creative types ... An up-and-coming demographic perhaps. Or maybe not.
Bottom line for me is, if 10 months from now I might still be able to buy something like QXZY (I wish! that one's a gem!) for less than $20 ... and 5 years from now might easily sell it for $200, possibly even quite a bit more ... Well, it may not be a "great" ROI compared to other domains, but still a bit better than most conventional investments. (Calculate $20 plus another $40 for reg fees over 5 years ... So that's 60 in, 200 out = 140 profit - a bit over 200% ROI, works out to about 40% per year. Or if compounded annually, about 25%. For a relatively low risk, no-brainer play - try doing that in the stock market!)
so that's my anti-premium story, and I'm sticking to it!
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good to see so much of the "wisdom of the anti-premium way" already posted in this thread ...
agree with what ergo said about true "pure" anti-premiums such as qxzy (which are among the rarest of LLLL combinations) - compared to the merely mediocre ... Seriously, does a single "premium letter" in the mix really add significant value in terms of acronym potential? That may be like buying 5 lottery tickets instead of 1 and expecting to actually see a better return on your "investment" for it. Meanwhile, the single non-anti-premium in the mix clashes like a pinstripe jacket over a plaid shirt ... (For some reason 'w' and 'h' and 'k' tend to induce the most cognitive dissonance to my English-language eye ... though these are all relatively low-frequency letters too I think.)
I like the "anti-hero" angle - very nice spin that hadn't occurred to me. The actual term "anti-premium" actually came up in a more apocalyptic context in the last hours of the buyout - a celebration of madness, and perhaps a harbinger of doom ... Before that, I also remember seeing an "all letters are equal" thread in the humor section on DNF ... which I didn't pay much attention to.
As far as investment potential relative to the rest of LLLL universe ... I don't recommend buying anti-premiums - unless you see one you actually like for some reason. (Full disclosure - I'd like to be able to continue buying them cheap over the next year or so ...)
I think at some point (probably a few years from now) they may start to see interest from low-budget newbies (such as myself) and could see prices comparable to CCC.com names (low $xxx minimum) ... Given that there is still a "scarcity premium" even with 46,656 CCC.com (as opposed to just 17,576 LLL.com) ... well, however many "anti-premiums" there actually are (however you want to define anti-premium) - those are going to be all that's left to trade once the rest of the LLLL.com are in the hands of end users rather than resellers.
And - mark my words - there will be end users for the anti-premiums as well. The mythical Dr. Quincy Xavier Zimbalist Jr. has yet to find his way to Sedo to make an offer that can't be refused for QXZJ, but he's out there, somewhere ... I just know it! Seriously, some people just like short domains, and can get creative with acronyms or not even bother - an LLLL address might be used more like a just a short phone number with letters instead of digits.
(I've already found a good "bottom line" use for short domains - since there is a 500 character limit for signatures here on NP - and the links to eBay auctions that I want to put in my sig sometimes are hideously long, adding up to more than 500 characters very quickly ... I just setup some redirects from my LXIQ domain instead - so can now fit many more links to current auctions into my signature, for whatever that's worth.)
Other end-users might be gamers, techies, and other younger types used to TXTNG LOTS LOL + DXNT CARE BOUT VWLS and similar lunatic fringe creative types ... An up-and-coming demographic perhaps. Or maybe not.
Bottom line for me is, if 10 months from now I might still be able to buy something like QXZY (I wish! that one's a gem!) for less than $20 ... and 5 years from now might easily sell it for $200, possibly even quite a bit more ... Well, it may not be a "great" ROI compared to other domains, but still a bit better than most conventional investments. (Calculate $20 plus another $40 for reg fees over 5 years ... So that's 60 in, 200 out = 140 profit - a bit over 200% ROI, works out to about 40% per year. Or if compounded annually, about 25%. For a relatively low risk, no-brainer play - try doing that in the stock market!)
so that's my anti-premium story, and I'm sticking to it!
