.tv BIG MONEY MUGS - Who's ACTUALLY spending $10,000 a year on renewals?

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I've always been intrigued by WHO is really buying the $10,000 per year Premium names so I thought I'd do some research.

I picked a particular sector of the 'market' where there was an exact number of names (LL.tv) and discovered the following...

There are only 676 LL.tv names

Of these, some 140 (20.7%) are priced at $10,000 premium renewal every year.

Of those 140, only a mere 7 are actually taken. YES JUST SEVEN!

Of those 7...

One linked to a non-videcentric .com site

Two had a 'holding page' talking about the exciting things to come (yeah)...

Two had the 'girl with the backpack' ads

AND just TWO had a real 'watchable' TV channel sat on it

In simple terms, only 1 in every 20 (or 5%) of these extremely high-priced premiums are being SWEPT up by the world of domainers, developers and end-users.

Are the 5% buyers the gullible sector - or the smartie pants?

Does the fact that only one in every 70 of these names have any form of developed TV channel on it mean that the dream of internet TV is a lot further away than we think it is!

Or, does it mean that the premiums are WAY to high.

I would love to hear your views as I am literally reeling in shock!
 
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Shoot if you spend more than $10k a year on renewals I hope you make equal sales yikes! I think all of the renewals for my domains is like $6k a year including every TLD. I have about 390 domains down from 700 2 years ago.

JIMBO - quick question, how long have you been domaining? I ask because most folks that have been domaining for a while fear renewal time. The shear thought of renewing your entire port strikes fear in the hearts of men. Are you rich? I hope so, because you have spent a good amount to acquire some really great names, I would hate to see them get released back into the pool next year.

best of luck :)
 
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jimbo has a 150 foot boat, on vacation for 3 months and touring the world the seas while on his wireless laptop and is connected to the namepros .tv forum 24 hours, 7 days a week...can i have the honor to go on your ship jimbo, lol....

all kidding aside, renewing is a pain....fun to grab names but not renewing them....i am experiencing this now and next few weeks..
 
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domainacrobat said:
JIMBO - quick question, how long have you been domaining?
The shear thought of renewing your entire port strikes fear in the hearts of men.
best of luck :)

DA

I don't actually see myself as a domainer. I came here, as I've explained before, from the media side, and see the phase I am going through at the moment as acquiring the 'rough land' on which to build the 'new media empire'. I do have too many names, that is for sure, but what should I do. Spend all my life trying to sell them or get on with building the internet Tv site that I wanted in the first place?

As it stands I've actually got the name that is being developed (and it is being created as we speak). Fact is, as most can contest, once you've got the bug, you've got the bug - and we all love the chase of getting a quality name.

As for renewals, I've already been through the first 'serious' renewal time for hundreds of TV.coms I purchased a couple of years ago (I had the idea first then found NAMEPROS later).

Yes, renewals are painful, but paying some ugly f^cker cameraman and his assistant to go filming in a helicopter gives way more of an ache in the wallet. As does committing to the salary of staff, the paying for flights and expenses for those who are helping, the cost of kit - and a million and one other things.

No, I'm not rich, but nor will I ever be if I baulked at the reality of paying renewals.

The names are half of the brand if you get them right, but from a simple financial point of view they are only a small percentage of the total costs of any real development.

But I think you know all this anyway. Many know all about me from my intro in the Private Members section.
 
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Funny u mention LL.tv, I just saw one being advertised on tv last night.
 
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Jimbojimbo said:
Are the 5% buyers the gullible sector - or the smartie pants?

Gullible, take a single letter .tv, e.tv with a 10k renewal looks like it is going to be sold for a loss, and even that sale only has one bidder which suggests to me the price is probably above market value.

cosmicray said:
Just my opinion ... $5000.00 a month is nothing for a big player.

It needs to provide value for them to take the jump ... and also if .com

is doing the job why bother with Tuvalu is at work.

Yeah, even $1million a month would be nothing for Bill Gates!...unfortunately though this kind of thinking is not how the world works. "Big company" does not generally mean recklesss with money.
 
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well, cnn did pay 750,000.00 for ireport- if that aint reckless.....
half the companies for some idiotic reason go after a domain AFTER the announcment of a new product- not before- again, couldnt be more reckless
 
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smashfactory said:
well, cnn did pay 750,000.00 for ireport- if that aint reckless.....
half the companies for some idiotic reason go after a domain AFTER the announcment of a new product- not before- again, couldnt be more reckless

That is the exception rather than the rule, of all the companies in the world how many have overpaid like that in recent years?
 
