.mobi .Mobi going NOWHERE FAST??

binaryman · Feb 12, 2007

Everyday there are reports about exciting things happening in the mobile world but never is .Mobi mentioned in even the smallest way. Look at these BBC headlines from today for instance.

"Hot picks: Future mobile trends"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6340103.stm

Now lets look at one of "trends" featured in this article.
http://www.tocmag.com/index.php
http://www.mxdata.co.uk/home.aspx
http://www.yospace.com/

Some questions now arise.
1) Why dont they have a .MOBI site??????????
2.)Why is .Mobi not mentioned as one of these "EXCITING NEW TRENDS"???

Also none of the other mentioned "Trends" have .Mobi addresses although are geared towards Mobile users.

Anyone care to comment?

Some more recent BBC "MOBILE" headlines:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6309593.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6155678.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4707964.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6232243.stm

Sam · Feb 13, 2007

binaryman said:
Again..My point is this. My point keeps getting missed. Why dont these tocmag guys and MX Data guys and YOSPACE guys use a .MOBI address? They are after all targeting the MOBILE market. Instead they use .com and .UK.CO. One would think that they would use the .MOBI extension as well if they saw a future in it. That said it is possible of course that they are unaware of the .MOBI domains.

http://www.tocmag.com/index.php
http://www.mxdata.co.uk/home.aspx
http://www.yospace.com/

Beacause maybe .com is the preffered choice for MOST of the big companies in the US ? Why would you use a .mobi instead of the .com, .com = instand recognition. .MOBI will leave readers with a huh.

Pred · Feb 13, 2007

yourrail don't even own the com
that's how forward thinking some uk companies are
& yes, i'm British :hehe:

binaryman · Feb 13, 2007

I notice that since my posting yesterday someone quickly went and regged TOCMAG.mobi

mjnels · Feb 13, 2007

damitssam said:
Beacause maybe .com is the preffered choice for MOST of the big companies in the US ? Why would you use a .mobi instead of the .com, .com = instand recognition. .MOBI will leave readers with a huh.

I dunno, ask the newspaper that just bought a L-L from me for 3k why they wanted a .mobi

who cares really... whoooo cares.

think of it as a vanity TLD, geezus..

UKByDesign · Feb 13, 2007

.Mobi is not going nowhere. It was invented for mobiles, eg. www.google.mobi to be used on mobile phones, but, when i browse the net on my phone (after paying the HUGE internet rates mobile companys charge) i go to the .com.

.mobi seems a bit to far fetched. Mobile internet will never be a BIG thing unless companys stop charging scandelous prices for there services.

Id never buy one, never will and to be frank, i dont care either

RogueWriter · Feb 13, 2007

scandiman said:
Or they are working on it. It's still very new.

.Travel has been out for over a year now and only a handful of sites are up and running. Many are impressive and serve the goals of .travel exceptionally well. Ever heard of Canada.travel? Check it out, it is a great website. I have yet to hear a report on .travel in the news but that tld is making headway in its profession regardless. Once their are 5,000 sites of this quality then the news will wake up and say, "wow, what is this .travel stuff, why didn't we pay attention to the 2,000 previous press releases we ignored?" It all takes time.

errrr...... .travel? How did I miss that?!

mjnels · Feb 13, 2007

UKByDesign said:
.Mobi is not going nowhere. It was invented for mobiles, eg. www.google.mobi to be used on mobile phones, but, when i browse the net on my phone (after paying the HUGE internet rates mobile companys charge) i go to the .com.

.mobi seems a bit to far fetched. Mobile internet will never be a BIG thing unless companys stop charging scandelous prices for there services.

Id never buy one, never will and to be frank, i dont care either

common mistake #2428583

Mobile Internet and .mobi are not the same, man.
mobile internet is going nowhere but sky high, .mobi is uncertain.

common mistake #2428584

your assuming rates for mobile internet will stay the same.......and...we...all..know..what...happens.......when you.. ass...bah i wont say it.

UKByDesign · Feb 13, 2007

mjnels said:
Mobile Internet and .mobi are not the same, man.

Well then i wouldnt even see the point in a .mobi if its not even connected to mobile internet.

