.mobi Talk to me about the iphone

nrmillions said:

you are the one off base. do you actually think only current companies with a .com site will be the only ones who will exist in the future? You dont think other companies will ever come around with new startups specializing in mobile content? You actually believe that a huge ringtone company in the future that does not own ringtones.com would not want to own ringtones.mobi to sell ringtones on? .mobi and .com and all the other extensions can all exist at the same time on the mobile web. a properly funded and developed site can be a huge success no matter what the extension, look at last.fm and del.icio.us. .mobi domains are not just for companies who own a .com to have a mobile version of. its also for entirely new companies with entirely new content. One startup might use songs.com to sell mp3 songs on for cellphones and another company might use songs.mobi to also sell songs on for mobile phones. Sometimes people might be in the mood to use their phone to surf regular .com websites from their iphone and sometimes people might want to go to a mobi site. you dont think people can do both? you can see it already starting to form with companies like bank of america doing their entire mobile banking only from their .mobi site. .mobi sites can be indexed in mobile search engines just like .com sites for when people use yahoo one search or regular google or whatever. you have turned against .mobi because you were not smart enough to reg anything halfway decent that people would actually want to use on their phones and are mad nobody wants to buy your mobi names for even $5. your mobi names even in .com would be worthless. you have missed the boat on both the regular internet and the mobile internet. bad names are bad names no matter what the extension. the people who are developing their mobi sites into businesses could easily be successful whether mobi becomes mainstream or not.

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Nicely put nrmillion. Any extension will work on the mobile internet, and .mobi is just another extension, though it happens to be intended for the mobile internet so people will relate to it as such. Obviously sites in other extensions will have to do more branding to let visitors know the right address to get them mobile. But this offers the chance for a lot of new companies and sites that can now start out with names that are now/have been out of reach in .com or even .net. Doesn't mean one extension is going to loose or win. That is the 'hoping for arguement' you noted of the 'late to the dancers (again).' .mobi is just a new extension that has a very good chance to be a recognizeable extension usable for it's designed purpose.

People like us, who are tech savvy enough to even be aware of this debate about .mobi vs oled screens and such, are the minority. For every geek or businessman that can afford an Iphone, there are 5 or 10 or 50 nephews, cousins, sisters, etc. for whom a regular cellphone will be all they need and use for the next 5 years. And that's looking at it from a North American perspective - don't forget the billions of Asians, Africans, S. Americans, and Europeans.

What I'm saying is, even if all these great technologies come out, and I have no doubt they will soon, they will only, at best, represent a minority segment of the market. It won't be an all or nothing proposition, and therefore .mobi will have a very good shot at becoming identified with the "small screen" lite version of internet surfing.

I don't really see these new technologies being cheap in the near future, especially if data plans come down in price, since fancy phones are subsidized by the carriers' plans and lengthy contracts.

.Com definitely holds the bulk of the internet content, and there is certainly a market demand to make that content portable, but again, there is also a pent-up demand for slimmed down, uncluttered mobilized content, and that is where .mobi shall shine! In fact people may even prefer many .mobi-type sites on their pc to find what they want fast, without tons of clutter. :hehe: I'm finding that already myself.

nrmillions said:

you are the one off base. do you actually think only current companies with a .com site will be the only ones who will exist in the future? You dont think other companies will ever come around with new startups specializing in mobile content? You actually believe that a huge ringtone company in the future that does not own ringtones.com would not want to own ringtones.mobi to sell ringtones on? .mobi and .com and all the other extensions can all exist at the same time on the mobile web. a properly funded and developed site can be a huge success no matter what the extension, look at last.fm and del.icio.us. .mobi domains are not just for companies who own a .com to have a mobile version of. its also for entirely new companies with entirely new content. One startup might use songs.com to sell mp3 songs on for cellphones and another company might use songs.mobi to also sell songs on for mobile phones. Sometimes people might be in the mood to use their phone to surf regular .com websites from their iphone and sometimes people might want to go to a mobi site. you dont think people can do both? you can see it already starting to form with companies like bank of america doing their entire mobile banking only from their .mobi site. .mobi sites can be indexed in mobile search engines just like .com sites for when people use yahoo one search or regular google or whatever.

