How can I sort out this BIG problem

I'm pissed off!

I've been trying to change the reg name of my domain for ages but the old owners been hard to contact,Anywayz 2 weeks ago on monday i paid him and he agreed that if i paid him he'd send the form off recorded before he goes on hoilday.Then on thursday he came on msn and swore down he has posted it and gave me a tracking number this is what i get-

Recorded Signed For™ items are only tracked after the item has been delivered. Depending on whether the item was sent first or second class, this may be a few days after posting. Please try again later

I dont know what to do anymore I'm tryed my best its all hes end thats the problem I dont have the kind of cash to take him to court

Phil-If Dre didn't sign Eminem,We wouldn't have 50 cent,if we didn't have 50 cent,We wouldn't have the game,g-unit shocking says:
form never turned up
ON HOLIDAY THIS COMPUTER SUCKS!!!! says:
hey well it was sent
Phil-If Dre didn't sign Eminem,We wouldn't have 50 cent,if we didn't have 50 cent,We wouldn't have the game,g-unit shocking says:
well royal mail have said that tracking numbers been running since january do u have a rep?
Phil-If Dre didn't sign Eminem,We wouldn't have 50 cent,if we didn't have 50 cent,We wouldn't have the game,g-unit shocking says:
and u did say u had loads of them in ur house
ON HOLIDAY THIS COMPUTER SUCKS!!!! says:
phil **** off am on holiday
Phil-If Dre didn't sign Eminem,We wouldn't have 50 cent,if we didn't have 50 cent,We wouldn't have the game,g-unit shocking says:
ok thats sorted u lied
ON HOLIDAY THIS COMPUTER SUCKS!!!! says:
a dont really give a **** about a form right now

For About 5 weeks I've been trying to get the old owner of my domain to send me the registant changing form so i can send it off and get it changed.

the first problem i sorted he asked for £4 because i owned him so i paid him via paypal (so i have proof) then it was 1 day before he went on hoilday and i txted him and spoke to him to remind him to send it off he agreed.

Later that night he came on msn messenger and gave me a tracking number for the form (Look below to what i get) anywayz it has now been 4 days and nothing as turned up,I dont have money to take him to court as I'm a student so i'm asking on advice.


"Recorded Signed For™ items are only tracked after the item has been delivered. Depending on whether the item was sent first or second class, this may be a few days after posting. Please try again later."

3 separate threads merged. Why did you start 3 anyway instead of sticking to just the first one?

What country did he sent it from, and where is its destination? How long do your mails usually take anyway? Perhaps 4 days is too short a time to panic.

The first one got moved by a mod and i forgot about this one. Hes from scotland,uk and 1st class it just only take a day.

2 of those days were 'weekend' days, right? Does your mail deliver on Sundays?
You might give it another day or two, and if nothing shows, he still doesn't have proof of delivery as long as your tracking information is correct.
Your best bet might be to keep contacting him... Just keep a level head, as I imagine he'd be even more willing to help you out if you came accross professionally
Best of luck, and let us know what happens,
Allan

the only weekend was sunday,I'm tryed going about it "professionally" for ages didn't work,I spoke to him today-

[15:05:18] Phil-If Dre : form never turned up
[15:05:59] ON HOLIDAY : hey well it was sent
[15:06:39] Phil-If Dre : well royal mail have said that tracking
numbers been running since january do u proof?
[15:07:14] Phil-If Dre : and u did say u had loads of them in ur
house
[15:09:28] ON HOLIDAY : phil **** off am on holiday
[15:09:39] Phil-If Dre : ok thats sorted u lied
[15:09:44] ON HOLIDAY : a dont really give a **** about a form right
now
[15:09:57] * ON HOLIDAY THIS COMPUTER SUCKS!!!! is now Offline
:lala:

Anyone theres gotta be a way i just want my domain

I've just emailed nominet the following-

Hi there

I have a really big problem that's starting to make me go mad,In January I bought the domain name blah.com with this being my first domain I never knew you needed a form to change the registrant information.So when the person I bought the domain name off transferred it to me via 123reg I thought safe thinking this was my domain.

Until I had an offer to sell the site after I went in to fulltime work,its been 5 weeks since I went to take that offer in that time I've been trying to get the old owner to send off the form to you lot signed and sealed,he asked me to pay £4 (Because I owned him") this Thursday he told me he had sent off the form and gave me a tracking number,After 4 days the letter hasn't turned up and it was sent 1st class the old owners now on holiday so I think hes scammed me.

What can I do I've phoned him,texted him but no reply,Legally the domain must surly be mine as its got my contact details plus he handed it over? I don't have the money to take him to court as I'm a student

Could you please help?! the only proof I have would be 123 reg account,paypal and msn conversations

Thanks
Phil

What can I do I've phoned him,texted him but no reply

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How often did you try to contact this guy in the past few days? If it was several times a day, and over the weekend at that, then I'd understand why he would simply block you.

armstrong said:

How often did you try to contact this guy in the past few days? If it was several times a day, and over the weekend at hat, then I'd understand why he would simply block you.

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lol file a claim

phil2k5 said:

What can I do I've phoned him,texted him but no reply,Legally the domain must surly be mine as its got my contact details plus he handed it over? I don't have the money to take him to court as I'm a student

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Phil, let me share you something a lot of people don't really know, much more
care.

Registrars treat the listed registrant as the legal owner of the domain, no ifs
ands or buts. They don't care what happened behind the scenes and after,
it's only the registration records that matter.

If anyone wishes to dispute the ownership, that's what the courts or any
dispute resolution providers are there for. But it's a matter of proving you are
truly the legal owner, and that's a tough one.

Good luck.

God i wish i never bought it now I've been scammed and easily,I wanted the domain to sell on as i knew it was worth more then he wanted to sell it for.

I'm only renting it at the moment,I couldn't go to court as i dont have the money but i could use there system would paypal,123 reg be proof?

phil2k5 said:

God i wish i never bought it now I've been scammed and easily,I wanted the domain to sell on as i knew it was worth more then he wanted to sell it for.

I'm only renting it at the moment,I couldn't go to court as i dont have the money but i could use there system would paypal,123 reg be proof?

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You mean to prove to paypal or 123 that you own the domain? Uh uh.

If you sent your friend to buy cigarettes for you at the nearest convenience
store, who do you think the cashier will think owns the cigarettes once your
friend pays up?

If you understand the answer to that question, you'll then understand how
and why registrars treat it in a similar way.

Whey the forums back up...Well yesterday i rang Nominet (I had this Really bitchy lady) and she told me that The old Registrant could just trasfer me the Registrant name without doing the paper trasfered forum she didn't really add much on to this though,She seemed to be telling me like i should know how to do this well i dont.

if she means the letter you get via the post with a code on I've got that

OK GREAT NEWS!!! I got the form today but hes signed it but he hasn't filled in the "Print name box" and you have to write a letter to nominet saying you agree to hand over the domain hes wrote it on the back of mine.

If it was me, I would do it all for him. He has signed it, so he has already approved it. I would fill out the form where needed that he left blank. So much as the letter is concerned, If it's suitable, I would photocopy it and send that. If not, I would type it up for him and send it with an overnight prepaid envelope (whatever you guys have for fedex over there), making it super easy for him to quickly sign and be done with it.

That's just what I would do.

What eclectro suggested is a very good solution for both of you.