.mobi Is .MOBI a thing of the past?

MJ · Apr 28, 2008

Hey guys.. just browsing through the .mobi forum and thought I'd say hi. My goal is not to crush anyones hopes or dreams, but I just have to ask the question: do you think .mobi will boom and be more popular from here?

Cell phones are advancing day by day, and many cell phones in the US already have regular access to the world wide web. From your cell phone, you can access google.com, yahoo.com, cnn.com, etc etc... and see the full page just as though you were using your PC. You can now download full images, video and more.

If I can get to these main sites now on my regular web browser in my phone, why would anyone use WAP? This is more sites for them to remember. Should I go to fun.mobi today or fun.com? We are now creating two indepentant world wide webs, and only limited by the device you are browsing from.

Dont know.. just a thought. WAP was great back in the day when phones didn't have web browsers. Now phones are very high tech. I doubt anyone using the iPHONE has ever went to a WAP site. I sure wouldn't.

So then what about .mobi? Is it a think of the past? Are sales going to start rolling off when people realize there is nothing special about .mobi? Just some thoughts and opinions of mine. Thanks for listening, and I encourage your feedback (I really don't know that much about .mobi).

Alan Glennon · Apr 29, 2008

Worse case is that .mobi turns into just another tld -- then, it's a matter of where it falls --- I would guess it would end up in a .info-like market -- the perfect fits will do well. Brandables and such -- not so good.

bfluid said:
...Your phone will be a computer in 5yrs-ish.

hawkeye · Apr 29, 2008

bfluid said:
But for every 1 company you show me using a .mobi site I can show you 10+ (minimum) that use mobile.example.com or example.com/mobile. I have yet to see the first company market to me their .mobi site (except namepros.mobi).

Zagat.mobi, BofA.mobi, HSM2.mobi, Wachovia.mobi.
Now list your 10+ for each one of them... (if you can back your own rambling statements.)

bfluid said:
Yet many sites have marketed to me their example.com/mobile/.

Please provide us these examples so we can see too.

bfluid said:
And trust me, I don't live in a cave.

...uh, you sure??

Such insight from those that ask for 'Free domains'..

Steven · Apr 29, 2008

I'm going to leave the cell phone, browser technology and advancement in coding talk for now.

I'm going to address the goal of the .mobi
Any person going to .mobi is supposed to feel safe as .mobi is supposed to be a tld that supports mobile device friendly websites right?

I've gone through first five pages in google for only .mobi sites:
"site:.mobi"
I've input all the 50 sites in mtld emulator
Here are the stats:

3 are mobile device friendly websites
1 is a mobile device friendly for sale website
46 are not mobile device friendly/doesn't load

I think the mTLD should enforce their rules better imo.

bfluid · Apr 29, 2008

I have been advised not to post in the .mobi section due to excessive fighting that has occurred in the past. I can see why now.

And at that "Such insight from those that ask for 'Free domains'.." statement. Haha... I don't free domains and I don't ask for them in my sig. I don't need any names. But someone have me 7 domains the other day, that I can now sell for about $50. Those who don't make opportunities available don't receive the reward from them. I have thousands of dollars in domain names. I have thousands in the stock market. I have thousands in the bank. I have thousands invested in various things. No need for me to get free names. But why not? I mix my sig up all them time. This is just what I decided to do with it for the past little bit.

So don't go lowering my reputation and making my statements worthless just because you don't think I have enough money in the dn market to go anywhere.

I'm done in this thread.

Bye.

Alan Glennon · Apr 29, 2008

I completely agree.

mrdomainman said:
I think the mTLD should enforce their rules better imo.

hawkeye · Apr 29, 2008

bfluid said:
I have been advised not to post in the .mobi section due to excessive fighting that has occurred in the past. I can see why now.

Ok, so you come into the mobi forum, trash it and challenge it with your 'I can show you's', then when you get asked to show or prove your stated reasonings, you go and blame things on 'fighting in the mobi section' and huff off. Good Grief. Read your own postings and see who got riled up in their posts!! yup.. you!

Well.., ...bye!

Kate · Apr 29, 2008

bfluid said:
And if all of these company's that you are saying are rolling into the .mobi industry... why have LLL.mobi fallen in half? And why has interest in .mobi altogether become next to a ghost town?

I think there has been a correction indeed and the hype has settled a little bit. I have to say the constant cheerleading was sickening

Now it looks like a lot of companies have no intention of switching to mobi, so I think the extension will not be a gold standard in the mobile space like .com is. And it will be remembered as just another TLD.

qO_Op · Apr 29, 2008

mrdomainman said:
I've gone through first five pages in google for only .mobi sites:
"site:.mobi"

Try "site:.mobi inurl:.mobi"

labrocca · Apr 29, 2008

hawkeye said:
Ok, so you come into the mobi forum, trash it and challenge it with your 'I can show you's', then when you get asked to show or prove your stated reasonings, you go and blame things on 'fighting in the mobi section' and huff off. Good Grief. Read your own postings and see who got riled up in their posts!! yup.. you!

Well.., ...bye!

