.tv Whatever happened to the rule of supply and demand???

[MillersCrossing]

big bear market on .tv sales at the lower end of the reseller to mid xx,xxx end user sales.

Why? 18 months ago, you could find more or less any name you wanted unless it was a top generic or premium name. It was really tough remaining disciplined and setting amounts which usually were wishful thinking.

now, great names to names that should never have been born never mind registered are going going going gone...

Really, if i come close to buying a name these days, i find myself pulling out at the last second because it stinks and i know it, which is why i recently said i was looking for top generics that were not premiums in
the aftermarket, yet no one i selling short.....

this seems to breaak or at leasst strongly ignore this law of economics.......and it is not a seasonal thing either, people hunt oppurtunity 24/7 and just look at the mobi sales last week.......

anyone care to explain?????!!!!

 

[snoop]

"which is why i recently said i was looking for top generics that were not premiums in
the aftermarket,"

That sounds like a limited market, how many top generics are not priced with premium renewals? I would think it is a fairly limited market.

And with the premium names how many people really want to pay a lump sum and high renewals for a name? From a domainers perspective many names are still available from the registry wich probably doesn't encourage a strong secondary market. Alot of those premium names probably also "should never have been registered" also when you factor in the renewals being paid. It is a very tricky market when some of the best names can actually be worthless due to the pricing. I think the answer to your question is that there may actually be very little demand above "registration fee" (however high that may be) for many names.

 

[jeffoverman]

what are you guys talking about......

As far as Supply and demand goes-thats why geo owners are turning down 30,000 cash offers and no demand.......hmm, that dosent make much of a statement.

mobi sales are doing great- I am a mobi user and investor. And yes things are seasonal. Things go in cycles-up and down just like gas prices and stock market prices....

Millerscrossing-dont take this personally....You got some amazing geo names and find that a bit out there in what your talking about. Hope your feeling better and recovering well.......As far as snoop goes-well happy holidays


J

 

[MillersCrossing]

"which is why i recently said i was looking for top generics that were not premiums in
the aftermarket,"

That sounds like a limited market, how many top generics are not priced with premium renewals? I would think it is a fairly limited market.
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Well maybe, the point though is that i could just have picked the apple off the tree, instead of requesting permission to go into somones orchard and pick by the dozen. Surely there are plenty of names like that . For example, someone had tatoo.tv, I got Tattoo designs (VH Google count)) used auto was gone I got auto exchange....

A whole are of food related generics, the closest i get to a decent word is Bakeries by SKG.....other wise the rest were like french fry (may have bought th plural) I am lookin for words like PASTRY.TV, which was reg fee.

 

[smashfactory]

but we dont own all the .tv's did you search out terms you liked and checked the whois? there are others out there who have exactly what you are looking for- just maybe not in here

 

[snoop]

what are you guys talking about......

As far as Supply and demand goes-thats why geo owners are turning down 30,000 cash offers and no demand.......hmm, that dosent make much of a statement.

mobi sales are doing great- I am a mobi user and investor. And yes things are seasonal. Things go in cycles-up and down just like gas prices and stock market prices....


J

Reports of offers being turned down really doesn't mean a thing, actual sales is what counts.

 

[atypical]

Personally, I've done very well with my .tv investments, in the black and then some. It's not hundreds of thousands but then I didn't start with much either.

I'm probably gonna get in trouble for this snoop, but why do you care? If you're not into .TV, that's cool. I'm not that into mobi or several other extensions, but it's totally cool by me if someone thinks they are the shiznit.

 

[smashfactory]

actual sales happen, even if they are not reported- the new owner of news.tv ($500,000.00 list) obviously does not want to be known right now

 

[snoop]

I'm probably gonna get in trouble for this snoop, but why do you care? If you're not into .TV, that's cool. I'm not that into mobi or several other extensions, but it's totally cool by me if someone thinks they are the shiznit.

I guess you could ask the same question of anyone who is critical of anything, why do they care, shouldn't they just sit down and be silent? In my view it is mainly about people hearing both sides of the story.

actual sales happen, even if they are not reported- the new owner of news.tv ($500,000.00 list) obviously does not want to be known right now

The name looks to be registered to Demand Media judging by the combination of enom whois privacy and Hotkeys nameservers (lmi.net).

