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Why and how Epik allows CoronaVirus domains to be listed

Located in Domain Marketplace Reviews, started by Rob Monster, Mar 26, 2020

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  1. Ostrados

    Ostrados Entrepreneur VIP

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    @Rob Monster you missed it big time, this is not about free speach or free trade or whatever "free" term you will through in , this about an unethical practice that makes coronavirus domain investors no better than those who sell hand sanitizers & masks at astronomical prices, both are taking advantage of the epidemic by unethical monopoly.

    It is perfectly legal to buy coronavirus domains, but it is not ethical in current circumstances. We as human can distinguish between what is ethical and what is not.

    In these tough times all of us must help and contribute in fighting this virus, domainers must contribute by donating these domains to communities or at least leaving them unregistered so that others can use them to save lives. This is a duty not a favor, think about how many lives would have been saved if coronavirus domains were available at afordable prices, the economy is collapsing and yet some chose to sell epidemic related domains at 6500 these money could have been spent on medical equipments, masks, medicines..etc.
     
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  2. The Durfer

    The Durfer Top Contributor VIP Blue Account

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    Where does an entity stop being judge, jury, and executioner though also. Are they not just taking the issue on themselves and saying after we defend we attack with the same lesson. No, the domains are not the virus and vice versa, viruses are viruses. This one sucks!!! Love you, Memas and Papas!
     
  3. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    Well, FWIW, I just bought CoronaPrayer.com for $99 on Godaddy. I used an account credit that we had there. Godaddy apparently sells Corona domains still. And I am glad they do. The person who sold the domain had an asking price of $99 which I was fine to pay.

    I see that someone else is already using the plural for a multi-faith approach to model prayers:

    https://coronaprayers.com/

    I think that's great.

    Does anyone have a problem with that?
     
  4. wwwweb

    wwwweb Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    There are real consequences when you try to ban a very generic keyword, this is an actual heavily populated city in CA in itself, I am sure their are countless property, lawn service, pet care type names associated with it. I am sure it's great PR, but the bigger picture is who are you really hurting with all these bans.

    (Spanish for ''Crown'') is a city in Riverside County, California, United States. As of the 2010 census, the city had a population of 152,374, up from 124,966 at the 2000 census. The cities of Norco and Riverside lie to the north and northeast, respectively, Chino Hills and Yorba Linda to the northwest, and the Cleveland National Forest and the Santa Ana Mountains to the southwest, and unincorporated Riverside County along the rest of the border. Corona is approximately 48 miles (77 km) southeast of Los Angeles and 95 miles (153 km) north-northwest of San Diego.
     
  5. koolishman

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    Corona beer is taking a lot of flak these days.:xf.grin:
     
  6. Ostrados

    Ostrados Entrepreneur VIP

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    You still don't get it, don't you?

    It is unethical to profit from a global epidemic especially when economy is collapsing.. no example you will give will change that fact.

    What should domainers do? Stop registering coronavirus domains and donate what you already registered to community.

    I totally support Dan & Sedo decision to ban these domains, it was the right thing to do and Epik should follow there are no excuses!
     
  7. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    Actually, I am the one who gets it.

    Do you care for this?



    I don't.

    It is one thing to cancel a lot of mindless entertainment, and force people to cook at home and spend more time with their families.

    It is another thing to systematically take away the capacity for private enterprise to function or to treat responsible humans like mindless cattle.

    Those who think that a pandemic with 1-2% mortality rate is a license to roll out a worldwide police state are certainly empowered to do so.

    At the same time, I reserve the right to empower others to respond with:

    - Local news and information
    - Peer to peer commerce for goods that are in short supply
    - Prayer, counseling and encouragement

    At the end of the day, there are risks of emission (do something) just as their risks of omission (do nothing). Some providers have erred in favor of omission. Epik has a bit more faith in humanity.

    If you object to that decision, it is your prerogative to do so, However, don't think that this choice is without consequence.
     
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  8. Ostrados

    Ostrados Entrepreneur VIP

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    Totally off topic and not related at all to my points of discussion it is like you replying to entirely different posts.. Do you even read my posts?

    Realy Rob what are you doing here? It is not the time for marketing using viral controversy.. really it is not the proper time for this sh*t.

    You support coronavirus domains to be sold for $$$$ ?! Good for you.. It is free world you can do wherever you like, but stop trying to justify it as something ethical because it is not
     
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  9. Samer

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    You're letting emotions cloud your judgement.

    You say "unethical" Rob showed why CAN be ethical; numerous examples of positive Corona domain usages, "did you read his posts..?

