Would you develop your own project with ChiP letter domain?

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We all know that in the market of liquid domains Chinese Premiums command a premium.

We also know that it happened within last year and many of us follow the lead.

But to understand the future trends, it is also important to answer the question: is there any intrinsic value for westerners in the domains that have ChiP (not WeChiP) letters?

Would you prefer to start a project with something like znxw that is supposedly worth $2,500 or something more pronounceable/communicable in the West that is priced currently at $300-500 if you were given an option to get one of the names for your project free of charge (no option to resell)?
 
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you'd better choose the promounceable domain name in order to develop your project in western country,
but if most of your clients are chinese or you want to do business in China, apprently down to earth to choose a ChiP is good for you.
 
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The Chinese domain market is quite large and hot. So a domain investor should cater to the taste of his customer groups. If he wants to do buisness with Chinese, ChiP is the best choice. :xf.wink:
 
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The "West" is a completely different market. You dont win over consumers with a name like rtf.com or nso.com or whatever. It's not catchy enough. Brandables are much better, something like yahoo, zynga, trovoli, gemalto, ... etc

At least thats my opinion on LLL or LLLL for Western markets. I will always develop my projects on generic names or brandables. Personally I prefer the bold generic names ;)

But I would consider using a LLLL name for small projects to put the name on a flyer
 
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wtf.com or rtfm.com would be better of course than rtf.com ))))))))))

yahoo is great name, not sure about zynga.
 
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Yes but that are generic names, everyone knows they are acronyms and what they stand for. Its why names like ETF.com are worth 1 million plus because the acronyms are meaningful. They can be found in a dictionary at times
 
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Or you can make them mean something. Like bing.com )
OVH.com for hosting. Occidental becam Oxy (oxy.com) and nobody remembers now about the original name.
 
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On a more serious note, I agree with Oliver that brandables can be great and often prefer dictionary words. But, I have got to admit, symmetry of LLL.COM is just gorgeous )
 
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We all know that in the market of liquid domains Chinese Premiums command a premium.

We also know that it happened within last year and many of us follow the lead.

But to understand the future trends, it is also important to answer the question: is there any intrinsic value for westerners in the domains that have ChiP (not WeChiP) letters?

Would you prefer to start a project with something like znxw that is supposedly worth $2,500 or something more pronounceable/communicable in the West that is priced currently at $300-500 if you were given an option to get one of the names for your project free of charge (no option to resell)?
If "znxw" represented a meaningful acronym for the project, then yes. Otherwise there would be no point. High CHIP floor prices do not correspond in any way with high/any end user value, and does not give previously meaningless letter combinations any value now just because they suddenly cost minimum $2500.

CHIPs are supposed to be pinyin acronyms, each letter corresponding to a Chinese character. So while these Chinese premiums can have meaning in a Chinese context, they are still just meaningless sequences of consonants for western end users.

And at this stage, the whole premium Chinese letters and numbers boom has lost sight of Chinese end users almost entirely. Are end users going to pay end user prices for millions newly hand registered 7N.com, 8N.com, 9N.com, 5L.com 4L.org that already are starting to have increasingly higher reseller prices? (and .ORG extension is almost non-existent in terms of actual use in China, so the 4L.ORG "CHIPSs" thing does not make any logical sense if you think about end user potential. However, the market simply decided to buyout and push up the prices for this extension, and that's what happened). And domains that actually have end user potential have so high reseller prices now that most end users can't afford them anyway.

While this boom is all about CHIPs, the Chinese companies (larger ones at least) often use acronyms of their English names as their domain name, and not acronyms of their Chinese names, and these are often acronyms with non CHIP letters in them (if you have an acronym for the whole Chinese name of a company, it would usually be very long, and would require far more letters to represent each Chinese character if you have a letter for each of the Chinese characters in the whole Chinese name - often 6-12+ letters - although in many cases they may use a shorter form, i.e. just the first 4 pinyin letters of their Chinese name). English acronyms like this are common:
Industrial and Commercial Bank of China = ICBC.com.cn
China National Offshore Oil Corporation = cnooc.com.cn
Dongfeng Motor Corporation = dfmc.com.cn

These companies of course have Chinese names too, and could have chosen to use a CHIP acronym if they wished.

Some people have compared the Chinese domains boom to a form of cryptocurrency for Chinese, an alternative trading platform to the stock market, simply a way of money laundering (even gambling in Macau has actively been used for money laundering up until more tight government controls recently - Vegas gambling revenue is tiny compared to Macaus) as well as a way of moving funds out of China/switching RMB into US$, a pyramid scheme (since some domainers in the know early on bought up thousands of domains in bulk, while increasingly many new-comers enter the market, paying increasingly inflated prices for these hand regs) and many other things. While I can't say which of these are more correct or accurate description of what is going on, I think these factors play a more central part in this equation than "end users" do right now.
 
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@Arca
Are you saying that Chinese non-profits don't use .org or .org.cn name? Why is it meaningless for them?
 
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@Arca
Are you saying that Chinese non-profits don't use .org or .org.cn name? Why is it meaningless for them?
They are certainly used by some Chinese organizations, and I’m sure a quick search can bring up some Chinese organizations that use a .org of this, but the point I am trying to make is that there is no wide adoption/use of .org in China. While in the “west” .org is strongly associated with non-profit organizations, and is often a clear go to extension for such organizations this is not really the case in China. A non profit organization might as well choose any other common extension, like .com, .cn, or even something like .ngo.cn, which I have seen some organizations use. Also, under the CCP, the kind of organizations and culture that is associated with .org in the West has not been allowed to grow and flourish, which also limits potential end user demand.

Even though you can find some organizations in China that actually use .org, this doesn't necessarily equate a strong demand for these, which there is not, and the current demand for these does not justify a buyout of 4L.ORG Chips. These are not going to be held and and sold to non profit organization end users. They are going to be traded among domainers and pumped/dumped. Anyone who disagrees with this, you are of course free to hold all your 4L.ORG CHIPs for the next 5-10 years, and wait for Chinese end-users to come along and purchase them.
 
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Oh, well, .org does not really need China. It was enough that they helped with establishing new sets of rules for the game and created the floors for .com and everything trickles down from there.

There are 200+ countries in the world and there literally millions of non-profits, agencies, causes etc. and .org is destination of choice. Many of those have 4L acronym that they use, but often take longer domain because the name was not available at the moment or overly priced or they did not understand it. There are bund of LLLassociation, LLLfoundation, LLLcouncil, LLLboard, LLLorganization registered in .org and they are great potential end users.

But that was not quite the point of discussion. Basically what I am leading at is that, unless it is wechip, the pure Chinese Premiums are of minimum use in the west and are limited to 1/5 of planets population and 1/20 or so of global economy.
 
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What about the 5 letter LLLLL CHIP...
 
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