Email Extractor For Finding End-Users

x11joex11 · Oct 20, 2012

*This is NOT a spam tool*

First, let me say that I'm a software developer and entrepreneur investigating possible products to make for you the domainers. After an initial run of questions, there were at least 3 people that seemed like they might like the following software concept below. If you like it please let me know and if you would be willing to pay the suggested price of $10-$15/month for the tool (or more), and if more based on features, what do you require? This is your chance to add your input into software that can directly help you make more sales and therefore more money.

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Feature set currently suggested by members (I directly am quoting from some of them like Bannen with slight modifications:

The tool will let you put in your domain name or keywords. The tool would then check search engine results, and return some stats for each website that met the selected criteria. It will come back with a list of stats for each site, like how many times your keyword/s were found on the first 10 or 50 sites or whatever. Results for each site could look something like:

(you put in your keywords like 'conan the barbarian' and receive the following info) :

keywords: conan the barbarian

First 20 websites found:

website 1: conanthebarbariannude.com
keyword in metatag keywords for: 8 pages
keyword in title for: 1 page
keyword in description for: 3 pages
keyword in content for: 18 pages

email addresses found: 4
admin (at) conanthebarbariannude.com
(3 others)

email addresses in forms found: 1
redsonja (at) conanthebarbariannude.com

website 2:
etc etc etc

Then another block of stats for the next website etc, that kind of thing. To list those email and keyword stats and have them all compiled clearly would give you as the domainer valuable overview of the strength of a website as a possible buyer/end user of the domain or conanthebarbarian.com if you owned it in this case. I'm thinking this would be a killer tool.

There are some tools that try to scrape email addresses from matching sites, but none (that I've found) that collate that keyword info to show you how well your keywords match with each site found, and collate the emails found on each site. Most such tools only find other domains with your keyword/s in their string, and then mine the whois for an email addy, but a tool like described above would be a strong step further.

Any help is greatly appreciated, if this project looks like it has potential to be profitable, for anyone's help here you can receive a life-time discount on the monthly subscription to this service of up to 5% when it's completed and ready for pre-orders, and up to another 15% if you pre-purchase in advance once the initial sketch & plan is complete and of course approved by you the domainers.

I really love the domain game and I am looking forward to comments and suggestions so I can make this a great tool for you guys! (but only if enough of you guys really want this, so please support this thread if you can).

GeoFan · Oct 20, 2012

Sounds like a very good way to help automate ... identify, target, prioritize some prospective contacts.

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Even if you cannot scrape emails from many sites, you could possibly identify any “Contact Us” or “Contact Me” types of form-pages for manual use.

fm1234 · Oct 20, 2012

As a longtime end user dealer, it's hard for me to see the value of a site-based e-mail extractor as you're describing it. The problem with it is simply that, on the one hand, many sites no long publish e-mail addresses on their site -- they use jQuery or PHP contact forms, and/or publish non-text e-mail addresses (an image with the address on it, or the address is part of a header/footer image that includes contact info etc.) On the other hand, for much the same reason (spam response) many sites that do publish an e-mail address are publishing a catchall, a PR person or other individual who will be largely useless in my quest to find a decision maker.

Basically, those two sides of the same basic problem (site-published e-mails are not the best place to look for contact points, because many sites don't publish the info in the first place, and many of those who do publish information that is useless/without value for my purposes as a domain seller) make the service irrelevant, especially as an ongoing subscription. Sorry if that seems overly harsh -- it just doesn't seem, as described, like a service that would help me or make me more money, and therefore not one in which I'd be interested.

Frank

x11joex11 · Oct 20, 2012

Does anyone else think this tool would be useful? think it would not be useful? If you don't think it would be useful why and what would make it useful so that it is worth paying for?

x11joex11 · Oct 22, 2012

I've gotten some comments from people suggesting a possible way to keep track of your goals for each of the email leads. Does this solve an issue? Are a lot of you having a hard time keeping track of who you have messaged or not and what stage you are in with the potential end-user?

GiftedDomains · Oct 22, 2012

Such softwares and tools are always magnets for spammers.

I prefer to do my research manually and write let say 5 targeted emails to endusers daily instead of using tools and software and write 1000s.

