poll Would you take the Covid Vaccine when it becomes available

[oldtimer]

The only way to end this Pandemic is if the majority of the people around the World get vaccinated.

It's amazing that several vaccines have already been developed in record time and thus far they all show very good results as far as creating some level of immunity against Covid19 without causing any major side effects and supposedly even if those who have been vaccinated come down with the disease it won't be at the more severe levels that require hospitalization.

There are many companies that are working on the vaccine although the top contenders currently are Moderna, Pfizer, and AstraZeneca:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...d-vaccine-heres-what-we-know-them/6308571002/


I personally would be first in line to get the vaccine as I am in the older category with some history of heart problems and although I believe that everyone should be free to make their own choices, but this will only be effective in stopping the Pandemic if the majority of the people (like over 80% or so) get vaccinated.

Please do your own research about the vaccines and indicate your choice in the poll (visible to all) and post any justification for your decision as to whether you are going to get the vaccine or not below.

IMO

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[Compassion]

Dr Buttar was named one of the top 50 doctors in the nation....


His information about vaccines is accurate.

 

[Compassion]

https://archive.org/details/b21357067

Jenner and vaccination : a strange chapter of medical history by Charles Creighton MD

 

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https://learntherisk.org/
Learn The Risk

 

[Compassion]

Vaccine Ingredients
https://learntherisk.org/vaccines/ingredients/


Aluminum
Known to cause brain damage at all doses, linked to ALZHEIMER’S DISEASE, dementia, seizures, autoimmune issues, SIDs and cancer. This toxin accumulates in the brain and causes more damage with each dose.

Formaldehyde [formalin]
Known to cause CANCER in humans. Probable gastrointestinal, liver, respiratory, immune, nerve and reproductive system POISON. Banned from injectables in most European countries.

Beta-Propiolactone
Known to cause CANCER. Suspected gastroin- testinal, liver, nerve and respiratory, skin and sense organ POISON.

Gentamicin Sulphate & Polymyxin B [antibiotics]
ALLERGIC reactions can range from mild to life-threatening.

Genetically Modified Yeast, Bacterial and Viral DNA & Dairy/Egg Components
Can be incorporated into the recipient’s DNA and cause unknown GENETIC MUTATIONS. This also includes: eggs, dairy, this leads to allergies.

Glutaraldehyde
Poisonous if ingested. Causes BIRTH DEFECTS in animals.

Latex Rubber
Can cause life-threatening allergic reactions

Peanut & Soy Bean Oil
Linked to nut and soy allergies

Human and Animal Cells
Human DNA from aborted BABIES. Pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brains, dog kidneys, cow hearts, monkey kidneys, chick embryos, calf serum, sheep blood & more. Linked to childhood leukemia and diabetes.

Mercury [thimerosal]
One of the most toxic substances known. Even if a thermometer breaks, the building is cleared and HAZMAT is called. Tiny doses cause damage to the brain, gut, liver, bone marrow, nervous system and/or kidneys. Linked to autoimmune disorders, and neurological disorders like AUTISM.

Monosodium Glutamate [MSG]
A toxic chemical that is linked to birth defects, developmental delays and infertility. Banned in Europe.

Neomycin Sulphate [antibiotic]
Interferes with vitamin B6 absorption which can lead to epilepsy and brain damage. Allergic reactions can range from mild to life -threatening.

Phenol/Phenoxyethanol [2-PE]
Used as anti-freeze. TOXIC to all cells and capable of destroying the immune system.

Polysorbate 80 & 20
Known to cause CANCER in animals and linked to numerous autoimmune issues and infertility.

Tri Butylphosphate
Potentially toxic to the kidney and nervous system.