No companys in the UK are making any change to lower prices of mobile internet charges and to be fair they wouldn't, for the simple reason is it would get abused by Pedofiles, Scammers, Hackers ect, because you could go out in the middle of nowere with a laptop and a phone and abuse the internet undetected.

1 UK Pound a MB, that isnt rediculous?

Ill stick with my ISPs WIFI roaming feature, i can use my laptop in built up areas for free.

mjnels · Feb 13, 2007

UKByDesign said:
Well then i wouldnt even see the point in a .mobi if its not even connected to mobile internet.

No companys in the UK are making any change to lower prices of mobile internet charges and to be fair they wouldn't, for the simple reason is it would get abused by Pedofiles, Scammers, Hackers ect, because you could go out in the middle of nowere with a laptop and a phone and abuse the internet undetected.

1 UK Pound a MB, that isnt rediculous?

Ill stick with my ISPs WIFI roaming feature, i can use my laptop in built up areas for free.

You mean they arnt making a change in mobile internet price right now.

scandiman · Feb 13, 2007

RogueWriter said:
errrr...... .travel? How did I miss that?!

.travel is not what you would call a domainers tld. The registry is very strict as to who can make a registration. You have to be in the travel industry and have the creds to prove it. Plus the domains are pricey. I know, I've been through it.

On the flip side, mobi is open to anyone and many people are seeing the potential and making large investments. Some call us fools, we'll know for sure in a few years. If the March auction goes well I'll be in the black and free to dev many excellent .mobi sites in my portfolio.

As an open comment, I'm still surprised by the contempt towards .mobi and its enthusiasts in these threads. Is the idea of the .mobi tld so preposterous to you? Why the constant arguments against it? What is your hidden agenda? What did we ever do to you?

goodkarmaco · Feb 13, 2007

Bottom line,

> mobi was a speculation from the beginning. Not a sure thing.

Those who jumped in may or may not win. Nobody knows the scope yet. One thing is for sure, the extension now has history.

That is one fact we cannot escape. That history shows for some domainers a very good profit indeed. Will that continue? That is all specualtive.

sirengirl · Mar 3, 2007

I do think we need to be patient. Most domainers know about .mobi by now, but end-users and the general public know very little if any. Honestly....mobi needs to develop anyway, more developed sites etc., It is likely it will catch on in Asia first. As a journalist I see it as a good story, but timing is everything. :cy:

GeoOwners · Mar 3, 2007

mjnels said:
I dunno, ask the newspaper that just bought a L-L from me for 3k why they wanted a .mobi

who cares really... whoooo cares.

think of it as a vanity TLD, geezus..

I agree with the vanity thing...if that's all it becomes it will still be cool...I would be happy selling my 42 .mobi for 2-300$ each to people just making vanity sites...after selling some the top names for 1k each that is

buckshotdots · Mar 3, 2007

UKByDesign said:
.

.mobi seems a bit to far fetched. Mobile internet will never be a BIG thing unless companys stop charging scandelous prices for there services.

Id never buy one, never will and to be frank, i dont care either

I think this link shows the way 4G is going -

"Fixed price mobile phone bills will be the norm for customers in the future, an analyst forecasted as mobile operators will be forced by technology to offer unlimited voice and data packages...."

http://www.itpro.co.uk/news/105786/netevents-4g-will-kill-off-persecond-mobile-billing.html

http://www.itpro.co.uk/news/105786/netevents-4g-will-kill-off-persecond-mobile-billing.html

Rubber Duck · Mar 4, 2007

sirengirl said:
I do think we need to be patient. Most domainers know about .mobi by now, but end-users and the general public know very little if any. Honestly....mobi needs to develop anyway, more developed sites etc., It is likely it will catch on in Asia first. As a journalist I see it as a good story, but timing is everything. :cy:

Mobile browsing is a reality in Asia. Why would they suddenly turn to dot Mobi?

aggieuk · Mar 4, 2007

bucks said:
IMO .mobi is taking very calculated steps to roll this extension out and is not ready for the masses just yet. To much publicity and not enough content would be sure disaster for this brand and turn people away before they even give it a chance.(or second chance)

On the other hand- even one week from now, after the convention is over in which they are playing a Big Role and even giving away a brand new car to some lucky winner that signs ups for a social networking forum exclusively hosted on their dot.mobi site WILL make news and will create a buzz where it's needed most at this time.

