new gTLD .xyz premium domains sold for $500

[anunt]

gifts.xyz
flowers.xyz
baby.xyz
debt.xyz
funds.xyz
tour.xyz
beer.xyz
doctor.xyz
about.xyz
jewelry.xyz

And many more premium .xyz domains sold for around $500 or less on sav.com

Swetha sells much worse .xyz domain names for over $50k each

something is not right here and nobody is talking about this

 

[MediaCode]

What is so web3 about these?

bailout.xyz - $19,888
homepage.xyz - $60,000
quest.xyz - $69,888
pluto.xyz - $50,904
paramount.xyz - $45,000
mural.xyz - $39,888
collective.xyz - $37,000
squid.xyz - $34,888
anagram.xyz - $29,888
otherside.xyz - $29,888
dexterity.xyz - $29,888
parasol.xyz - $29,888
kylin.xyz - $28,394
campground.xyz - $27,888
kindred.xyz - $27,888
agora.xyz - $27,888
arcade.xyz - $25,500
aperture.xyz - $19,888
runway.xyz - $19,888
tiptop.xyz - $15,000
daylight.xyz - $14,888
common.xyz - $14,888

Most of Swetha's names above are great brandable names for a Web3 startup. That's why wealthy Web3 companies are buying these kinds of names for these prices. Otherside.xyz is now used by Yuga Labs, the biggest name in NFTs. Paramount, Quest, Aperture, Kindred, Parasol, Anagram, etc. are all great brandables for Web3 companies.

These are all lousy brandable names for a Web3 startup:

gifts.xyz
flowers.xyz
baby.xyz
debt.xyz
funds.xyz
tour.xyz
beer.xyz
doctor.xyz
about.xyz
jewelry.xyz

These are merely descriptive, categorical dictionary words that convey nothing "cool" or "edgy" like most of Swetha's sales above do. Different English words convey different vibes to different audiences. The Web3 audience clearly likes Swetha's names, which represent less than 2% of the 20,000 .xyz domain names she registered with renewal fees grandfathered in years ago at lower rates when the extension was just getting started.

Anyone who owns 20,000 domain names is going to have sales that just stumble in on a regular but random basis. It's just statistical probability. Couple that with the astute choice of words she made years ago for many of her names, some of the randomness goes away to reveal higher volume of sales at higher prices, which she has increased as Web3 demand for .xyz has increased.

We welcome Swetha's higher and higher priced sales to help us establish strong sales comps for our own .xyz portfolio which is only ~25 today.

 

[hawkeye]

please, what’s the difference between a premium vs standard renewal?

A lot more money!

 

[Bob Hawkes]

And many more premium .xyz domains sold for around $500 or less on sav.com

Almost all domain sales at Sav are wholesale acquisitions by domain investors. The prices must reflect the fact the name might not sell retail for some time, or at all, and allow for profit by the domain investor.

Swetha sales, and the retail xyz sales by others that have been reported, are almost exclusively inbound retail sales to end users wanting that specific name.

The two cannot be compared. It is exactly like saying the prices at expired domain auctions, or here on NamePros, are less than retail sales at one of the big marketplaces, so something is amiss. It isn't. Would you buy a domain name at the same price you plan to sell it for?

One of the evaluators, NameWorth, make this clear in a useful way. For one of my .com domain names they give the worth as $19,500 if a potential user came to me seeking that name. However, the exact same name is valued at $263 at liquidation level, meaning that is a reasonable price if I need to sell quickly at a 7 day auction. It depends on type of name how different the two numbers will be, but they will always be substantially different.

Bob

 

[YairDD]

Damn you people are jealous.

 

[biggie]

Yes. Again, look at the companies getting behind XYZ. They're virtual, crypto, nft. A 'real world' company would never use a .XYZ.

The general public doesn't want, identify or recognise the extension. No-one wants to use flowers.xyz to order or sell flowers. EM random Keywords ending in .XYZ don't work.