VACCINE INGREDIENT SUMMARY:

Adenovirus sucrose, D-mannose, D-fructose, dextrose, potassium phosphate, plasdone C, anhydrous lactose, micro crystalline cellulose, polacrilin potassium, magnesium stearate, cellulose acetate phthalate, alcohol, acetone, castor oil, FD&C Yellow #6 aluminum lake dye, human serum albumin, fetal bovine serum, sodium bicarbonate, human-diploid fibroblast cell cultures (WI-38), Dulbecco’s Modified Eagle’s Medium, monosodium glutamate March 2011
Anthrax (Biothrax) aluminum hydroxide, benzethonium chloride, formaldehyde, amino acids, vitamins, inorganic salts and sugars May 2012
BCG (Tice) glycerin, asparagine, citric acid, potassium phosphate, magnesium sulfate, Iron ammonium citrate, lactose February 2009
DT (Sanofi) aluminum potassium sulfate, peptone, bovine extract, formaldehyde, thimerosal (trace), modified Mueller and Miller medium, ammonium sulfate December 2005
DTaP (Daptacel) aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, 2-Phenoxyethanol, Stainer-Scholte medium, modified Mueller’s growth medium, modified Mueller-Miller casamino acid medium (without beef heart infusion), dimethyl 1-beta-cyclodextrin, ammonium sulfate October 2013
DTaP (Infanrix) formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, polysorbate 80, Fenton medium (containing bovine extract), modified Latham medium (derived from bovine casein), modified Stainer-Scholte liquid medium November 2013
DTaP-IPV (Kinrix) formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, Vero (monkey kidney) cells, calf serum, lactalbumin hydrolysate, polysorbate 80, neomycin sulfate, polymyxin B, Fenton medium (containing bovine extract), modified Latham medium (derived from bovine casein), modified Stainer-Scholte liquid medium November 2013
DTaP-HepB-IPV (Pediarix) formaldehyde, gluteraldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, lactalbumin hydrolysate, polysorbate 80, neomycin sulfate, polymyxin B, yeast protein, calf serum, Fenton medium (containing bovine extract), modified Latham medium (derived from bovine casein), modified Stainer-Scholte liquid medium, Vero (monkey kidney) cells November 2013
DTaP-IPV/Hib (Pentacel) aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80, formaldehyde, sucrose, gutaraldehyde, bovine serum albumin, 2-phenoxethanol, neomycin, polymyxin B sulfate, Mueller’s Growth Medium, Mueller-Miller casamino acid medium (without beef heart infusion), Stainer-Scholte medium (modified by the addition of casamino acids and dimethyl-beta- cyclodextrin), MRC-5 (human diploid) cells, CMRL 1969 medium (supplemented with calf serum), ammonium sulfate, and medium 199 October 2013
Hib (ActHIB) ammonium sulfate, formalin, sucrose, Modified Mueller and Miller medium January 2014
Hib (Hiberix) formaldehyde, lactose, semi-synthetic medium March 2012
Hib (PedvaxHIB) aluminum hydroxphosphate sulfate, ethanol, enzymes, phenol, detergent, complex fermentation medium December 2010
Hib/Hep B (Comvax) yeast (vaccine contains no detectable yeast DNA), nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, hemin chloride, soy peptone, dextrose, mineral salts, amino acids, formaldehyde, potassium aluminum sulfate, amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, sodium borate, phenol, ethanol, enzymes, detergent December 2010
Hib/Mening. CY (MenHibrix) tris (trometamol)-HCl, sucrose, formaldehyde, synthetic medium, semi- synthetic medium 2012
Hep A (Havrix) aluminum hydroxide, amino acid supplement, polysorbate 20, formalin, neomycin sulfate, MRC-5 cellular proteins December 2013
Hep A (Vaqta) amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, bovine albumin, formaldehyde, neomycin, sodium borate, MRC-5 (human diploid) cells February 2014
Hep B (Engerix-B) aluminum hydroxide, yeast protein, phosphate buffers, sodium dihydrogen phosphate dihydrate December 2013
Hep B (Recombivax) yeast protein, soy peptone, dextrose, amino acids, mineral salts, potassium aluminum sulfate, amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, formaldehyde, phosphate buffer May 2014
