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What’s happened to my domain?

Labeled as advice in General Domain Discussion started by Blueforever, Nov 19, 2019.

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  1. xynames

    xynames XYNames.com PRO VIP

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    Afternic explained that No, the domain had not been listed for sale in my Afternic account but that the reason I received this email was
    “it appears that the current owner of the domain name has not updated the Whois information, and it still had your information. That is why the email; was sent. The domain has not been listed since 2017, when you sold it.”
     
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  2. Greenthumb

    Greenthumb Established Member

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    This is a tad scary to be honest.
     
  3. Joe Styler

    Joe Styler Aftermarket Product Manager GoDaddy Staff Afternic Staff PRO VIP

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    No that will not be the case.The registrar knows if you are the same owner or not who opted in the domain for sale and will cancel the fast transfer ability for the domain when ownership changes.
     
  4. Ja Kai

    Ja Kai Established Member

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    Then what happened here? @Joe Styler please end the speculation.
     
  5. Joe Styler

    Joe Styler Aftermarket Product Manager GoDaddy Staff Afternic Staff PRO VIP

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    Namesilo has already commented and been in touch with the OP it is really their prerogative to comment or not on what happened with the domain or the OP who has been in contact with them as well.
     
  6. Nikhil Jain

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  7. Ryan217

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    So it sounds like someone else listed it and @Blueforever accidentally clicked the opt-in link.

    Seems to me Afternic needs better verification system than just an email that an unsuspecting domain owner could click the link in not realizing what they did.
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2019
  8. Ja Kai

    Ja Kai Established Member

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    1) You said this
    This is contrary to what @Joe Styler said. I wish he would clarify, instead of towing the godaddy line - "yeah, someone ELSE must have done something wrong, like click on an email they were not supposed to click on".

    WHAT ABOUT godaddy not sending emails to people when the target email doesn't match the afternic account used to market the domain?
     
  9. Ja Kai

    Ja Kai Established Member

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    Can you imagine - Bank of America saying, "we sent you the wrong email, and when you clicked on it, we credited this random person's account $500 - Be careful next time when we send you emails we should not have sent".... REALLY? Is this what this has come to?
     
  10. Ryan217

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    That's my understanding based on what the op stated in his post I quoted.

    FWIW the opt in email comes from the registrar not Afternic so they dont know if it matches. Plus for me I do use a different email address for whois than I use for Afternic so that would be annoying if they made that restriction. The real fix is verify ownership via dns text record. Which will also simplify dealing with domains already listed as well. But @Joe Styler has already said that they wont do that because hes been told by others they dont want that. Like it's that hard to set a default DNS record in your registrar account...so instead we are left with be careful before you click links in emails you get (which with phishing and spear-phishing isn't a half bad idea, but every site always wanting to verify your email address by you clicking a link makes that common so I think for most casual internet users they are too trusting with clicking links) but they shouldn't be passing the buck like that.

    It seems real bad that someone can add a domain to their Afternic account and hope the owner, not knowing better, clicks the opt in link. Then "buy" the domain to steal it.
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2019
  11. Ja Kai

    Ja Kai Established Member

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    We all like the dns text record. He is probably going off HUGE domains and perhaps a few other whales. He - meaning godaddy - Kowtow to anyone bringing them the most $$$ - not the person who wants to do things the right way.

    Just look how they have screwed up their auction platform - Kowtowing to HUGE there as well.
     
  12. Ryan217

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    Shhh....don't tell @Joe Styler

     
  13. Blueforever

    Blueforever Established Member

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    Nothing as yet. Was told by afternic support to wait till after thanksgiving as offices will be closed. Have written to both namesilo and afternic. Just waiting for a reply.
     
  14. Abdullah Abdullah

    Abdullah Abdullah Top Member Epik.com Staff VIP

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    Please keep the community updated with how it goes. Thanks.
     
  15. Ja Kai

    Ja Kai Established Member

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    If godaddy/afternic weren't in the wrong - @Joe Styler would have said so. He hasn't said this - he has just danced.

    Like many things in life, the first step of fixing a problem, is recognizing that you indeed have a problem. Joe Styler and Godaddy and Afternic will not accept responsibility for anything.
     