Hi

i'm not pushing .xyz, but what you're saying is not true

http://www.sweet-creation.xyz/
http://horizonflorist.xyz/
https://shoranflower.xyz/
https://cartersflorist.xyz/
http://minselflorist.xyz/
http://mariesfloral.xyz/?i=1

imo....

 

[Bob Hawkes]

this is about .xyz, not .com or any appraisal tool
.com don't have premium renewal costs, so how is that relevant?

Thanks for your reply. I was addressing the aspect that in xyz these auction prices are different from the announced retail sales, pointing out same could be said in another extension. Just browse the NamePros completed sales thread and tons of examples with big difference between acquisition and final prices.

The other points made earlier I agree with, of course. I presume most or all of the names in the OP list carry a premium renewal. That means that it is hard to make the economics work as a domain investor, so they will sell over and over wholesale at not that much different than renewal price probably. I believe only 1 of Swetha's huge portfolio carry a premium renewal.

Also, I agree with those who earlier pointed out that there is also a difference in the type of names that are selling in xyz at end user prices are in vast majority of cases not product/service match names but rather a bit less common words that would make a good brand for a web3 startup. This was the one point that most struck me when I analyzed the XYZ retail sales data.

The ENS integration that .xyz got in early gave the extension a leg up on other extensions in the emerging web3 world. Now many other TLDs, including com, can be similarly integrated, but the advantage seems to carry over now that people have seen web3 companies on xyz.

On the Sav auctions people are buying a lot of exact match type names, and some brandable type names, I presume hoping that the market for xyz will broaden. We will have to wait and see if that happens.

Anyway the relevance I saw was to stress that acquisition and selling prices are different in any extension. Therefore disagree with OP that something is wrong.

It is okay if not everyone agrees there is relevance. I would have to check, but I think I have now and then seen some posts on NamePros that I personally did not see as relevant to the topic.

Bob

 

[anunt]

My point is swetha is posting $50k sales of xyz weekly and those domains suck compared to sav.com xyz domains that sold for $500.
I understand the renewal fees are higher with sav xyz domains but they are 100x better and still should sell for $50k with $5k renewal fee.
Why haven’t we heard of sav selling their premium xyz names for $50k. They are 100x better and renewals are worth it.
You can buy sav xyz domains for $500 and pay $3000 renewal for 15 years…still cheaper than $50k swetha xyz domains.
No i am not jealous…just trying to figure out the truth. Something does not seem right here.
And only reason people are selling xyz names for $3k is because swetha posting $50k sales.
Why don’t we hear $50k xyz sales from other people who are holding 100x better xyz domains but not selling any of them not even for $10k.
Some of the xyz domains swetha posting ..you can probably buy the dot com for $50k
Makes no sense.

 

[DNGear]

Premium domains propaganda or repeated nuisance.

Lets say we wanted to hold 100 premium domains which are having avg renewal 1000 usd.
We have to spend 100*1000 = 100K per year.
Avg sell through rate is 1% or 1.5% or 2% if we are lucky.
So we have to sell a domain for more than 100K to breakeven. TBH, Thats not viable right now.
We will get the time when we sell them for more than 100K. Then we could hold some premium domains.
I have informed so many times i dont have any premium domain, except 1.
I think this SAV seller has been buying all the premium domains and putting them in the auction to get short term profits. We should ask that seller how its working for them.

 

[LucidDomains]

You're missing the point - there's a big difference of the renewal fees. Surely you would have figured that out by now.

 

[private123]

And many more premium .xyz domains sold for around $500 or less on sav.com

Swetha sells much worse .xyz domain names for over $50k each

Difference between reseller and end-user ( also premium renewal vs standard renewal )

 

[Armageddon]

gifts.xyz
flowers.xyz
baby.xyz
debt.xyz
funds.xyz
tour.xyz
beer.xyz
doctor.xyz
about.xyz
jewelry.xyz

And many more premium .xyz domains sold for around $500 or less on sav.com

Swetha sells much worse .xyz domain names for over $50k each

something is not right here and nobody is talking about this

please, what’s the difference between a premium vs standard renewal?