Hep A/Hep B (Twinrix) formalin, yeast protein, aluminum phosphate, aluminum hydroxide, amino acids, phosphate buffer, polysorbate 20, neomycin sulfate, MRC-5 human diploid cells August 2012
Human Papillomavirus (HPV) (Cerverix) vitamins, amino acids, lipids, mineral salts, aluminum hydroxide, sodium dihydrogen phosphate dehydrate, 3-O-desacyl-4’ Monophosphoryl lipid A, insect cell, bacterial, and viral protein November 2013
Human Papillomavirus (HPV) (Gardasil) yeast protein, vitamins, amino acids, mineral salts, carbohydrates, amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, L-histidine, polysorbate 80, sodium borate June 2014
Human Papillomavirus (HPV) (Gardasil 9) yeast protein, vitamins, amino acids, mineral salts, carbohydrates, amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, L-histidine, polysorbate 80, sodium borate December 2014
Influenza (Afluria) beta-propiolactone, thimerosol (multi-dose vials only), monobasic sodium phosphate, dibasic sodium phosphate, monobasic potassium phosphate, potassium chloride, calcium chloride, sodium taurodeoxycholate, neomycin sulfate, polymyxin B, egg protein, sucrose December 2013
Influenza (Agriflu) egg proteins, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, cetyltrimethylammonium bromide, neomycin sulfate, kanamycin, barium 2013
Influenza (Fluarix) Trivalent and Quadrivalent octoxynol-10 (Triton X- Į-tocopheryl hydrogen succinate, polysorbate 80 (Tween 80), hydrocortisone, gentamicin sulfate, ovalbumin, formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate, sucrose, phosphate buffer June 2014
Influenza (Flublok) monobasic sodium phosphate, dibasic sodium phosphate, polysorbate 20, baculovirus and host cell proteins, baculovirus and cellular DNA, Triton X-100, lipids, vitamins, amino acids, mineral salts March 2014
Influenza (Flucelvax) Madin Darby Canine Kidney (MDCK) cell protein, MDCK cell DNA, beta-propiolactone, phosphate buffer March 2014
Influenza (Fluvirin) nonylphenol ethoxylate, thimerosal (multi-dose vial–trace only in prefilled syringe), polymyxin, neomycin, beta-propiolactone, egg proteins, phosphate buffer February 2014
Influenza (Flulaval) Trivalent and Quadrivalent thimerosal, formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate, egg proteins, phosphate buffer February 2013
Influenza (Fluzone: Standard (Trivalent and Quadrivalent), High-Dose, & Intradermal) formaldehyde, octylphenol ethoxylate (Triton X-100), gelatin (standard trivalent formulation only), thimerosal (multi-dose vial only) , egg protein, phosphate buffers, sucrose 2014
Influenza (FluMist) Quadrivalent ethylene diamine tetraacetic acid (EDTA), monosodium glutamate, hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, arginine, sucrose, dibasic potassium phosphate, monobasic potassium phosphate, gentamicin sulfate, egg protein July 2013
Japanese Encephalitis (Ixiaro) aluminum hydroxide, Vero cells, protamine sulfate, formaldehyde, bovine serum albumin, sodium metabisulphite, sucrose May 2013
Meningococcal (MCV4- Menactra) formaldehyde, phosphate buffers, Mueller Hinton agar, Watson Scherp media, Modified Mueller and Miller medium, detergent, alcohol, ammonium sulfate April 2013
Meningococcal (MCV4- Menveo) formaldehyde, amino acids, yeast extract, Franz complete medium, CY medium August 2013
Meningococcal (MPSV4- Menomune) thimerosal (multi-dose vial only), lactose, Mueller Hinton casein agar, Watson Scherp media, detergent, alcohol April 2013
Meningococcal (MenB – Bexsero) aluminum hydroxide, E. coli, histidine, sucrose, deoxycholate, kanomycin 2015
Meningococcal (MenB – Trumenba) polysorbate 80, histodine, E. coli, fermentation growth media October 2015
MMR (MMR-II) Medium 199 (vitamins, amino acids, fetal bovine serum, sucrose, glutamate) , Minimum Essential Medium, phosphate, recombinant human albumin, neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin, chick embryo cell culture, WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts June 2014
MMRV (ProQuad) sucrose, hydrolyzed gelatin, sorbitol, monosodium L-glutamate, sodium phosphate dibasic, human albumin, sodium bicarbonate, potassium phosphate monobasic, potassium chloride, potassium phosphate dibasic, neomycin, bovine calf serum, chick embryo cell culture, WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts, MRC-5 cells March 2014