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ipod.com or Anything with a trademark
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filter said::lol:
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good to see so much of the "wisdom of the anti-premium way" already posted in this thread ...
agree with what ergo said about true "pure" anti-premiums such as qxzy (which are among the rarest of LLLL combinations) - compared to the merely mediocre ... Seriously, does a single "premium letter" in the mix really add significant value in terms of acronym potential? That may be like buying 5 lottery tickets instead of 1 and expecting to actually see a better return on your "investment" for it. Meanwhile, the single non-anti-premium in the mix clashes like a pinstripe jacket over a plaid shirt ... (For some reason 'w' and 'h' and 'k' tend to induce the most cognitive dissonance to my English-language eye ... though these are all relatively low-frequency letters too I think.)
I like the "anti-hero" angle - very nice spin that hadn't occurred to me. The actual term "anti-premium" actually came up in a more apocalyptic context in the last hours of the buyout - a celebration of madness, and perhaps a harbinger of doom ... Before that, I also remember seeing an "all letters are equal" thread in the humor section on DNF ... which I didn't pay much attention to.
As far as investment potential relative to the rest of LLLL universe ... I don't recommend buying anti-premiums - unless you see one you actually like for some reason. (Full disclosure - I'd like to be able to continue buying them cheap over the next year or so ...)
I think at some point (probably a few years from now) they may start to see interest from low-budget newbies (such as myself) and could see prices comparable to CCC.com names (low $xxx minimum) ... Given that there is still a "scarcity premium" even with 46,656 CCC.com (as opposed to just 17,576 LLL.com) ... well, however many "anti-premiums" there actually are (however you want to define anti-premium) - those are going to be all that's left to trade once the rest of the LLLL.com are in the hands of end users rather than resellers.
And - mark my words - there will be end users for the anti-premiums as well. The mythical Dr. Quincy Xavier Zimbalist Jr. has yet to find his way to Sedo to make an offer that can't be refused for QXZJ, but he's out there, somewhere ... I just know it! Seriously, some people just like short domains, and can get creative with acronyms or not even bother - an LLLL address might be used more like a just a short phone number with letters instead of digits.
(I've already found a good "bottom line" use for short domains - since there is a 500 character limit for signatures here on NP - and the links to eBay auctions that I want to put in my sig sometimes are hideously long, adding up to more than 500 characters very quickly ... I just setup some redirects from my LXIQ domain instead - so can now fit many more links to current auctions into my signature, for whatever that's worth.)
Other end-users might be gamers, techies, and other younger types used to TXTNG LOTS LOL + DXNT CARE BOUT VWLS and similar lunatic fringe creative types ... An up-and-coming demographic perhaps. Or maybe not.
Bottom line for me is, if 10 months from now I might still be able to buy something like QXZY (I wish! that one's a gem!) for less than $20 ... and 5 years from now might easily sell it for $200, possibly even quite a bit more ... Well, it may not be a "great" ROI compared to other domains, but still a bit better than most conventional investments. (Calculate $20 plus another $40 for reg fees over 5 years ... So that's 60 in, 200 out = 140 profit - a bit over 200% ROI, works out to about 40% per year. Or if compounded annually, about 25%. For a relatively low risk, no-brainer play - try doing that in the stock market!)
so that's my anti-premium story, and I'm sticking to it!
lol - and there it is! :D Phew, that took me a while!
Have to agree with the majority of Filter's comments there.
It is the potential to find end users in China etc that can make these a viable investment.
I am personaly trying to focus on triple/quad premiums because that is the market I understand the best from an end user point of view.
I think anti-premiums will always be 'at the bottom of the pile' but will still increase in value in the same way that anti-premium LLL.com's have.
Back on topic - for me the worst domain would contain at least a 'Q' an 'X' and a 'Z'.
Rich
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Adding on to what filter said earlier about people just generally liking short names..With short names you can always get acronyms for at least two or three of the letters. That could give you something to work with and develop right there. Take stock symbols for example..There is a symbol for just about all 2 letter combinations..There's half the battle right now
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really...they should add the popcorn emoticon here...
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