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Below is a Scam email that I just got. This has been around for awhile, but I just wanted to point it out again, since I just got this a couple seconds ago.

Hello,

Please email a price you can accept for your domain name.

Our company develops software for multiple video systems. Domain names is not our business but a new way to earn on reselling. We are going to buy domains to resell them at higher prices. Our company has a large database of clients interested in good domains.

If you offer more domains for sale with good reselling potential please email us your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Jacob Cohen, Ph. D.
CEO
TGN Technologies

email address used: [email protected]
 
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From Ahoover(.)com

Hello,

We are interested in XXXXX.biz

It was listed in auction (your address was found via WHO IS). Please submit your price for consideration.

Our company is involved in software development/support business.

Now domain invetsing/reselling is just an additional direction of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Anthony Hoover
President
HTS Software
 
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And yet another one ...

Hello,

We are interested in *****.biz

Your name was listed in online auction. What is your price for the name?

Our company is involved in software development/support business.

Now domain invetsing/reselling is just an additional direction of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Anthony Camacho
President
TGS Software
 
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here is another one, i got two days ago.

TG Network Consulting <[email protected]> hide details Oct 31 (4 days ago)
date Oct 31, 2007 4:57 PM
subject Domain.name

Hello,

We are interested in (domain.name)

Your name was listed in online auction. What is your price for the name?

Our company is involved in software development/support business.

Now domain invetsing/reselling is just an additional direction of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Paul Camacho
President
TG Network Consulting
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I just registered that domain a day ago and the very next day i get this domain, he is running a script on newly registered domains and then looking up the whois, an email is send out, its a nice amount of daily collection he makes, not everyone in this workd is aware of this scam.

Maybe not a scam, but a mechanism to do sales. its our greed that gives him the opportunity.
 
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Is this scam still around? Wow :)
Works the same way as it has for the last couple years, they just keep changing a few details. I, and others, have written lots here about it... pretty simple process:
1. they email that they're interested in your name and ask you your selling price.
2. they reply OK to any amount you tell them.
3. they say that you must get a professional, personal appraisal for your name to prove its value.
4. they refer you to a url that takes you to what looks to be a forum discussing domain appraisers. **it is a FAKE forum page that they faked to look real**.
5. on that fake forum page, people seem to be 'bashing' other appraisers, but saying that one is very good. The one they say is good keeps changing name, as too many people catch on to one set of names they create a new set. It used to be allfordomains.com, now I see they're using domainsecondhand.com. Ha.
6. you go to that site, pay a huge whack of cash for a 'personal' appraisal... which actually looks suspiciously like all the auto appraisals you can get anywhere else, ha.
7. you supply this to the 'buyer', who then mysteriously loses interest in your name, comes up with an excuse that he's found a better name, or just ignores you and you never hear from them again. They've made their money on the scam appraisal, so they no longer need to pretend interest :)

If you look at www.domainsecondhand.com, and then go www.allfordomains.com, you'll see they are exactly the same. Layout, info, everything.

I could say a lot more, but it gets tiring re-hashing it about these geekeroonies. About 2 years ago my domaining pard got taken in for this scam. Then the next time it happened, we had some fun with it, played it right through (without doing the appraisal of course, just lots of talk back and forth), then started to pretend to act suspicious, then started to research whatever we could on them - ip address, where they're from, the names and businesses they used, etc... then we got really serious and said we were notifying the FBI, that this was a huge fraud and they were committing a serious crime, that we tracked down the names of people they were impersonating, called the companies whose names they were using so they could take them to court, etc, etc, really went to town telling them the 'steps we took each day', and they were literally SCREAMING at us over the emails by the time we got tired of it. They were swearing, threatening us in bad English (they - or some of them - are foreign), sometimes being apologetic and defensive.

Anyway, boy these guys get tiring. And they're still making a lot of money obvously, no one's shut them down yet and there are so many newbie domainers every day for them to victimize...
 
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I got such scam just today, slightly changed though, from ferguson (at) toughguy.net. Those scammers like to use such e-mail services, with such type of interface. All times I got such scam were on freshly regged names, looks like they really hope to scam newbies.

And, Bannen, please delete links to those scum appraisal sites because second one contains backdoor and trojan in it. Or, Moderators, please do it ASAP because it is really dangerous.

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Hello,

We are interested in XXXXXXXX.us

Your name was listed for sale. Please let us know your price.

Our company provides IT security services and performs security audit of local and global networks. Our clients are mainly based in Europe and Canada.

So investing in names is an additional direction of our financial strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Jeremy Ferguson
President
ITU Consulting
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unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
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and deleting it from your computer.

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Yofie said:
Below is a Scam email that I just got. This has been around for awhile, but I just wanted to point it out again, since I just got this a couple seconds ago.

Hello,

Please email a price you can accept for your domain name.

Our company develops software for multiple video systems. Domain names is not our business but a new way to earn on reselling. We are going to buy domains to resell them at higher prices. Our company has a large database of clients interested in good domains.

If you offer more domains for sale with good reselling potential please email us your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Jacob Cohen, Ph. D.
CEO
TGN Technologies

email address used: cohen@[B][COLOR=Red]toughguy.net[/COLOR][/B]



Hello,

I just saw that I received a mail with an offer for my domain obale.com from that email-address toughguy.net.

