The .PRO Discussion

I am sure that article is just for marketing purpose. I will not believe price statistics from sedo (or any other domain market). I read it as "Come one people, bid more/pay more for domains because the domain value "is increasing"" :lol:

I watched a few uk city geos expiring couple of years back and they were getting picked up on the drop straight away, but not picked up from snap.

Probally only worth holding if you have a plan or are willing to hold for quite a few years in my opinion.

erandi said:

I am sure that article is just for marketing purpose. I will not believe price statistics from sedo (or any other domain market). I read it as "Come one people, bid more/pay more for domains because the domain value "is increasing"" :lol:

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Why are you buying Pros if you don't think that the market is trending upward? Our own data supports it. ..

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siga said:

I watched a few uk city geos expiring couple of years back and they were getting picked up on the drop straight away, but not picked up from snap.

Probally only worth holding if you have a plan or are willing to hold for quite a few years in my opinion.

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How do you feel about high profile, well known geos?

B.Rubble said:

Why are you buying Pros if you don't think that the market is trending upward?

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This is an excellent question. I think it is clear that individual development is the only choice for this extension. And even then, one should tread with extreme caution and consider it carefully.

Speculative buying (sans development) will be an ever increasing losing proposition as domain values overall continue to decline. The Internet is forcibly trending away from "mom and pop" development and more towards consolidation. What we are seeing is a massive consolidation phase.

Ten years ago, when an individual professional wanted a web presence, they created a website. Today those same people are more likely to establish their presence on an existing mega-network. To add insult to injury, everyone that wants a website and a domain already has one.

The great build-out is over. The domain gold rush has ended and .PRO has now become coal. IMHO

There are a few loopholes in your theory MG.

Number of domains currently registered: 225 million. Number of websites online: 643 million (approximately). So there is a current shortfall of 400 million domains.

Granted, a lot of them are mom & pop stores, but if you're selling to them, you're probably doing it wrong.

The number of people coming online is growing exponentially. I guess within our lifetimes it will grow by 2x-3x from where it is today. More people - more demand - more sales, eco 101.

Startups are launched everyday, the domain, believe it or not, is probably the most important bit of the puzzle for online brand building, fb / twitter / g+ / pinterest notwithstanding.

It's the centre of all brand activity for a company, even apps have their own website.

In fact a company which only uses say facebook for promotion isn't really even a company imho, it's probably a one person organisation looking for retail sales.

Good domains will always be in demand and people will pay top dollar for them. Crap domains never were worth much, never will be, even in .com

MicroGuy said:

The great build-out is over. The domain gold rush has ended and .PRO has now become coal. IMHO

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:lol: One can argue .pro was never a diamond.

Joking aside, the "great-build-out is over" argument applies to all the extensions, including almighty .com, doesn't it?

Jawed said:

:lol: One can argue .pro was never a diamond.

Joking aside, the "great-build-out is over" argument applies to all the extensions, including almighty .com, doesn't it?

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I wonder if this person thinks its a diamond ?

I like the debate here and would like to see MG's answer to Jawed's post.

I see Encirca announced that this is the last month for .pro at 2.99$

expect .pro prices to shoot back up high end of month. I've gotten 3 emails on this from different domain registry sites saying the same thing. it will be interesting to see who ends up being the cheapest for renewals.

Lille

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Jawed said:

Joking aside, the "great-build-out is over" argument applies to all the extensions, including almighty .com, doesn't it?

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Yes. Therefore alternative extensions will become more and more unnecessary as the .COM market opens up. This is why it is urgent to quickly exit from .PRO if your main objective is that of speculative resale. I think individual development has less risk and is okay (eg. someone has a couple of .PROs for their business use.).

It is those that are buying and holding tens or hundreds of .PRO domains that will be hurt the most. This pain will come in the form of the "perpetual renewal" and unwillingness to drop domains that are unsold. IMO.

.PRO is NOT alt-extension to .com!
.PRO has its own positioning.