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Excellent points nrmillions.

I might lose a shitload of money with my .mobi registrations.

But you know what? I don't care.

I've made and lost a shitload of money with my .coms, my .nets, and the stock market.

Why would I lose a shitload of money with .mobi? Because I have a lot of money in them.

Why did I put a shitload of money in them? Because I believe in them.

Why are there a shitload of "shitload"'s in my post? Don't know...probably because it is three a.m.

Here's the deal...write it down.

The global cell phone companies are finally getting their crap together. They see one unification and that is with the .mobi. It is their fault, as being competitors, that this has not come about sooner. Now, thankfully, they realize their mistake. What woke them us to this? The nearly 3-4 Billion cell phones sold world wide and the sales just keep going up and up.

They are beginning to come together as a cohesive industry and realize that competition is good but cooperative effort is better and will benefit all. They also realize that the times are a changing.

I think it was Hawkeye earlier in this thread that mentioned you will see prices drop. Indeed you will. NOW, more than ever, they have a chance to not only grab onto but to HANG ONTO that cell phone user buy offering more services and more choices and something unique to the industry and with, you know what? Something that sounds cool as hell...MOBI. This generation will want something of their own, something unique, something their parents did not have. Didn't we?

And here's another shocker and you can write this down.

Cell phone companies will start banding together and allow service to service connections FREE OF CHARGE, pay one flat monthly fee FOR ALL SERVICES, and take it with you no matter where you go...EVEN OVERSEAS? Why, it is a win-win...win for the consumer, win for the cell phone company.

Already, nearly 30% of the 25 and under crowd here in the US don't even own a landline. That number drops to less than 13% for the (egads!) older crowd.

It will be a cold day in hell before someone convinces me that the billions of cell phones in use currently and the additional billions that are projected to be sold by 2010 is wishful thinking. And it will be a cold day in hell before someone convinces me that with the Billions of dollars driving the cellular phone industry that they can not get and have what they want. And those billions are supposed to tune into what?

Do you think they want dot com? Hell no.

Do you think I want to look at a mobi on my laptop or desktop monitor? Hell no.

Why is this concept so hard to grasp. It's here, it's staying, it's bad to the bone and it is going to kick some ass.

Write it down.

And for those of you that have no clue what a mobi looks like, say hello to my leetle friend...

Say hello to my baby boy, Mobi...the cream colored Labrador Retriever puppy rescued from the local animal shelter.

2:50 a.m. Sweet dreams!

Ahab's eccentricities multiply and intensify. He throws his pipe off the ship. He asks his crew to yell more loudly if they spot a white whale. Then he tells the crew that a gold doubloon will go to the crewman who first spots a "white-headed whale with a wrinkled brow and a crooked jaw". He then nails the coin to the ship's mast, saying, "God hath struck a cord on this here coin!" Herman Melville, Mobi Dick

I have spotted the white whale.

HasRob said:

LOL, I really think there are some here who have smoked a little too much .mobi

Perhaps you missed the iphone commercial where it said "And this is the internet" >>>>>>> NYTimes.com

Until, wait a minute let me rephrase, "IF" any of the big boys promote .mobi on tv then you have a chance. But all I have seen so far is the promotion of mobile phones, ipods, mda's, pocket pc's etc all showing .com websites.

Theres so much confidence here in these forums for this extension but I see fear all over. I have watched countless threads of mobi names for sale with no buyers. I am also having a hard time selling small portfolios (10 names) of decent brandable .mobi domains for dirt cheap. That in itself tells me alot about what people are really thinking. Cant even get a $5.00 offer???

Could I be dead wrong? Absolutely. But right now I'm simply calling it as I see it. Technology, new phones with wide screens, iphones whatever will :imho: leave .mobi in a history book before it was ever born.