Pneumococcal (PCV13 – Prevnar 13) casamino acids, yeast, ammonium sulfate, Polysorbate 80, succinate buffer, aluminum phosphate, soy peptone broth January 2014
Pneumococcal (PPSV-23 – Pneumovax) phenol May 2014
Polio (IPV – Ipol) 2-phenoxyethanol, formaldehyde, neomycin, streptomycin, polymyxin B, monkey kidney cells, Eagle MEM modified medium, calf serum protein, Medium 199 May 2013
Rabies (Imovax) Human albumin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red indicator, MRC-5 human diploid cells, beta-propriolactone April 2013
Rabies (RabAvert) ȕ-propiolactone, potassium glutamate, chicken protein, egg protein, neomycin, chlortetracycline, amphotericin B, human serum albumin, polygeline (processed bovine gelatin), sodium EDTA, bovine serum March 2012
Rotavirus (RotaTeq) sucrose, sodium citrate, sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate, sodium hydroxide, polysorbate 80, cell culture media, fetal bovine serum, vero cells [DNA from porcine circoviruses (PCV) 1 and 2 has been detected in RotaTeq. PCV-1 and PCV-2 are not known to cause disease in humans.] June 2013
Rotavirus (Rotarix) amino acids, dextran, sorbitol, sucrose, calcium carbonate, xanthan, Dulbecco’s Modified Eagle Medium (potassium chloride, magnesium sulfate, ferric (III) nitrate, sodium phosphate, sodium pyruvate, D- glucose, concentrated vitamin solution, L-cystine, L-tyrosine, amino acids solution, L-glutamine, calcium chloride, sodium hydrogenocarbonate, and phenol red) [Porcine circovirus type 1 (PCV-1) is present in Rotarix. PCV-1 is not known to cause disease in humans.] May 2014
Smallpox (Vaccinia – ACAM2000) human serum albumin, mannitol, neomycin, glycerin, polymyxin B, phenol, Vero cells, HEPES September 2009
Td (Decavac) aluminum potassium sulfate, peptone, formaldehyde, thimerosal, bovine muscle tissue (US sourced), Mueller and Miller medium, ammonium sulfate March 2011
Td (Tenivac) aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, modified Mueller-Miller casamino acid medium without beef heart infusion, ammonium sulfate April 2013
Td (Mass Biologics) aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, thimerosal (trace), ammonium phosphate, modified Mueller’s media (containing bovine extracts) February 2011
Tdap (Adacel) aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, 2-phenoxyethanol, ammonium sulfate, Stainer-Scholte medium, dimethyl-beta-cyclodextrin, modified Mueller’s growth medium, Mueller-Miller casamino acid medium (without beef heart infusion) March 2014
Tdap (Boostrix) formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, polysorbate 80 (Tween 80), Latham medium derived from bovine casein, Fenton medium containing a bovine extract, Stainer-Scholte liquid medium February 2013
Typhoid (inactivated – Typhim Vi) hexadecyltrimethylammonium bromide, formaldehyde, phenol, polydimethylsiloxane, disodium phosphate, monosodium phosphate, semi-synthetic medium March 2014
Typhoid (oral – Ty21a) yeast extract, casein, dextrose, galactose, sucrose, ascorbic acid, amino acids, lactose, magnesium stearate. gelatin September 2013
Varicella (Varivax) sucrose, phosphate, glutamate, gelatin, monosodium L-glutamate, sodium phosphate dibasic, potassium phosphate monobasic, potassium chloride, sodium phosphate monobasic, potassium chloride, EDTA, residual components of MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein, neomycin, fetal bovine serum, human diploid cell cultures (WI-38), embryonic guinea pig cell cultures, human embryonic lung cultures March 2014
Yellow Fever (YF-Vax) sorbitol, gelatin, egg protein May 2013
Zoster (Shingles – Zostavax) sucrose, hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, monosodium L-glutamate, sodium phosphate dibasic, potassium phosphate monobasic, neomycin, potassium chloride, residual components of MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein, bovine calf serum February 2014
A table listing vaccine excipients and media by excipient can be found in: Grabenstein JD. ImmunoFacts: Vaccines and Immunologic Drugs – 2013