Is encirca's renewal still at $14.95? I am looking to move out if it is...

Move to hexonet.net before May 1.

I agree with Jergen Wolf and nicely said..I also think .pro has its own positioning. Hate to admit it, but selling .pro on the cheap is great in one sense, but prime real estate should not be given away for nothing. I think the discounts have served their purpose...but it is sending the wrong message.

This is uptown!

webdomain said:

...but prime real estate should not be given away for nothing. I think the discounts have served their purpose...but it is sending the wrong message.

This is uptown!

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It's not prime; just like most other extensions besides the top two or three.

Internal trading is relatively non-existent.

menzl said:

It's not prime; just like most other extensions besides the top two or three.

Internal trading is relatively non-existent.

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Do you think this owner considers .pro prime ??



When I look at the above screenshot...all i think is prime... this is after all the purpose of having a domain name to develope and rank....not so one can post statements about an extension

I am not shocked but a little surprised how easy it is to get side tracked with this domain business and the comments that are opinions only....

Is it or is not important to develope and rank?

If the answer is NO....than lets just shut this down

If the answer is yes than the supply and demand theory becomes part of the valuation equation.

How many people can own LosAngelesPatentAttorney. anything in the world that will rank and create trust so a potential client will become a lead or a sale ?

Is this something we should be talking or discussing about more versus an occasional IMHO about the value of the extension?

What was Las Vegas before the casinos ? It took vision and a little arm twisting...but it never was a .com

Pro and Contra

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PROgressive
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gkjunior said:

Do you think this owner considers .pro prime ??

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When I look at the above screenshot...all i think is prime... this is after all the purpose of having a domain name to develope and rank....not so one can post statements about an extension

I am not shocked but a little surprised how easy it is to get side tracked with this domain business and the comments that are opinions only....

Is it or is not important to develope and rank?
If the answer is NO....than lets just shut this down
If the answer is yes than the supply and demand theory becomes part of the valuation equation.
How many people can own LosAngelesPatentAttorney. anything in the world that will rank and create trust so a potential client will become a lead or a sale ?
Is this something we should be talking or discussing about more versus an occasional IMHO about the value of the extension?
What was Las Vegas before the casinos ? It took vision and a little arm twisting...but it never was a .com

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Thanks for the screenshot AND the post. I think it's noteworthy that there are two extensions on that page. Just two. No net, org, biz, us, me, mobi, co or tv. Just Pro and Com.

If you can't get the dot com that you need, what's your second choice going to be for the company in which you've poured years of blood and sweat. One of these? ... net, org, biz, us, me, mobi, co or tv.


8^X

terol said:

One more on auction:

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_detail.php?auction_id=125500

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The winner bidder of this auction didn't respect his personal honer - he didn't make payment for this domain name. :yell:

I have 85 Pros that I am willing to let go of for $500 total, this week only. Mixed bag, but mostly one word descriptive and action terms. PM me if you would like to see the list for the package deal.

Some of you here forget the most important thing, the highest position in google search is based in SEO abilities and not in the domain. In other words, you can get higher position even with example.com/keyword

If you search on google Free domain name, the first result will be co.nr, does it mean .nr is a great ccTLD? Maybe better than .pro?? lol

erandi, check this out: http://www.namepros.com/4246855-post3341.html
And please tell your SEO-stories on SEO-forums.
Thanks.

Jurgen Wolf said:

erandi, check this out: http://www.namepros.com/4246855-post3341.html
And please tell your SEO-stories on SEO-forums.
Thanks.

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:lol:
I have already gave my opinion about .pro sales.

erandi said:

Some of you here forget the most important thing, the highest position in google search is based in SEO abilities and not in the domain. In other words, you can get higher position even with example.com/keyword

If you search on google Free domain name, the first result will be co.nr, does it mean .nr is a great ccTLD? Maybe better than .pro?? lol

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Are you for real? You just lost all credibility for me. This is just bad will and arrogance.