My opinion is that tools like LeadRef etc do more harm (LONG TERM) than they are useful.

Just MY OPINION. sorry

x11joex11 · Oct 22, 2012

That's fine, I like to hear it!

I think you may have misunderstand what the tool does. It does not send out emails to clients nor help you write the message, it helps you find the emails you can write manually to targeted end-users. It would help you target them by seeing if your keyword appears in their webpage and where it appeared so you can decide for yourself if the website was relevant.

If it does not find an email, I can make it link to the form where you can craft your response and/or supply who-is email information.

RaiderGirl · Oct 22, 2012

Is your name by any chance "Patty"?

x11joex11 · Oct 22, 2012

RaiderGirl: I'm probably going to sound dumb for asking, but... who is patty?

Some things I think that would improve the tool are the following:

- Are the potential users that belong to the email spending money on advertising for the keyword?
- Do they own multiple related domains?
- Are the domains developed or parked or redirected etc.

These are all things I could quickly have the tool do if you guys feel it's useful.

GeoFan · Oct 22, 2012

x11joex11 said:
I've gotten some comments from people suggesting a possible way to keep track of your goals for each of the email leads. Does this solve an issue? Are a lot of you having a hard time keeping track of who you have messaged or not and what stage you are in with the potential end-user?

Lead identification ... find the "low-hanging fruit?"

. . . then Prioritize, Contact, Followup and Track results.

There must be some tracking to log notes, next step, contact methods (email, phone, postcard, etc...) and decide who is worth following up with.

Who to approach next? Contact again in a week?

Seems to me that automating some of this could help any domainer who sells to end users.

Edit:

Besides SEARCH ENGINES, there are also many other data sources: industry directories, etc... so there should also be a bulk input method. (and a .CSV file template.)

Scraping a list from any webpage (such as a directory) into a .CSV file for further processing is also a VERY useful tool.

ANYONE who sells directly to "end-users" for any products or services could also use this tool.

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Clustering of related domains via WHOIS info and other factors could also be useful, if the URL is your primary key. How to identify the "prospect?"

Clues: Phone number, address, URL, email address, etc.

It is not an easy problem to solve. Data mining tools are very useful when there is messy data.

Start simple.

Bannen · Oct 23, 2012

I'm going to do the trial version of the software Federer uses, called emailextractorpro, and see how it compares to what we're talking about here. Let you know how it goes

x11joex11 · Oct 23, 2012

Thanks, yeah, I would like to know. Would hate to make this software if there is something out there that already does what you need :P, in which case it's back to the drawing board for another idea, but at least I didn't waste a lot of time in development this time.

Although it does appear that software is only for windows instead of being browser based, so may be something there.

Bannen · Oct 23, 2012

x11joex11 said:
Thanks, yeah, I would like to know. Would hate to make this software if there is something out there that already does what you need :P, in which case it's back to the drawing board for another idea, but at least I didn't waste a lot of time in development this time.

Although it does appear that software is only for windows instead of being browser based, so may be something there.

Also there's room for someone to do it better. There were a few auto appraisal tools around... and then Estibot came out. Love it or hate it, it made its mark and became huge.

I'll be looking at emailextractorpro to see if there's a big enough void to make it worth improving upon with another tool

Bannen · Oct 24, 2012

Norton isn't letting me download emailextractorpro; calls it a Reputation1 threat, which means it isn't considered malware or a virus, but Norton members give it low marks and don't like something it does.

I could turn Norton off and download, but I think I'll leave it unless anyone can shed more light on the extractor and why N doesn't like it. Maybe N doesn't like any extractor program?

x11joex11 · Oct 24, 2012

Unfortunately my research shows so far that the market for this product is not that large actually, I've messaged 100 people and only 4 people were interested in possibly paying. I'm also concerned as more pages switch to php contact forms that extracting emails will get very difficult. That doesn't mean there is not a demand for generating domain leads however. If I were to get 'real contacts' for a domain you were selling I wonder how much these leads would be worth? There would be no guaranteed sale of course, but a person willing to talk about it. This is another angle to take. I'm not sure if there is a domain lead business?

Loko · Oct 24, 2012

x11joex11 said:
- Are the potential users that belong to the email spending money on advertising for the keyword?
- Do they own multiple related domains?
- Are the domains developed or parked or redirected etc.