    This will all pass, soon, like all the rest...hopefully. Meanwhile i implore you to check out a website that would be banned under your hard-line, zero-tolerance, "blanket-ban"

    https://covidvisualizer.com

    This wouldnt exist under your draconian regime. Youre the crowd DAN, Sedo, etc virtue-signal, grandstand try appease, lose something more important. not your definition of "ethics"!

    Samer
     
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  10. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    I can assure you that my reading comprehension is just fine.

    If you think it is ethical to force manufactured consensus through approved media outlets, that is your prerogative. I think otherwise. As long as domains are being used lawfully and responsibly, let them be used.
     
  11. Ostrados

    Ostrados Entrepreneur VIP

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    @Rob Monster

    One more try. Please answer these 2 questions with only "yes" or "no"

    1- Is it ethical to get advantage of a global pandemic by selling on demand sanitizers at 10x price?

    2- Is it ethical to get advantage of a global pandemic by selling on deman epidemic related domains at 100x reg price?

    Thanks
     
  12. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    You are conflating, throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    I will answers your questions:

    1. I don't judge them.

    2. I don't judge them.

    Now answer mine:

    Does the fact that there are criminals in society mean that we should lock up everyone?

    Do you know what that guy who sells that sanitizer for far above cost is doing with their profits?

    Do you understand that price is a free market safeguard against hoarding?
     
  13. Internet.Domains

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    When you start comparing a domain to hand sanitizer you know things have got out of hand....:xf.rolleyes:
     
  14. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    I see what you did there:

     
  15. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Dumb analogy. Additionally, that is a straw man argument as no reasonable person would ever seriously suggest that.

    I have mixed feelings on this. I am pro capitalism, to a point.

    There is a reason though in capitalism, there still needs to be rules. Some people just have very low morals and ethics, and without limits in place the system could be highly abused.

    Not really. If sanitizer is $50/bottle it just means the already richest people will have it and everyone else won't. The higher the price goes the fewer people have access to it.

    With that said there is clearly a difference between a tangible staple good, and an intangible good.
    You can't survive without food, medicine, water. You can survive without domains.

    Brad
     
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  16. Ostrados

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    You are unable to answer with simple yes/no means that there is no point in discussing with you, it is one way discussion, continue discussing with your own self until you satisfy your ego.

    I dont care about what they do with their profit. They should not sell it at high price in these conditions because lifes of thousands may depend on it! Their greed can be a reason that many die.

    Your inability to comprehend basic ethical concepts is unbelievable, thats why I will not reply more to this discussion.
     
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  17. Rob Monster

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    As stated prior, I would encourage folks to price with Make Offer pricing and tailor their response depending
    on who wants the domain. That is the ethical approach to pricing domains in this category.

    In my particular case, I owned UVSanitizer.com for many years. The appraised value was above $20K. I sold it for $6500 and was hoping to see it in use. So far it is still parked. I guess I sold it too cheap.

    The world is going to need as many entrepreneurs and capitalists as possible to get out of this self-propagated mess. When US employment hits 30%, you will be thankful for the ones who never gave up.
     
  18. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    That is a product domain that had value before this, will have value now, and in the future.

    I think there is a difference between buying a domain like that which is clearly not just playing on this pandemic, and to the amount of garbage that is being registered and peddled at the moment to try and profit directly off this pandemic.

    Brad
     
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  19. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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  20. HotKey

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    Ostrados, my man, you are equating junk domains to life and death. Monster is stepping up to the plate, and trust me, it's not about DN he's stepping up to.

    Do you honestly think anyone that's in dire straights with the covid gives two hoots about bogus corona domains registered by bandwagon trendees? They're going by advice of doctors. People that are prone to rumours, they will go to whatever lengths anyways to satisfy their appetite. Are these the people you want making your DN investing decisions for you? Come on now.
     
  21. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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    disgusting is the hype exploitation

    be it with hand sanitizers, domains

    or registars fishing for new customers
    for various services

    in order to save free speech
    or to save the world with religiousness
    or other hypocrite claims
     
  22. Ostrados

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    Someone can use these domains to help people during this deadly pandemic, others may use these domains to save lifes. When all coronavirus domains are taken, no option left but to pay $$$$, that money that will be spent by health organizations on domains worldwide could be saved to be spent on medical equipments to help infected people and save lifes!

    But selfish people will never see the full picture because they just dont care, they only care about their own profits. Ethics are not even relevant for many people, they just call it capitalism and move on. OMG
     
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  23. frank-germany

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  24. talking.domains

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    In hard times like these it's even more clear which people/companies exercise ethics, moral and human values in the first place. Thumbs up DAN.
     
  25. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    It is one thing to say: "please update your website to show this text. We would really appreciate it".

    It is another thing to say: "you must update your site immediately or your site won't resolve."

    The latter is censorship.
     

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