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e.tv is a great name..... :gn:

not for your typical domainer or average domainer though...a person with a development plane in place and money to back this up like an online.tv or qoof or a couple domainers can do this here..
 
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snoop said:
That is the exception rather than the rule, of all the companies in the world how many have overpaid like that in recent years?

cnn, microsoft, google- only the smaller companies
 
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jeffoverman said:
e.tv is a great name..... :gn:

not for your typical domainer or average domainer though...a person with a development plane in place and money to back this up like an online.tv or qoof or a couple domainers can do this here..

The fact is the owner is about to sell it for a 15% loss after holding it for two renewal periods, and the renewal is the same as those (weaker) 2 letter names.
 
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snoop said:
The fact is the owner is about to sell it for a 15% loss after holding it for two renewal periods, and the renewal is the same as those (weaker) 2 letter names.

The fact is...Snoop likes to heckle to much.

Sometimes you just get tiresome, Snoopy-poo, and we start taking your criticisms rather like "oh, it's nothing, it's just Snoop." and that's about it.

Have a nice day, Snoop.
 
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Snoop,

Perhaps many here would pay a very high premium to buy FU.tv

Seriously, I actually value your input on this one but I feel it is a little hard hitting on E.Tv for having one bid so far - you know yourself that most SEDO auctions kick-off in the last ten minutes.
 
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I think that e.tv is a fantastic domain. I can truly say with hand on heart if I had the available funds I would snatch it up and reg for 10yrs. This has got to be the ultimate .tv domain and I feel for John if this does not reach a substantial figure.
The problem with sedo IMHO is that no one is doing any marketing for you once it's on auction. If the right person doesn't know about the sale then obviously they ain't going to buy it.
 
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Len said:
I can truly say with hand on heart if I had the available funds I would snatch it up and reg for 10yrs.

If you don't have or want to spend the money it really doesn't mean a thing. Somehow I think you'd find something better to spend your money on rather than the $117,000 that you claim you'd spend on this. If it was such a great deal the logical thing to do would be to run to the bank for a loan/use credit cards/sell off other domains to buy it etc.
 
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snoop said:
If you don't have or want to spend the money it really doesn't mean a thing. Somehow I think you'd find something better to spend your money on rather than the $117,000 that you claim you'd spend on this. If it was such a great deal the logical thing to do would be to run to the bank for a loan/use credit cards/sell off other domains to buy it etc.


I can send you my portfolio if you are looking to boost my finances. :blink:
 
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snoop said:
If it was such a great deal the logical thing to do would be to run to the bank for a loan/use credit cards/sell off other domains to buy it etc.

How do you know he not done that already - unless YOU are bidder 1



Are you attempting, by a process of demolition, to back everyone else off the coveted E.TV so you can have it for yourself?

How many .TV do you have already? Any premium?
 
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Jimbojimbo said:
How do you know he not done that already - unless YOU are bidder 1



Are you attempting, by a process of demolition, to back everyone else off the coveted E.TV so you can have it for yourself?

How many .TV do you have already? Any premium?

How do people think up this kind of argument?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjV8YjDiwe8
 
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Jimbojimbo said:
Snoop

If you would be so kind, for the second time...

How many .TV do you have already? Any premium?


It's so strange where people get their inspiration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJOvCHD1uHY

The same question has been asked in countless threads, I have a few dozen low quality .tv's and zero premiums.
 
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StoneRoses said:
Absoloute bollocks!, have you actually bothered to research anything about .tv before you decided to come into the .tv forum spouting your nonsense

There are plenty of companies who use .TV ,like Audi,Mercedes and many more if you care to read the threads,

I am sick of people like you coming in here talking bollocks when you clearly know **** all about it.

This type of attack was completely unnecessary and uncalled for. To speak to someone like this in a forum is poor form and it smacks of bullying. Also, if you continue to talk to people like this none of us will sell .TV names to newcomers.

The guy has an opinion and he has a right to express it and I don't see why he should be shouted down. Use your intelligence and respond with reasoned arguments and points, rather than launch a rabid attack. I don't see why you have to shout him down as he was responding to JimboJimbo's comment (and question). He was putting forward a view in response to that post. You may not agree with his view but to react like this is over the top and poor.

So you can can get stuck into me now if you like but quite frankly I couldn't give a stuff because I've had experts in this forum try and bully me and it's like water off a duck's back. This is supposedly a forum for everyone, not just an elite group of .TV diehards, and I'll continue to express my opinion and I hope this guy, and Snoop, and others do the same.
 
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