Programming Resource Database

Several ways you could market this. I sent a PM, but will share my thoughts here as well.

1) If you sold it as a personal reference; by that, I mean if you created a windows application to access the database content, and sold it as sort of a desktop reference tool, you might get $99.00 and bulk sell it. I'm thinking in terms of the cost of a few books bought at Amazon based on the content.

2) $300 to bulk sell it to potential web content providers looking to establish a community/site with this sort of content. In raw mySQL form, or even with some PHP behind it to break it down in categories.

I think you have a marketable resource. Unique? Somewhat, but I wouldn't hold out for a "highest bidder." If you feel you will not run into copyright issues, or people coming behind you saying "That was my article/submission and you didn't have my permission to compile it" then I would mass market it.

Of course, I'm simply giving you my perspective on it, so take it with a grain of salt.

Wade I really appreciate your input . That's a :kickass: comment.

I think I'll populate the database by creating script directories and give it a try eh

Thanks

Best wishes OnlyPHP!

I think most people would like free advertising. If they think it is a copyright infrigdment or whatever..you just have to simply remove them.

I dont think your doing anything different than google.
Free advertising IMO.

That's what i was trying to say
Thanks identity

I can't see any similarity with what google is doing.

You are saying that your time is worth money, but you ain't showing that respect for hotscripts editors who have gone through various screening processes to get a quality index.

Wether you manually collected the info by going to hotscripts.com with your browser, or if you sent a spider to collect it doesn't make much of a difference from my view.

Each listing on the hotscripts.com site is most probably to short and non-exclusive to be copyrighted. But the whole index; or even one listing inside a category of 30+ links (and their descriptions etc), would afaik be protected by the compilation copyrights.

yEA just have a membership like you said.

I find this very interesting actually. I have a friend who made a script to GET all the info from hotscripts.com's database. He then used the email field to email all the posters about their scripts, and tell them to post on his new site.

I sold him the domain: scriptsindex.net for the site. He had about...3000 sign ups within the first week (from replies to the emails).

HotScripts.com found out about this, and even though he wasnt using their content ON his site, he was using the email field FOR his site. This is ILLEGAL!

I dont know if you directly copied anyhitng or stole content, I'm just telling you what has happened before.

Hey Josh! How did your friend get access to hotscripts.com's database? I didn't think that someone could just write a script and run it on their server and have it access a (most likely) password protected database on another server. It just doesn't seem doable to me.

Originally posted by Light
Hey Josh! How did your friend get access to hotscripts.com's database? I didn't think that someone could just write a script and run it on their server and have it access a (most likely) password protected database on another server. It just doesn't seem doable to me.

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I think it was a bot

How comes that he collected whole emails ? It's not possible because I mostly visit newly added sites on HotScripts and most of them only have Contact forms so you can't direct mail them and others have email pattern like : webmaster-at-sitenamehere.com . Not like [email protected] .
So he won't have any chance to direct mail them.
Yes , he may have collected them with Email Fetching programs but Hotscripts cant do anything about them only the people who received those mails can complain about SPAM.

One more thing : the scripts were not collected only from Hotscripts. There are many other resource indexes such as resourceindex.com , scriptsearch.com , scriptz.com and many others.

My opinion: If you only pulled the URLs from these websites, you're probably more than ok (though I'm not a lawyer). If you went a step further and also pulled "category, description, and price" from them as well... then you're pretty much ripping them off and can probably equate your data as selling off the back of a truck somewhere. --Meaning, the descriptions especially could be unique to many of these sites, and not constitute anything you've legally had a right to translate. HotScripts may well have "copyright" indictators built into its database ("fake" websites that exist solely to detect the act of copying from them). In such a case, anyone purchasing your derivative work may be liable for theft of HotScripts' intellectual property.

While you may have spent what you consider a "long time" compiling information, I'm pretty sure these websites have spent a longer time (over the course of their existance) collecting the data. Certainly tricky business. I remember starting a database for websites, and setting a "launch" target of 100 entries across different categories. The website then began to grow on its own, but I continued to ad more sites as time went along. It was a very labor intensive process, but time helped. As a passively promoted project, it now has over 369 links and continues to grow regularly... but it wasn't done by compiling links from others. If someone came a copied all my links and unique descriptions, I would not appreciate it.

~ Nexus

Nexus thank you for the comment. You maybe right however think from another point of view :
Isn't it right to collect information from internet and serve them ?

You're right about HotScripts and their editors (other resource indexes also) I'm running resource indexes also and i know what you mean.

But if you look from this point of view everything is ok :

It's right to collect information from internet and provide/sell them to users/webmasters.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

(BTW : Not only HotScripts- Other resource indexes was visited to collect information also)

Originally posted by OnlyPhp.Com
But if you look from this point of view everything is ok :
It's right to collect information from internet and provide/sell them to users/webmasters.
Correct me if i'm wrong.

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I think you're wrong... It's all technical, and again... I'm no lawyer, so I'm only going to comment in detail in very small type, just for reference at the end of this post. I do sympathize, though.

~ Nexus

I think it is a much more complicated matter than that sentence implies. The only protections one may have regarding the transcription of copyrighted material (and it is a good assumption that all works are copyrighted unless explicitly released to the public domain), are the protections made available under the Fair Use Act.
http://www.utsystem.edu/ogc/intellectualproperty/copypol2.htm#test
Criteria:

• What is the character of the use?
• What is the nature of the work to be used?
• How much of the work will you use?
• What effect would this use have on the market for the original or for permissions if the use were widespread?

I think your usage runs counter to the intent of the act. Something like "Google" or "Archive.org" does not seek to compete with the works they archive and make available in a new form. Something like your database is a direct competitor to the original works it borrows from.

Thanks for the comments Nexus .

I'm curious. What if you were to go to sites such as hotscripts, resource index, etc. Then click through to the website of the person whose script is listed on there and from there send an email to that person saying "I have a new script resource index and would like to request you to take a moment to list your script on my site." Would that be OK? Would that be SPAM?

I don't think that would be spam (personally) because it's like a link exchange request . I'm sure others will call it so however i don't have a mailing list or such so I'm not sending emails in bulk.
I just visit some sites and when i see a useful resource listed on hotscripts , scriptsearch etc. I request them to add their listings however I don't send it to all of them , only the useful ones i see or the ones i tried before.
My requests are sent to provide webmasters some useful resources.
I think if i crawled those sites and fetched emails later on sent them email in bulk that would be spam however what i do is a request.