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This is all pretty much speaking from my own experience with typo domains...some others may have a different experience with them, and so I wouldn't accept this advice as "fact". It's my opinion on the best way to approach getting typos.

First off, get typos of domains, not words. One of the reasons Pocker.com and Porker.com were able to sell for as much as they did were because Poker.com was an established, fairly high traffic site site in addition to poker being an elite keyword. Keep this in mind when selecting your target to get typos of. The Overture Keyword Selector Tool is often referenced around here as one of the most powerful domain tools, and indeed it is. Put your target domain in here and see how many results it gets. Compare a lot of different target domains you have, and the higher number is the better target for traffic since those are direct type-ins to Overture.

Secondly, though harder to judge, try to target domains in more lucrative markets. Poker is my favorite, because Fabulous pays $8-$20 per click on their poker parking. Casinos are even higher and are another good target. There are many high-paying keywords out there, and a good way for those who have a hard time figuring them out is the Overture Bid Tool. It shows the max bids of links placed on Overture, a PPC-based search engine. The higher the better of course.

So...onto the first revelation: The best typos I have are actually not typos. They are either misspellings or substitute related terms inserted in place of a word in the domain (like putting "auto" in place of "car" in the domain). I have about 30 poker names among which are many misspellings and "related term" names to a couple of poker sites, and it's generally those doing the best.

For the misspellings, target words that could be hard to spell. I was excited to see a commercial for UltimateBet.tv, knowing first that Ultimatebet.com/net was an established poker site and that the .tv was probably new to their arsenal, and seeing that "ultimate" is misspelled a LOT. The misspellings I got for that site have worked out rather well. An example of related term is a "typo" domain I got for DoylesRoom.com/net (another poker site). Doyle Brunson is who the site is named after, and a simple switcheroo of his last name in place of his first and I found myself some available names that have been making me a nice earning.

Some of the other typo names I own are in fact typos though. Again, based on how mine do, if you want to get typos, get missing letter typos or transposition typos instead of extra letter or wrong letter typos. Extra letter typos and wrong letter typos usually involve many situations with 1 single letter of the name. Missing letter involves only 1 situation per letter, and transpositions of letters right next to each other also involves only 1 situation. Don't do more than one transposition or missing letter at a time. Like "music"...search for usic, msic, musc, musi, umsic, msuic, muisc, and musci sooner than typos like mussic, nusic, mudic, etc.

That's all for now. Hope this post helps a bunch of you aspiring typo-ists! If any other people out there doing well with typos would like to chime in, feel free to do so.
 
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o.k., crooky, what was the best out of the bodog group? i'm dying to know.
 
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Really nice article, it told me pretty musch everything I needed to know about domain typo's.
 
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googol said:
o.k., crooky, what was the best out of the bodog group? i'm dying to know.

The best has been BogdogPoker.net, followed by BogodPoker.net, BogogPoker.net, and BodoggPoker.net. The rest have done barely anything. I'm surprised BodawgPoker.net has barely done anything...I figure people type it in as dawg so much with chatting that they might type it in the name, but I guess not!
 
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This thread is awesome Crooky
 
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parking services

i talked with fabulous.com about parking sites with them, and they said you have to have 100 or more domains to get started. is this true?

also, who are the best parking sites to use if you only have 1 or 2 names?

by the way, this is a very helpful thread, crooky! also, thanks to xonium?

sorry, xonium, that was supposed to be a ! after your name, not a ?

there is an ad at the top of the page right now for fabulous.com, and it says "market the hottest properties on the web" and make 15%. what the heck does that mean? don't they market the properties? how can the reader of the ad market anything and get 15%, and who pays them the 15%?
 
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googol said:
i talked with fabulous.com about parking sites with them, and they said you have to have 100 or more domains to get started. is this true?

also, who are the best parking sites to use if you only have 1 or 2 names?

by the way, this is a very helpful thread, crooky! also, thanks to xonium?

Fabulous does sometimes accept less than 100, but the portfolio has to be quality names, and not too much less than 100.

Besides them, Sedo and Namedrive are both okay. Sedo is good for the keyword targetting, and you generally can always dump trademark-issue names there whereas most places won't allow them. Namedrive pays out more though I think. I haven't tested Namedrive except for a couple of former proxy sites, and they're paying out about what Fab was on them, which isn't too bad.
 
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i think they let you in with 50+ names now

i got accepted yesterday with 54, with thanks to crooky for helping me out with a contact over at fab
 
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irishmat said:
i think they let you in with 50+ names now

i got accepted yesterday with 54, with thanks to crooky for helping me out with a contact over at fab

Awesome! Good luck there. I made over $200 in the last 4 days, but it looks like today is slowing down at about $19 so far. I'm hoping for over $1,000 for the month for the first time...I would very much like that!
 