(38th revision). St Louis, MO: Wolters Kluwer Health, 2012.

 

[Compassion]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/pbDyJl3SbRmc/
Vaxxed From Cover Up To Catastrophe 2016

 

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[branding]

Most definitely. But it won't be anytime soon unfortunately.

The shots will be free over here, as they should be. It's not that costly actually. The astrazenica/Oxford vaccin costs under €4, that's half a domain

I applaud them for distributing that vaccin not for profit. Makes me wonder how much Moderna and Pfizer will profit from this pandemic.

 

[Compassion]

biased @oldtimer ?




Seven yes answers for us to choose from?

Wholeness is only possible from balance ya know....

Homeostasis.....

Golden Mean Ratio.....

Balance.


..only
One no answer?






How about adding a:

No - I know vaccines are a dangerous eugenics tool.

 

[NickB]

Most definitely. But it won't be anytime soon unfortunately.

The shots will be free over here, as they should be. It's not that costly actually. The astrazenica/Oxford vaccin costs under €4, that's half a domain

I applaud them for distributing that vaccin not for profit. Makes me wonder how much Moderna and Pfizer will profit from this pandemic.

Read somewhere the profits will run into the billions......

I for one will be getting it and advising family and friends to do so - anything else is irresponsible.... imo

If you don't want it fine, just don't keep ramming promotional shite down peoples throat to try and get your point across - to much of this going on......

 

[rh2000]

They have to give minorities the vaccine first for this #plandemic hoax.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1277162642105348096

 

[RogueWriter]

Do we have evidence as to long time side effects? No. At least not yet.

Do we have evidence that the people are dying from covid alone (which mass media is telling us)? What if the increased number of deaths is caused by something else (which may co-exist, and/or be distributed together with covid, in some, but not all, countries and territories)? Any logical explanation why the South American country of Uruguay (for example) is somehow "winning" the battle so far, but a close South American country of Peru is definitely losing it? They both did the same lockdowns, face masks etc.. There must be something why Uruguay is safer now. Why the virus is so selective - one continent, close countries, a lot of connections, similar human genetics... ? This extra thing occurs in Peru, but not in Uruguay. And it is not the virus by itself (as binary logic allows to suggest).

Here's the evidence short term for not taking it: you might die, you might live but have long term side effects, such as lung, heart and brain damage which implies increased risk of death in the future. This is not the flu, it does more damage on a permanent basis to your body.

 

[rh2000]

Sums it up. #Plandemic

https://twitter.com/x/status/1207681997612748801

 

[Compassion]

Sums it up. #Plandemic

https://twitter.com/x/status/1207681997612748801

Show attachment 175638

Gates loves to deceive and lie and we know he uses stats to do it.

 

[oldtimer]

..only
One no answer?

How about adding a:

No - I know vaccines are a dangerous eugenics tool.

Well looks like the majority of the people want to get the vaccine, but for those who don't they can vote no and then justify their choice by posting a comment here.

As far as this vaccine being dangerous you realize that this is a whole new method and technology that they are using so some of the old articles for the old vaccines might not apply here.

As far as I know there is not even one medication on the market that does not have some kind of a side effect at some level, but we as a society still choose to take meditations because the good that they do for us outweighs any harm that they might cause.