Hello,

We are interested in obale.com

Your name was listed for sale. Please let us know your price.

Our company provides IT security services ...etcetc

hmm seems to be another scam email then ...



SCAMMER EMAIL: ferguson@[B]toughguy.net [/B]
 
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here is another one, i got over one month ago

Hello,

We are interested in v8i.biz

Your name was listed in online auction. What is your price for the name?

Our company is involved in software development/support business.

Now domain invetsing/reselling is just an additional direction of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Anthony Garringer
President
TGNet Consulting

[email protected]

ps. ups i really wanted to send money for appraisal for him but i've spent too much money for other domains good for me :hi:
 
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yeah i also received 2 or 3 emails from this domain "toughguy.net" in past 3-4 months and they are all scam
 
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Domain Appraisal Scam

Hi all,

I'm pretty sure it's the same guy that annoyed me so much about a year ago that I made www.domainappraisalscam.com. I'm happy to be helping to expose this scam.

Stay safe all.
 
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Also got one in my spam mail today.....

Hello,

We are interested in xxxx.com

Your name was listed for sale. Please let us know your price.

Our works in information technology industry. Our clients are mainly from Europe, Australia, USA and Canada.

So investing in names is just a part of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Shannon Norris
President
TGN Services
 
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Same scam, ignore it.
 
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I have been catch by this scam

I received the following message on december 20. And guest what... I ordered the damn appraisal... And worse, I subscribe to reply to wanted domain forum. Man... i'm not proud of me. :'(

What are your advise ? I contacted plimus and asked for refund. Also called my credit card company. What else should i do ?

Thanks...


from : TNG Services [mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 20 december 2007 05:29

Hello,

We are interested in xxxxxxxxx.net

Your name was listed for sale. Please let us know your price.

Our works in information technology industry. Our clients are mainly from Europe, Australia, USA and Canada.

So investing in names is just a part of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Samuel Norris
President
TNG Services


and then

I'm a busy person who does not have enough time for bidding wars :)

Your auction page does not contain asking price.

I need to know the lowest price you can accept.

What is your price range: $9,000 or $10,000 or even higher?

I'm sure it will take a lot of time and efforts to find someone who will offer you more.


and again


Hello,

Sorry for delay with reply. Today I became a father. It's an amazing feeling! It's a boy!

Let's get back to our business

xxxxx$. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just name?

If just name it's ok. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals.

Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too.

But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/730581.htm


Just check this posting.

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain
it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.
 
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Just got this on a newly registered name. It was from [email protected]


Hello,

We are interested in XXXXXXXXX.xxx

Your name was listed for sale. Please let us know your price.

Our works in information technology industry. Our clients are mainly from
Europe, Australia, USA and Canada.

So investing in names is just a part of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Merry Christmas to you and your family!

Regards,
Anthony Norris
President
TNG Services
 
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I got

Hello,

We are interested in *****.org

Your name was auctioned for sale.

Main direction of our business is network protection and intrusin detection systems.

So Internet names is just a part of our investment strategy.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
George Daley
Vice President
ITG Software Systems

I reply

He reply back

This is not a real appraisal.

Sellers always provide buyers with valuations. This is a common practice.

I don't trust $14 like GoDaddy's valuation service. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.

I researched several companies and here are the results:

I considered www.Afternic.com, but now it's clear their service is not reliable enough.
Just read this:
http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

Another complaint
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630


I was told about manual research service from http://www.DomainMart.com but it's very expensive - $200/hour.

Many experienced sellers suggested me www.DomainSecondHand.com as a trustworth manual service. Fortunately, it's not so expensive.
 
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Thanks to all this post. I got email like that too... I'm googling and find this thread. Thanks. And always beware...
 
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I also got an email about a month ago
Email:[email protected]
And because i am a newbie in the domain industry i falled for it and spend like 60$.I am such an idiot.Can i do anything to get my money back?
These people have to stop!They are illegal and are making money from domain newbies.There should be a way to stop them!
Thanks
 
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Ive been had by this guy & went for the appraisel he suggested, dont tell me thats a scam as well.
 
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There is another version now also...just got this one....it had tng in the header, but then TNN in the footer..it also came from a phreaker account.

Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:43:34 +0300

Hello,

Just let me know your price for xx.xxx. I regularly check domain auctions and your name has good potential.

We are working on software market. So Internet names is just a part of our investment strategy. Reselling brings us some additional income.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Andreas Winski
Vice President
TNN Technologies
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NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.

===========================================================================

cybernetic said:
Hi all,

I'm pretty sure it's the same guy that annoyed me so much about a year ago that I made www.domainappraisalscam.com. I'm happy to be helping to expose this scam.

Stay safe all.

I wanted to add more info from the TNG letters, but when I try to get to your site, I am redirected to an appraisal site. I dont know what to think now, as wasnt his point to get ppl to have an appraisal done? and doesnt this accomplish the same thing. I mean, if you were him, havent you assomplished the same ends, but instead now you look like the good guy?
i am not accusing either way, i'm just saying........
 
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