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how many names have you got parked there?

i broke the $100 mark at ND last month which was a bit of a milestone for me
 
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I'm not a newbie, but this was a lot of help- thanks! :)
 
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crooky, how long did it take you to get to this point? where do you get most of your names? how much do you have invested in names up to this point? thanks a million. this is VERRRRRY helpful.

also, how many names does it take to get to this point? and what percentage of them return good money and what percentage of them were a waste of money?
 
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MrBarby said:
I made a tool to help automate this whole process: typogen.com

It follows your recommendations - missed letters and hitting the letter next to the correct one.

Mods, please delete this if you think it's spam, but I feel it's a useful addtion to this topic :)
Nice tool. but I will appreciate it more if you fix the script for longer than 14 letters domain.

I have this message
"You cannot search for domains longer than 14 characters!"
 
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googol said:
crooky, how long did it take you to get to this point? where do you get most of your names? how much do you have invested in names up to this point? thanks a million. this is VERRRRRY helpful.

also, how many names does it take to get to this point? and what percentage of them return good money and what percentage of them were a waste of money?

First off, I'll talk about only my typo names, since they are what's relevant to this thread. The first one I got was in late summer last year, a typo of GoldenPalace*com (now TM'd but they weren't back then). It had been among the list of expired names I was going through that day, and I knew from discussions on DiscussNames that the payouts for casino/poker clicks were huge on Fab, so I got it. It turned out to be fairly successful for a while, getting about $35 a month, maxing out once at about $70 in a 30 day period.

Since then I've gotten about 60 more poker/casino typos, not including 40 I just purchased a couple days ago (I'm waiting to see how they do as they just recently got categorized by Fabulous). I would say about 20% of the ones I've gotten do well, with most of those being UltimateBet*tv typos when I was fortunate enough to have seen a commercial for it when it was still fairly newly being advertised. The 40 I purchased a couple days ago were also after a commercial. I won't say for which place until I see how the typos do. I wouldn't want to say it so that someone would emphatically run out and get typos that wind up doing squat.

Anyhow, I don't use a program or anything to get the typos, just the advice at the beginning of this thread, which is more or less trial & error on my part with the DoylesRoom.com typos I got, as most of them have done squat, but the few doing well do pretty well.

googol said:
how much do you have invested in names up to this point?

Speaking for my typos, you could say that the initial $6.75 for the first typo I got funded everything...the amount I got pretty much almost paid for the DoylesRoom typos I got, which pretty much paid for the rest of it self, a bunch of failed Poker4Ever typos and the UltimateBet typos, which have paid for the last bunch of typos I got, and of course I've made more than what I've put in. Otherwise, I guess total money put in would be about $600 or so (half of that being 10 .tv names, the other half being 50 .com/.net mixed)

Speaking for everything else, if I take out all the sales and parking revenue and whatnot I've made, I think it comes to about $20,000 or so over the course of the last 2 and a half years that I've put into domain names. However, after about $23,000 or so that I've made back from sales and parking revenue, I still have about $15,000 worth of the names that I've put in money for. I still own every single name I've purchased from someone else rather than regged, and I've spent over $10,000 purchasing names from others, so that's where most of the expenses are still left, though I'm confident I'll get much more than that back from them.
 
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mis_chiff said:
So, would pokrhand.com be considered a typo? or rather...a good typo?
hmmm more like a fumble typo than a mistype - mistypes would be keeping the word length the same.
 
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June earnings: $2,357.04 :)
 
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Question

What about coffe.us i think it is a great typo...or not?
 
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thanks for the advice
 
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One thing to add: A television commercial does not always mean high traffic is going on already on the site you're getting typos of. I more or less already knew it and got my recent slew of typos (for VegasPoker247) because they on their site that they had an advertising team at the WSOP, so at least IMO they are eager to get their site going, and so I got my typos despite no indications of high traffic (breaking one of my own rules). Granted, I have a whole year to make my money on the names, but at of yet, I've gotten all of 1 click on over 70 names in the 2 weeks I've had them. Another month of OVT came out, and still, no OVT w/ext for VegasPoker247 in June either. Thankfully I have a friend that has met their reps at the WSOP and he says they are looking to get a lot larger, so let's hope! But yea, it's a lot larger gamble to do what I did on those than to go after a site that has traffic indications, and in general that's what I would advise. And ALWAYS make sure they are NOT TM'D. :)
 
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