plaggypig said:
shockie: IANAL but shouldn't the Treasury Dept. or whoever first have to get a judge to sign some kind of order sanctioning the seizure of property, rather than Enom marching to the beat of their own drum and acting as both the judge, jury and executioner? There is due process of law to follow.
In an ideal world, that would be nice.
But in the real world, some U.S. government agencies are empowered by some
laws to act on certain issues. Look at the FTC website and see how many are
resolved
before going to court.
Discussed lengthly:
http://www.namepros.com/legal-issues-and-disputes/440542-us-agency-shuts-down-web-sites.html
http://www.circleid.com/posts/83420_controversial_domain_names/
Some additional clues:
http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/legal/statute.shtml
http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/programs/ascii/cuba.txt
http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/legal/index.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Emergency_Economic_Powers_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_with_the_Enemy_Act
This one might also explain what happened in Mr. Marshall's case:
http://www.domainnamenews.com/up-to-the-minute/us-government-blacklists-80-tourism-websites/1470
If my experience with the Treasury Dept. is any guide, itโs not that they told eNom to block a site. Instead, they probably told eNom that it was illegal to do trade with Cuba (or profit from it), and that since this travel did business there, and eNom profited as the registrar of the name, eNom might be violating U.S. law.
And since it so happens there's a specific law dealing with the specific issue of
banning U.S.-based providers from doing business with countries in their OFAC
list or so, what other choice does eNom or any other registrar have if they're
faced with this sort of thing? Why should they risk spending thousands in just
legal fees alone over an $8 to $10 a year contract?
If eNom has the financial muscle of, say, Google, can afford the costs, and is
not potentially violating any law, then they might be in a better position to tell
a government agency to get a court order first. But...they don't.
And if you're running a business, then eventually served a court order involving
you and a client of yours, don't you think you're obligated to follow that or be
ready to fight and spend costs you may not be able to recoup? What will you
do if you do fight and lose?
IANAL either, but Mr. Lim's email:
Please see
http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/julius-baer-bank-and-trust-v-wikileaks
in particular the order of the 29th of February disolving the TRO
Only applies to the parties involved in that case. It doesn't expand to eNom,
which isn't a party to that specific dispute.
I can certainly understand why Wikileaks is doing this. But I agree with shockie
this is potentially misguided and misdirected.
While some will likely go along with Wikileaks on this one, chances are that lots
of people and companies will still do business with eNom as long as they're fully
happy with them. Business is business, after all.
Offtopic: if you think it's tough enough getting the NamePros community to stand behind this,
imagine what ICANN's supposedly trying to do with the multiple constituencies representing a
variety of interests. I don't envy them on that score.
Isn't NamePros an ETP also? No offense, RJ! :D