As example: DOCTOR.XYZ reg. price is 3000 USD / renew price is 3000 USD / transfer is also 3000 USD
Standard renew price for a regular .XYZ is 9.99 USD

 

[Jimmysun]

Thanks for your reply. I was addressing the aspect that in xyz these auction prices are different from the announced retail sales, pointing out same could be said in another extension. Just browse the NamePros completed sales thread and tons of examples with big difference between acquisition and final prices.

The other points made earlier I agree with, of course. I presume most or all of the names in the OP list carry a premium renewal. That means that it is hard to make the economics work as a domain investor, so they will sell over and over wholesale at not that much different than renewal price probably. I believe only 1 of Swetha's huge portfolio carry a premium renewal.

Also, I agree with those who earlier pointed out that there is also a difference in the type of names that are selling in xyz at end user prices are in vast majority of cases not product/service match names but rather a bit less common words that would make a good brand for a web3 startup. This was the one point that most struck me when I analyzed the XYZ retail sales data.

The ENS integration that .xyz got in early gave the extension a leg up on other extensions in the emerging web3 world. Now many other TLDs, including com, can be similarly integrated, but the advantage seems to carry over now that people have seen web3 companies on xyz.

On the Sav auctions people are buying a lot of exact match type names, and some brandable type names, I presume hoping that the market for xyz will broaden. We will have to wait and see if that happens.

Anyway the relevance I saw was to stress that acquisition and selling prices are different in any extension. Therefore disagree with OP that something is wrong.

It is okay if not everyone agrees there is relevance. I would have to check, but I think I have now and then seen some posts on NamePros that I personally did not see as relevant to the topic.

Bob

Thank you Bob you've made enough clear points about the situation about .xyz, even people carrying a lower IQ can understand it, but you will eventually get tired by some people keep bringing up the same topics and asking dumb questions over and over again with full of jealousy.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Talk in this thread about what is a good name in .xyz versus what are top keywords in other extensions.

This link gives the 80 publicly-announced on NameBio, sales in .xyz from the last 12 months only that were $10,000 plus in value. They total $2.6 million, an average price of $32,400.

https://namebio.com/?s==ATM1UDM5YzM

For the most part, they are dictionary, not too long, single words, mainly nouns or verbs. In general they are not exact product/service match names. They are names that if you speak or write make a good brand for a company, and could mean many things, rather than a specific product of a company. Some of them are not particularly common words, while others are very common.

There are exceptions, of course. This is what has sold in the recent past at retail prices, and future may not necessarily show same characteristics.https://namebio.com/?s==ATM1UDM5YzM

Bob

PS I had a look at characteristics of what sold in XYZ a few months ago. Looked at type of name, length, creation year, number of other TLDs, etc.
https://www.namepros.com/blog/past-12-months-of-xyz-a-look-at-the-data.1264760/

 

[HotKey]

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Yes. Again, look at the companies getting behind XYZ. They're virtual, crypto, nft. A 'real world' company would never use a .XYZ.

The general public doesn't want, identify or recognise the extension. No-one wants to use flowers.xyz to order or sell flowers. EM random Keywords ending in .XYZ don't work.

What, in your eyes, is a "real world" company? A business that only uses dot-com? A business that has a bricks-and-mortar location? Due enlighten.

 

[HotKey]

Selling products, goods ,services. Ordinary, everyday life needs. Can be b&m but digital goods/services b2c as well. Much broader actually but you get the gist.

It's not about the domain extension. It's about what your audience understands. The general public doesn't understand much besides gtld and cctld so if you target a mainstream audience your best bet is a .com (or cctld).

I hope that helps

Well, the audience understands what they came to watch. Maybe they even paid tickets for it. If, as you say, it's not about the domain extension but what they understand, then perhaps we should be more in touch with expectations. And I respect buyer's decisions, even if I don't agree with them.