Here is 20 for ya. Some pretty big names and this was just 5 minutes of research and only for mobile version..imagine the m.domain.com's too. You're assumption that he he doesn't want to argue means his argument is wrong is false.

www.google.com/mobile/
mobile.yahoo.com
adobe/mobile/
mobile.myspace.com/
www.mtv.com/mobile/
www.sonypictures.com/mobile/
www.youtube.com/mobile
www.weather.com/mobile
www.vh1.com/mobile/
mobile.thenation.com/
mobile.aol.com
mobile.craigslist.org/
mobile.reuters.com
sportsline.com/mobile
www.foxnews.com/mobile/ (despite fox.mobi they still use mobile)
boston.com/mobile/
www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/
money.cnn.com/services/mobile
www.denverpost.com/mobile
www.news.com.au/mobile

You want some truth...here ya go.

http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?cc=US&ts_mode=country&lang=none

The top 15 (all I tried) alexa sites from USA...NONE use mobi. Some redirect to an mdot version and others to a /mobile. But NONE...not one..uses their mobi. Some don't even own their mobi version. A few don't even resolve.

My favorite...MSN and LIVE. Wasn't Microsoft a mTLD "backer"? lol

Your handful of companies convinced to use a mobi doesn't amount for much in the grand scheme of things.

If someone wants to waste more time...go through the rest of the Alexa top 100 and see how many use a mobi.

hedgefund · Apr 29, 2008

the thread should be locked. we have gone through this a numerous times.

RJ · Apr 29, 2008

m.existingdomain.tld is not going anywhere, nor will .MOBI be vanishing. Both a perfectly valid options for URLs and will continue to be. IMHO the former is a better fit for websites with an existing Internet presence, while .MOBI is perfect for new projects that are mobile in their focus.

So in that respect, .MOBI is not a thing of the past. It's relevant to today's Internet as one of several options for developers of mobile websites. Despite mTLD's effort, there won't ever be a single standard that everyone adopts.

Steven · Apr 29, 2008

vJRB said:
Try "site:.mobi inurl:.mobi"

Thanks

Much better .mobi sites with mobi format results :]

Alan Glennon · Apr 29, 2008

No, it's good to let people vent. Giving the anti-everything people something to do keeps them away from other mischief.

hedgefund said:
the thread should be locked. we have gone through this a numerous times.

hedgefund · Apr 29, 2008

Great point! .mobi is just another tld that is targeted for mobile devices, but other tlds can do mobile also.

thebiffenator · Apr 30, 2008

Why are people so bitter over just another TLD? I mean .mobi is just a regular TLD with no purpose right? But who cares if .mobi is Global and Mobile at the same time?

Why do people fear .mobi? That is the main question...??? And for people that say there is no need for .mobi (only proves that they are scared) :talk: (no offense) But Scared of What????

That said Basicly theres no need for any other extenstion since a .com can do that as well with any other extension! But guess what....Some people missed the boat!

-The Early Bird Catches the Late Worm.

Uncle Biff

bricio · Apr 30, 2008

why things are so hot here?

thats what i dont understand and why i avoid posting here
thats why mobi section isnt so good as it was before

i dont have problems when i read people think it wont succeed nor when i read they say it is junk and bla bla bla but then i feel these people are afraid of the competition other good extensions will have within 5-10 years as they just say it is junk without providing any data

but when they provide some data they forget .mobi was launched in 2006 not in the 80s or early 90s...

wise post -RJ- and i second you

coast · Apr 30, 2008

mrdomainman said:
I'm going to leave the cell phone, browser technology and advancement in coding talk for now.

I'm going to address the goal of the .mobi
Any person going to .mobi is supposed to feel safe as .mobi is supposed to be a tld that supports mobile device friendly websites right?

I've gone through first five pages in google for only .mobi sites:
"site:.mobi"
I've input all the 50 sites in mtld emulator
Here are the stats:

3 are mobile device friendly websites
1 is a mobile device friendly for sale website
46 are not mobile device friendly/doesn't load

I think the mTLD should enforce their rules better imo.

I agree. You can post comments in the mtld blog at http://dotmobi.typepad.com

Let them know what you just said here and they will see that people are paying attention.

coast said:
That is not actually true. There are transcoding features built into .mobi that are not built into .com. Right now Vodaphone UK and Sprint PCS in the US are advising .com site owners to get on their whitelist or create a second m.something.com or something.com/wap site to be seen on a phone, or to use a .mobi. I have this confirmed by a mobile advertising company and posted this under another thread.

For accuracy, I have been told that the transcoding is actually done by the phone carriers, mainly Vodaphone and Sprint PCS. The .mobi names are automatically whitelisted because they are intended to be viewed on a mobile phone. So it is a trustmark issue and not a technical issue.

One other thing: I really don't understand the fighting on here at all and never did. I like mobi, I have a mobi blog, and I think there is potential for the future. Some people don't agree. So what? What is so polarizing about this? I don't get it.

labrocca · Apr 30, 2008

Why are people so bitter over just another TLD? I mean .mobi is just a regular TLD with no purpose right? But who cares if .mobi is Global and Mobile at the same time?