Even if the vaccine can cut the mortality levels in half we are still talking about millions of people that could be saved in the next 5 years. But I am somehow optimistic and believe that the mortality rate might be cut by over 90% once everyone gets vaccinated.

So far in the trials no one has shown any extremely severe side effects from the vaccines, but even if a very small percentage of people like 0.001% develop some really bad side effects I am sure that most people still want to get the vaccine. After all you can't have any medication that is perfect, we all have to weight our personal risks and benefits chances and make a decision based on what's best for us just like when people choose to have any other medical procedure which we all know are not completely risk free.

Now I have been thinking that since there are not going to be enough vaccines being produced right now to cover everyone perhaps some of the Elites around the World have started a campaign to put doubts in our minds about getting the vaccine so that there will be enough to go around for themselves.

Although I believe that it's best to hear the point of views from all sides in a civil discussion and let people decide for themselves what's best to do, but we still have to shine a light on any hidden agendas, propaganda, or misleading and incorrect data so that people can make an informed decision either way.

Please note: the numbers used above are just for the purpose of demonstrating my points and are not based on any official data.

IMO

 

[oldtimer]

In case you all didn't know you can click on the number shown for each voting option in the poll to see the list of members who have voted for a certain choice.

There is no shame to vote NO , and we all should respect everyone's choices, although I vish for everyone who has voted to make a comment and tell us why they have voted a certain way, I am very much interested to know the logic behind people's decision and I always try to deal with opposing views with an open mind because even though they might be in the minority, but there is always a chance that they might be right and as such no one should be attacked or belittled for expressing their opinion in a civil discussion no matter how wrong they might look in the eyes of others.

Those who follow this thread can make up their own minds as to who's right or who's wrong after they hear from all sides and analyze all the data and sources for themselves, but everyone should be allowed to express their point of view no matter how contradictory or wrong it might seem to others, we can't shut people up, we can only make rebuttals that are based on logic and put up factual data from legitimate sources to contradict any opinion that we think is wrong or that we think might be based on propaganda or hidden agendas.

So if you have an opinion either way there is no reason for anyone to remain silent, just remember the rules for this thread and keep all discussions and engagements on the constructive, professional, and respectful side.

IMO

 

[lennco]

I would not tell anyone not to take it.

But, I personally will not take it.

I haven't had a Flue shot in over 30 years and have not got the flu in over 30 years.
I will wear my mask everywhere and follow guidelines for a long time to come and I am fine with that.

IF everyone just wore the damn Mask there would be no need for a vaccine....imho

 

[Compassion]

https://christiansfortruth.com/form...ovid-vaccines-may-cause-infertility-in-women/

Former Top Pfizer Scientist Michael Yeadon Claims COVID Vaccines May Cause Infertility In Women

 

[Compassion]

Well looks like the majority of the people want to get the vaccine,
IMO

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/lo...e-first-in-line-for-covid-19-vaccine/2453279/


More Than 66% of healthcare workers in one study say they plan to not take the CV19 Vaccine


“I’ve heard the term "guinea pig" thrown around, that they don't want to be the guinea pig for an untested vaccine," explained Michael Kennedy, a representative for the California Nurses Association.

 

[Compassion]

Now I have been thinking

Wishful thinking.

Vaccines have always been a tool for sterilizing people and making them sicker and inducing cancer to show up later.

Vaccines have never been about making us healthy and preventing dis-ease.

This is George Orwell 'Merica right now. Isn't it fairly obvious even to you @oldtimer? Ever read 1984? Ever watched Wag the Dog?

 

[Cannuck]

Most people in the West already have plenty of vaccine in them already - injections from childhood to adulthood, including that passed up the food chain from the food we eat (commercial meat and eggs). Why would the Covid vaccine be any different - either it's polluted or it's safe, depending on your viewpoint. What about conspiracy/eugenics theories? Ok, some new vaccines will use CRISPR (genome editing DNA - rewriting the code of life), and with every powerful technology, in life sciences or elsewhere, there's a possibility of misuse, but many will have little choice - either due to lack of knowledge, will or the ability to change and/or fear. Vaccines are the 'quick fix' that the majority will embrace IMO.