  16. NameDeck

    NameDeck Design. Develop. Deploy. VIP

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    As long as we don't know all details regarding this specific case I won't comment on that.

    However, it's unfair to say Joe never accepts responsibility. He's just a DM away if you need issues fixed. I'm not a GoDaddy fan but Joe is an asset.
     
  17. Ja Kai

    Ja Kai Established Member

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    Well, then he should tell us what happened, so we know how to protect our holdings. He already said the domain was transferred via afternic.
     
  18. NameDeck

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    Maybe he can, maybe he can't. He cannot be accountable for everything that goes wrong at GD and affiliated companies.

    He checks up on a lot of things that go wrong, even when technically it's not his job to do so.

    I'm with all of you that TXT record verification should be mandatory. This thing is a mess. Still... Joe aint GD and he's a bigger asset to this community than most.

    Again, I'm not a GD fan but Joe definitely is a guy I want to have around so when sh*t hits the fence, I know who will help, or try to, as far as within his capabilities.
     
  19. Kenneth Smith

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    what the former owner might have did is. gave you permission on the domain and it let it show the domain your account but was able to keep access to the domain which mean he didn't give you 100% power.
     
  20. IPBFlippers

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    This is really scary to read and follow up with. I can imagine the stress and time already wasted on this. The domain business is risky!
     
  21. Haroon Basha

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    AS OF THIS MOMENT:

    Domain Name: TOKENIZEEVERYTHING.COM
    Registry Domain ID: 2328582026_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
    Registrar URL: http://networksolutions.com
    Updated Date: 2019-11-18T18:25:43Z
    Creation Date: 2018-11-01T21:29:18Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2021-11-01T21:29:18Z
    Registrar: Network Solutions, LLC
    Registrar IANA ID: 2
    Reseller:
    Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
    Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
    Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: Shoop Texas Termite and pest control
    Registrant Organization: Shoop Texas Termite and pest control
    Registrant Street: 2703 Avenue U
    Registrant City: Wichita Falls
    Registrant State/Province: TX
    Registrant Postal Code: 76308-1733
    Registrant Country: US
    Registrant Phone: +1.9402322689
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax: 9402322689
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: [email protected]
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: Shoop Texas Termite and pest control
    Admin Organization: Shoop Texas Termite and pest control
    Admin Street: 2703 Avenue U
    Admin City: Wichita Falls
    Admin State/Province: TX
    Admin Postal Code: 76308-1733
    Admin Country: US
    Admin Phone: +1.9402322689
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax: 9402322689
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email: [email protected]
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: Shoop Texas Termite and pest control
    Tech Organization: Shoop Texas Termite and pest control
    Tech Street: 2703 Avenue U
    Tech City: Wichita Falls
    Tech State/Province: TX
    Tech Postal Code: 76308-1733
    Tech Country: US
    Tech Phone: +1.9402322689
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax: 9402322689
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email: [email protected]
    Name Server: NS63.WORLDNIC.COM
    Name Server: NS64.WORLDNIC.COM
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8003337680
    URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
    >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2019-12-10T15:56:11Z <<<
     
  22. saucey

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    @Blueforever - Interesting and unfortunate string of events!! So sorry to hear that you have found yourself wrapped up in this debacle.

    Perhaps, it's fate. I mean, I'm sure if you are the rightful owner, you will eventually get your name back.... and now as an added bonus, you've found out the name of an exterminator in Texas!

    If you should ever find yourself in Texas and in need of an exterminator... you've got it nailed!! How many people can say that??

    Bloody marvellous!

    Not a whole lot of people have this kind of luck!

    Glass is half full friend! 😁
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2019 at 4:53 PM
  23. Ryan217

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    Not just him, all of us now have that very useful information. I am somewhat surprised though this still hasn't been returned to him.
     
  24. Blueforever

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    I really can’t believe this has taken so long. According to @namesilo, its to do with @NetworkSolutions processing. I’ve written to them a number of times, and basically have been told to be patient, which is wearing pretty thin.
     
  25. Kenneth Smith

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    there's more to this story. something seems fishy. people have not learned only use go daddy,namecheap. why namesilo
     

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