This is a long term investment for me and I'm willing to give them at least a full year before I even think about doubting how they plan to make .mobi a household name.

I keep hoping to see more mass media story's on this also, but I also realize they are not ready for the masses at this time.

This is the ONLY extension of it's kind and it's just a matter of time before .mobi becomes a household name.

Good post mate! Exactly my thinking! Rep coming your way! I totally agree, if .mobi released to the masses right here and now it would flop for sure. What the .mobi needs is a foundation if you like an infrastructure so the newbie mobile surfer will see things of interest, at the moment they will find nothing but my crap readings.mobi site and a couple of thousand sedo ppc pages! It's gonna be at least late 2007 or even mid 2008 bfore there is enough content to warrant a full blown advertising campaign to the public. For now .mobi should be advertised in trade mags and industry publications. It'll be a slow and painful wait but as they say 'the best things come to those who wait!!'

gou · Mar 4, 2007

Rubber Duck said:
Mobile browsing is a reality in Asia. Why would they suddenly turn to dot Mobi?

Hi, Rubber Duck. I've seen you around here and other forums. I know that you are familiar with IDN and the market in Asia.
You know that in Japan, keitaiyou sites are getting extremely popular. .Mobi is appropriate for those sites because it is easily identifiable and has greater availability than .com; not because there is an issue with the technology.
Check out My-tube.mobi for example. It's all about branding.

GeoOwners · Mar 4, 2007

Rubber Duck said:
Mobile browsing is a reality in Asia. Why would they suddenly turn to dot Mobi?

because it's like building a new small island right next to Manhattan...it's a nice new undeveloped , expensive piece of realestate...imo

Rubber Duck · Mar 4, 2007

dentalpro said:
I agree with the vanity thing...if that's all it becomes it will still be cool...I would be happy selling my 42 .mobi for 2-300$ each to people just making vanity sites...after selling some the top names for 1k each that is

The most rational explanation I have heard for dot Mobi so far.

Prices quoted also sound realistic.

aggieuk said:
Good post mate! Exactly my thinking! Rep coming your way! I totally agree, if .mobi released to the masses right here and now it would flop for sure. What the .mobi needs is a foundation if you like an infrastructure so the newbie mobile surfer will see things of interest, at the moment they will find nothing but my crap readings.mobi site and a couple of thousand sedo ppc pages! It's gonna be at least late 2007 or even mid 2008 bfore there is enough content to warrant a full blown advertising campaign to the public. For now .mobi should be advertised in trade mags and industry publications. It'll be a slow and painful wait but as they say 'the best things come to those who wait!!'

I would agree that it is going to be a long wait, if it is to be successful. If it is then there is going to valuable. You must, however, discount the very real risk of failure.

gou said:
Hi, Rubber Duck. I've seen you around here and other forums. I know that you are familiar with IDN and the market in Asia.
You know that in Japan, keitaiyou sites are getting extremely popular. .Mobi is appropriate for those sites because it is easily identifiable and has greater availability than .com; not because there is an issue with the technology.
Check out My-tube.mobi for example. It's all about branding.

The Asian markets are amongst the most advanced and most valuable mobile markets. This is often overlooked in the US that assumes it is always at the cutting edge. In this area is most definitely is not.

You are correct that it is all about branding. There is no technical reason why the dot Mobi extension should be adopted over any others. Branding is the key. Asia is the market. So why on God's Earth did they not launch as an IDN extension? The most important mobile market won't hardly be using ASCII domains at all by this time next year.

dentalpro said:
because it's like building a new small island right next to Manhattan...it's a nice new undeveloped , expensive piece of realestate...imo

And if that were such a good idea, why hasn't anyone built a new small island next to Manhatten?

iNod · Mar 4, 2007

Because the Chinese Cell Phones have 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 which symbolize ENGLISH characters. If you want to make a cell phone to suit the 2,000+ Chinese Characters go for it. Mobile is English sadly and that is the way it is going to be. Mind you a few Europeans might throw in there characters, because they are simpler and plus in order to sell service in Canada you need to have French symbols and other stuff

Plus English is SO damn boring.

But this isn't a IDN discussion.

Very intresting thread I must say, please keep it clean so we can keep it

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