 

[Compassion]

Vaccines are the 'quick fix' that the majority will embrace IMO.

I think that opinion is based on the fact that people are run down from the globalists crashing the economy with the Covid scam and destroying our lives for nearly a year.....

and they just want any semblance of normalcy back- so that is why many would 'embrace' the vax.

But even those who thought vaccines were awesome a year ago are starting to see the truth amidst the propaganda and chaos.

 

[Compassion]

https://christiansfortruth.com/mode...lready-knew-the-animals-would-sicken-and-die/

Moderna And Pfizer Skipped Animal Trials On mRNA COVID Vaccines Because They Already Knew The Animals Would Sicken And Die



"This kind of vaccine — this modified messenger RNA, modified DNA vaccine — they have tried them in the past 20 years on animal studies. And they’ve been terrible results — because in these studies, when the animals got the vaccine — at first they had robust immune systems — great antibodies, T cell response — great, good, looking good. Then they challenged them with that virus or that bacteria — and every time the animals got sicker or died much more than the placebo group — because the body has something called the “cytokine storm” — it actually saw this — and had a more aggressive reaction — and it attacked its own lungs, attacked its own liver — had almost a sepsis response in the body. So we can expect that — and I think that’s why they skipped the animal trials with this [COVID] vaccine — they don’t want anyone to know that."

 

[Compassion]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VuQAgKxmVhWl/

Dr. Carrie Madej with Dr. Andrew Kaufman on vaccines , hydrogel, and secret government programs

 

[oldtimer]

I would not tell anyone not to take it.

But, I personally will not take it.

I haven't had a Flue shot in over 30 years and have not got the flu in over 30 years.
I will wear my mask everywhere and follow guidelines for a long time to come and I am fine with that.

IF everyone just wore the damn Mask there would be no need for a vaccine....imho

Good to hear from you,

When one of your dogs was sick a few years back didn't you try every medicine and medical procedure that was available at the time to try to save him. Wouldn't you have tried a vaccine on your dog if there was a chance that it could have saved him.

Wishful thinking.

Vaccines have always been a tool for sterilizing people and making them sicker and inducing cancer to show up later.

Vaccines have never been about making us healthy and preventing dis-ease.

This is George Orwell 'Merica right now. Isn't it fairly obvious even to you @oldtimer? Ever read 1984? Ever watched Wag the Dog?

I have started getting flu and Pneumonia vaccines in the past few years ever since I developed a heart condition. I arrived at that decision logically after I found out that a simple cold or flu can kill someone who is vulnerable. And so I will also take the Covid Vaccine as soon as it becomes available.

Better to be a live guinea pig than a mule who died because of being too stubborn.

PS: I wasn't taking any vaccines for my whole adult life when I hadn't developed a heart condition yet.

IMO

 

[lennco]

Good to hear from you,

When one of your dogs was sick a few years back didn't you try every medicine and medical procedure that was available at the time to try to save him. Wouldn't you have tried a vaccine on your dog if there was a chance that it could have saved him.

I sure would and I did. But to try these "medicines" at the end of one's life to try and save their life is one thing, it's a another thing when you are still healthy.

It was a Chemical (Round up) that gave him the cancer. I know that for a fact.

But listen to this, my dog before him was a female pit, she was my baby.
When my dog was 9 years old my wife went and got her a rabies shot, first rabies shot since she was a pup.

They gave it to her the shot in her backside near her butt/tail.
One year later she got a cancerous tumor in the exact same spot she got the rabies vaccine.
We tried everything to save her, spent almost $5k in vet bills but nothing worked.

When that happen I did a net search and found info where rabies vaccines could cause cancer in some dogs.

I "Personally" don't feel safe with vaccines, but to each his own.