There may even come a time where I understand the "why" behind the buy.

 

[Jimmysun]

Yes. Again, look at the companies getting behind XYZ. They're virtual, crypto, nft. A 'real world' company would never use a .XYZ.

The general public doesn't want, identify or recognise the extension. No-one wants to use flowers.xyz to order or sell flowers. EM random Keywords ending in .XYZ don't work.

yeah, web3 is a breakthrough point to the market for xyz, it's going in the opposite path to com while those premium renewal pricing was basically based on famous keyword in com, they’re unlikely be used in meatspace at first place, but it doesn't mean those names are not useful because everything can be generated in virtual reality, they should have been waiting longer to sell， meanwhile I believe one day they will worth a lot, when .xyz taking up more shares in market and people will think it's also a good idea use .xyz in real world commodities.

 

[BRANDERX]

gifts.xyz
flowers.xyz
baby.xyz
debt.xyz
funds.xyz
tour.xyz
beer.xyz
doctor.xyz
about.xyz
jewelry.xyz

And many more premium .xyz domains sold for around $500 or less on sav.com

Swetha sells much worse .xyz domain names for over $50k each

something is not right here and nobody is talking about this

Everybody's talking about it, probably the most discussed topic on NP in recent months.

Something like what exactly?

 

[kornjaca]

It might have something to do with renewal fees which are delusional for names like this, while Swetha said once in one of discussions that all of her names have standard renewal fees.

 

[branding]

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How you assumed that this good keywords but not in xyz !!?
Can you explain why Swetha names are good and suitable for xyz ?!

.

Yes. Again, look at the companies getting behind XYZ. They're virtual, crypto, nft. A 'real world' company would never use a .XYZ.

The general public doesn't want, identify or recognise the extension. No-one wants to use flowers.xyz to order or sell flowers. EM random Keywords ending in .XYZ don't work.

Swethas names are general, brandabe and emds for companies in a certain niche. Own a big enough portfolio to dominate the extension and you're set. She's had the foresight, now she's reaping what she has sown.

Not saying those KWs are without value, what's killing them are the premium renewals. Watch them drop after a year. $500 is worth the gamble for a year when there's a certain hype about an extension, when renewals kick in, reality kicks in.

 

[branding]

And I respect buyer's decisions, even if I don't agree with them

Same here. Whatever works is fine. I'm extension agnostic, if that's even a thing .

 

[biggie]

Hi

a lot of spinsters, trying to spin a specific usage for an extension
when proof is shown, that contradicts their statements, then they throw other smack into the argument.

read what's written

imo...

 

[anunt]

What is so web3 about these?

bailout.xyz - $19,888
homepage.xyz - $60,000
quest.xyz - $69,888
pluto.xyz - $50,904
paramount.xyz - $45,000
mural.xyz - $39,888
collective.xyz - $37,000
squid.xyz - $34,888
anagram.xyz - $29,888
otherside.xyz - $29,888
dexterity.xyz - $29,888
parasol.xyz - $29,888
kylin.xyz - $28,394
campground.xyz - $27,888
kindred.xyz - $27,888
agora.xyz - $27,888
arcade.xyz - $25,500
aperture.xyz - $19,888
runway.xyz - $19,888
tiptop.xyz - $15,000
daylight.xyz - $14,888
common.xyz - $14,888

 

[thewebking]

Difference between reseller and end-user ( also premium renewal vs standard renewal )

please, what’s the difference between a premium vs standard renewal?

 

[branding]

What, in your eyes, is a "real world" company? A business that only uses dot-com? A business that has a bricks-and-mortar location? Due enlighten.

Selling products, goods ,services. Ordinary, everyday life needs. Can be b&m but digital goods/services b2c as well. Much broader actually but you get the gist.

It's not about the domain extension. It's about what your audience understands. The general public doesn't understand much besides gtld and cctld so if you target a mainstream audience your best bet is a .com (or cctld).

I hope that helps