This would be very useful when it's executable as a custom filter. For example, I do not like to send email to domainers so I would like the program to 'learn' to filter out their email addresses. That still means i will have to go trough the lists manually (as i always do) but this way it might save some time.

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x11joex11 said:
I'm not sure if there is a domain lead business?

I think LeadRefs were close but no service will eliminate having to verify a list manually.

JB Lions · Oct 24, 2012

x11joex11 said:
Unfortunately my research shows so far that the market for this product is not that large actually, I've messaged 100 people and only 4 people were interested in possibly paying. I'm also concerned as more pages switch to php contact forms that extracting emails will get very difficult. That doesn't mean there is not a demand for generating domain leads however. If I were to get 'real contacts' for a domain you were selling I wonder how much these leads would be worth? There would be no guaranteed sale of course, but a person willing to talk about it. This is another angle to take. I'm not sure if there is a domain lead business?

I'm willing to pay if you can do what LeadRefs was doing. What I used the most were # of leads in upcoming auctions/drops.

As an example, Namejet PreRelease for tomorrow. LeadRefs sorted those domains by numbers of leads, found lots of good names like that.

fm1234 · Oct 24, 2012

x11joex11

Some of the secondary features you've mentioned are more interesting than the e-mail harvesting.

Some things I think that would improve the tool are the following:

- Are the potential users that belong to the email spending money on advertising for the keyword?
- Do they own multiple related domains?
- Are the domains developed or parked or redirected etc.

Mind you, SpyFu and DomainTools both provide these services already between them. But -- they provide them, and have for years, which means there's certainly a market. The trick is, do it better/cheaper (hardly difficult given the costs of these services.)

Frank

x11joex11 · Oct 25, 2012

So, domain-tools provides tools that give you that level of detail for the email like what you quoted me on up above?

fm1234 · Oct 29, 2012

No, you'd need to be using both SpyFu and DomainTools to get that, sorry if I was unclear.

x11joex11 · Oct 29, 2012

ah I see, I will investigate these tools then, lots of research to do.

GeoFan · Oct 29, 2012

:wave:

I still think that the idea of acquiring and prioritizing a structured list (lead data) from a web search (key phrase) ...

That is a very useful tool.

:imho:

x11joex11 · Nov 6, 2012

I just got another person saying he would pay the yearly fee for a tool like this, things are definitely looking better. If you like the idea of this tool please PM me or email joe at itechware dot com, I'm going to try and raise funding to help me cover the costs involved with starting this project (such as art/video/some coding aspects). I'd like to talk with each of you individually and see what concerns everyone shares and implement that into the software. If you want to see a proto-type of a basic version I can do this, but I will need some funding to get it to the next level (possibly pre-orders for at least 3 months), but I will make it happen for sure! I can't afford to make the product and lose money

, so I really need your support guys. Email me if you want this product and let me know exactly what you want to see.

Bannen · Nov 6, 2012

Which tool do you mean, Joe? Kind of a hodgepodge of suggestions above and not sure which one you refer to...

x11joex11 · Nov 7, 2012

Below is what I understand the program to do, let me know if this is correct or is missing anything.

Email Extractor For Domainers

Sources Scraped:
- Google
- Yahoo/Bing

Filter & Find Data Per Website By:
- Keyword in Domain Name
- Keyword in Title Tag (how many pages on the site did this occur)
- Keyword in Meta Tags (how many pages on the site did this occur)
- Keyword in content (how many pages on the site did this occur)
- Keyword in description (how many pages on the site did this occur
Email Addresses Found
- WhoIs Record LookUp
- Emails on pages
- Emails found in forms

Extract Information Found
- To CSV format File

Usage Per Account
- Free/Trial Domainer - $0/month - (1 uses per account/ip address per day. Limited to only 20 emails?
- Light Domainer - $20/month - (100,250 uses?)
- Heavy Domainer - $49/month - (1000/unlimited uses?)

Usage Defined as: You performed a search on a "keyword" and it returned back a large set of results.

Monthly Fee:
- $20/month - (features described above)
- $49/month - (features described above but more power, also extra features maybe?)

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