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There wouldnt be a $5.00 offer for a bad .com either. The name has to be descent to bring in the bucks! While you have not had any offers, many people have already sold mobis for thousands.

Now to the issue at hand. The iphone is nice, no disputing that. Unfortunately, Apple is only one company with one phone vs. an array of phone companies with multiple phones all backing .mobi. I believe that if the web could be delivered in the traditional sense through the current phones then it would already be a major hit. The truth is that no one wants to use it and the complaints are always the same (to slow, bad picture). Mobi will wipe out any fears people have of accessing the mobile web and will deliver quality each and every time it is used to surf the web. It is like buying a cadillac vs. a neon, you still get the car but not near the quality.

Good luck to all who have made a sound investment in the future of .mobi!

Keithmt

I HATE horizontal scrolling...Period.



Martin

there are new iPhone ads available on www.apple.com !!

here is a direct link:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/

Mobi the Dog will be bigger than .com

darmar said:

there are new iPhone ads available on www.apple.com !!

here is a direct link:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/

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Great link, wonderful commercials, nice example of having a full web site on a screen about 2x3 and having to scroll, enlarge, pick, choose, enlarge, pick, pick, pick, nope, go back, enlarge, enlarge, oops, start over of a website.

That was a dot com. Oddly (and predictably) enough, the entire website did not fit the screen.

a.i.d.a.
Look it up.

Now go to Dir.mobi, boroughs.mobi, fux.mobi, en-route.mobi, bmw.mobi, weiwei.mobi.

Wasn't that easy?

nrmillions said:

you are the one off base. do you actually think only current companies with a .com site will be the only ones who will exist in the future? You dont think other companies will ever come around with new startups specializing in mobile content? You actually believe that a huge ringtone company in the future that does not own ringtones.com would not want to own ringtones.mobi to sell ringtones on? .mobi and .com and all the other extensions can all exist at the same time on the mobile web. a properly funded and developed site can be a huge success no matter what the extension, look at last.fm and del.icio.us. .mobi domains are not just for companies who own a .com to have a mobile version of. its also for entirely new companies with entirely new content. One startup might use songs.com to sell mp3 songs on for cellphones and another company might use songs.mobi to also sell songs on for mobile phones. Sometimes people might be in the mood to use their phone to surf regular .com websites from their iphone and sometimes people might want to go to a mobi site. you dont think people can do both? you can see it already starting to form with companies like bank of america doing their entire mobile banking only from their .mobi site. .mobi sites can be indexed in mobile search engines just like .com sites for when people use yahoo one search or regular google or whatever. you have turned against .mobi because you were not smart enough to reg anything halfway decent that people would actually want to use on their phones and are mad nobody wants to buy your mobi names for even $5. your mobi names even in .com would be worthless. you have missed the boat on both the regular internet and the mobile internet. bad names are bad names no matter what the extension. the people who are developing their mobi sites into businesses could easily be successful whether mobi becomes mainstream or not.

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All I do is laugh :imho:

HasRob said:

All I do is laugh :imho:

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guess it beats crying... :zzz:

circa1850 said:

Say hello to my baby boy, Mobi...the cream colored Labrador Retriever puppy rescued from the local animal shelter.

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You named your dog Mobi, now that's hot! He kind of looks like me too! :hehe:

garrett200 said:

You named your dog Mobi, now that's hot! He kind of looks like me too! :hehe:

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The great white whale, Mobi Dick by Herman Melville.

Believe it or not, people have already asked about the name, they love it, don't understand the spelling, my wife explains it, they've never heard about it, but now they have and they are interested.

One is an IT professional, he and his wife are nationally certified therapy dog trainers, and he had never heard of mobi. As of Monday night with the class Class III obedience final session that he and his wife were instructing, now he has heard of .mobi, he is interested, and asked my wife if it would be okay to call me regarding domains in general and mobi (the domain).