Why are people so elated over just another TLD? I mean .mobi is just another possible use for mobile websites right? But who cares if mobile or mdot is the same option at the same time?

mjnels · Apr 30, 2008

labrocca said:
Why are people so elated over just another TLD? I mean .mobi is just another possible use for mobile websites right? But who cares if mobile or mdot is the same option at the same time?

i cant make money from /mobile or mdot speculation.... THAT is why people are so elated over a TLD.... now why are they so bitter?

thebiffenator · Apr 30, 2008

labrocca said:
Why are people so elated over just another TLD? I mean .mobi is just another possible use for mobile websites right? But who cares if mobile or mdot is the same option at the same time?

No argument there, its a huge market for the mobile web! And it is at it's infancy!

MJ · Apr 30, 2008

Wow guys. Didn't mean to start such arguing between members. Thanks for all of your opinions, I will take each one into consideration. Time will tell what is in store for our mobi domains.. there is no point in arguing.

I have decided to develop one of my .mobi's and test the waters. I will let yall know when it's up and running!

hawkeye · Apr 30, 2008

labrocca said:
Why are people so elated over just another TLD? I mean .mobi is just another possible use for mobile websites right? But who cares if mobile or mdot is the same option at the same time?

they're not labrocca, just those who have no life and like to go into threads of extensions they despise get that feeling, because they are 'alone'.

On the mdot/mobile question, again only those that need to keep griping about it and bringing it up. oh.. like you!

Also you only gave 20 examples above on the mobile alternatives. (which must be pointed out, shows the simplicity of only having to remember all the various choices and chances one must go to to get the right one.) The criteria was 10+minimum per mobi name. You still owe us 20 more names. And if you're going to keep up the secretarial duties of the others that this was directed to, you should at least do the job at hand in full!!

bfluid · Apr 30, 2008

hawkeye said:
they're not labrocca, just those who have no life and like to go into threads of extensions they despise get that feeling, because they are 'alone'.

On the mdot/mobile question, again only those that need to keep griping about it and bringing it up. oh.. like you!

Also you only gave 20 examples above on the mobile alternatives. (which must be pointed out, shows the simplicity of only having to remember all the various choices and chances one must go to to get the right one.) The criteria was 10+minimum per mobi name. You still owe us 20 more names. And if you're going to keep up the secretarial duties of the others that this was directed to, you should at least do the job at hand in full!!

thebiffenator · Apr 30, 2008

bfluid said:
Are you serious?

I wouldn't be posting but if you have sink down like that. I might as well finish my job before I leave, and post the sites.

Here is 50 for you. Over and beyond what I promised. Combined with labrocca you have 70 examples of what you already knew existed.

http://avantgo.accountancyage.com/Pocket/
http://m.yp.com/
http://mobile.yellow.ca/
http://mobile.ups.com/
http://wap.tnt.com
http://www.thestreet.com/ag
http://www.planetizen.com/mobile/
http://mobile.itweek.co.uk/
http://wap.ft.com/
http://mobile.fedex.com/
http://www.enterpriseunix.org/mobile/
http://www.enterpriselinux.org/mobile/
http://wap.exchange.de
http://www.arcadeathome.com/mobile.php
http://www.calgarymovies.com/mobile/
http://www.classicscifi.com/small/
http://www.dailycandy.com/m
http://mobile.digitalspy.co.uk/
http://wap.f1tipping.com/
http://www.game-over.net/mobile/
http://www.caerleon.us/hb/mobile
http://wap.webtender.com/
http://www.mp3charts.com/wap/
http://wap.nimini.com/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/wap/
http://www.somewherenear.com/wap
http://mobile.theonion.com/
http://mobile.thrillnetwork.com
http://wap.travelape.com/
http://m.youtube.com
http://wap.afterdawn.com/
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/mobile/
http://www.bargainpda.com/mobile/
http://www.bigbluelinux.org/mobile/
http://m.cnet.com/
http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/mobile/
http://www.dpreview.com/mobile/
http://mobile.digitalspy.co.uk/
http://www.earthv.com/mobile/
http://mobile.f-secure.com
http://www.gadgetaddict.com/mobile/
http://www.ilounge.com/mobile
http://www.linuxhpc.org/mobile/
http://mobile.macrumors.com/
http://www.macnn.com/mobile
http://mobile.msmobiles.com/
http://mobile.my-symbian.com/
http://www.openvms.org/mobile/
http://wap.osnews.com
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/mobile/

What is wrong with this picture here HMMMM how does the enduser know what to type in? It kind of sounds like some moron that loves the Yankees for no reason at all and says that they love the yanks, and there not from NYC, but they are a popular team. :D

.mobi sets standards unlike this (please do your homework) No Offence

Traveler · Apr 30, 2008

That list would be so much cleaner if instead of having so many different formats for accessing the mobile site, they all used the same one.

As it is they are using; wap.sitename.com, m.sitename.com, or sitename.com/mobile, mobile.sitename.com, sitename.com/wap and a some others.

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