He works at a major mega corporation. I guess just because you are into computers and set up networds does not mean you are into domains. Perhaps that was a poor assumption of my part.

"This forum was created to discuss the .mobi extension, not question its existence."

seanboy said:

"This forum was created to discuss the .mobi extension, not question its existence."

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Concise and to the point. NICE!

circa1850 said:

Concise and to the point. NICE!

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Except that they're not my words, but an excerpt from the updated rules of the .mobi forum.

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/334731-forum-rules-read-before-posting.html

Perhaps some people here should read them?

People are used to going to current site urls, walmart.com for example, they will automatically try to goto the same url via their phone, walmart.com, its habit and habits are hard to break...

I just saw the iphone commercial on tv and they are kinda saying dont settle for anything less then the sites you are used to seeing and know via the internet.

i think mobi could do well if companies begin making sites suited for mobiles using the mobi address, like nokia could use .mobi and make tutorials on how to use your phone, etc, they just need to make it work with mobiles, i'm not a mobi fan, nor do i own a mobi domain but i wish you all well

I've invested alot of development time for the iPhone

My feeling is that the iPhone will be very good for .mobi. I know that they are pushing it for full size websites but users given the choice I believe will opt for smaller mobile versions of their popular websites.

Following a text link even with the screen blown up to full scale is going to be difficult for text links.

For the last 3 months I have been developing websites especially suited to the iPhone and other touch screen devices which I am sure will follow. The sites I have developed are...

www.iteams.mobi
www.iKidz.mobi
www.wapgroups.mobi
www.iDude.mobi

All of these share the same basic UI which I patterned after the demo screens for the iPhone.

We'll see what happens. I have my fingers crossed.

-Al

Tippy said:

People are used to going to current site urls, walmart.com for example, they will automatically try to goto the same url via their phone, walmart.com, its habit and habits are hard to break...

I just saw the iphone commercial on tv and they are kinda saying dont settle for anything less then the sites you are used to seeing and know via the internet.

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True - the Iphone is making the internet, as we know it, accessible to small screens, which is nice, I agree... and to some degree this runs counter to the raison d'etre du mobi. I may very well get an Iphone for myself, however...

could I justify spending the $$$ on one for my wife or kids, or how about that taxi driver in Mumbai? An Iphone may not be available with my carrier - will I change phone #s? I just upgraded, and so am already locked in with another carrier for another 2 years, etc.

even though I can view a regular site on my Iphone, once I get it, I will only if there is no mobile-formatted alternative. Sites that I need for business, work, etc. will be nice to have at least half-decent access to them on the go. But sites nicely formatted for my screen, with minimal clutter and bandwidth footprint, fast-loading, will make it to the top of my bookmarks list... and new habits will be borne.

People with limited bandwidth or download restrictions or slow connections will have even more reason to build new habits. 25 Mb goes pretty quick on the regular net, but when people discover that with .mobi sites you can surf them all day and still remain within the limit, and still get what you're after without having to pay extra for scrolling/zooming past all the junk graphics, etc.

Settle for less? Why are phones getting smaller, not bigger? The paradigm - Less is More! Same will go for content served to mobile users on the go - content formatting will evolve to load quickly and conveniently with use of access keys, etc. Walmart will follow suit as will others who want to keep or gain mobile market share.

BOFA.mobi - the butterfly effect has begun!

knivesforapro said:

i think mobi could do well if companies begin making sites suited for mobiles using the mobi address, like nokia could use .mobi and make tutorials on how to use your phone, etc, they just need to make it work with mobiles, i'm not a mobi fan, nor do i own a mobi domain but i wish you all well

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BOFA.mobi ... Polo.mobi, Amtrak.mobi, NBA.mobi, BMW.mobi, ... the tipping point will come, mTLD has yet to release thousands of premium generics and city/country/state .mobis ... who knows when, but keep in mind that Nokia pioneered the idea of .mobi years ago, so it's not just us .mobi fans here at NP that think .mobi makes sense!