 

[smashfactory]

news.tv is no longer avail- i believe someone on here confirmed the sale with someone from demand media a few weeks back-

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

shiznit.

Rep Added for the use of that term in a domain business forum.

 

[jeffoverman]

What's wrong with putting in an offer on bakeries.tv? Its a nice name and a lot of potential.

If I read this correctly you wanted wholesale prices to flip and make a profit. Now would the owner of bakeries.tv want a cheap sale so you can flip it and you benefit on it? In 3 years time a bakery chain could want name and run video on it.

Yes you are right there a lot of food related names with hefty renews. I love the meals.tv and that thing is going fly very high in a couple years. I bet he is even seeing some type in traffic. But that's the risk he took, pay the fees each year and he has a top generic term.

Now what I found interesting a food term I own I had parked going after content and video wasn't doing much. I brought it to ppc parking and the past 2 weeks I earned over 9.00 bucks. Yes it may not see like a lot but its a nice generic term and non renew price each year. Just the domain fee.

Here we go again with sales vs a couple weeks back. Snoop there are so many deals behind closed doors happening everyday with .tv. Do you hear frank and his buddies mentioning each sale they do. No. Because they prefer it this way. And if you look at the reported .tv sales vs previous years we are headed into a nice growth curve. Which is up and up. Facts don't lie snoop.

Just my 2 cents folks. This is my take and my response back to above remarks.

Good luck in finding a nice name. There are some nice names out there but your going have to pay up.

J

News.tv got sold! I said that weeks ago before it even got announced.

Actually sales your right snoop. You should look back in that thread and look at the ytd chart and sales growth. That's just the reported sales side of things.

Again point being. A lot of things being offered behind closed doors.

 

[freedom30]

Snoop may think that many of the names in .tv are bupkis(not shiznit), but that is a-ok, an opinion he is entitled to. Many names from all extensions are the same.

That doesn't slow me down with .tv one iota. There is nothing constant but change, as someone once said, and the times, they are a'changing. :imho:

And to paraphrase what jeffoverman states, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors!

 

[snoop]

What's wrong with putting in an offer on bakeries.tv? Its a nice name and a lot of potential.

If I read this correctly you wanted wholesale prices to flip and make a profit. Now would the owner of bakeries.tv want a cheap sale so you can flip it and you benefit on it? In 3 years time a bakery chain could want name and run video on it.

Bakaries.tv? That makes very little sense with the extension to me, why would a bakery chain want to buy it to run videos on it? Even in fitting extensions food type names often don't get a lot of interest unless it is a really premium type food or something that would sell well online. Gourmetcoffee.com versus breadrolls.com

Here we go again with sales vs a couple weeks back. Snoop there are so many deals behind closed doors happening everyday with .tv.

With every extension where reported sales are sluggish the same argument is trundled out as though there is some secret market that is somehow different to all the other extensions reporting strong sales. In every extension most sales are not reported, .tv is no different. What is reported is the best indicator of the overall market, because a certain % of sales do end out being reported.

 

[jeffoverman]

Snoop. Bakeries.tv and video would love this

Show how to make home made cookies on .tv, cooking pies, how they do things

Bottom line. Facts are facts snoop. Sales are up, .tv branding is upward and namepros thread .tv thread is up.

You can come in here every couple weeks and poke at us. That's fine.

Your not backing down and I am not backing down. We keep poking at each other. I am just wondering where you get your views and so called numbers. We keep going round and round on the same stuff

I am done defending my views on .tv and how your wrong with branding tools now and your sales numbers.

We all know .com is king snoop.

Why don't you grab snoop.tv and you can run video and your commentary on your view points that are unproven and facts are wrong. Your ppstings are not defending your cases.

 

[snoop]

Snoop. Bakeries.tv and video would love this

Show how to make home made cookies on .tv, cooking pies, how they do things

Bottom line. Facts are facts snoop. Sales are up, .tv branding is upward and namepros thread .tv thread is up.

You can come in here every couple weeks and poke at us. That's fine.

Your not backing down and I am not backing down. We keep poking at each other. I am just wondering where you get your views and so called numbers. We keep going round and round on the same stuff

I am done defending my views on .tv and how your wrong with branding tools now and your sales numbers.

We all know .com is king snoop.

Sales are up for .tv but it is only a moderate increase from what I can see of it, nothing like the rest of the market, I would say the losses being racked up for some due to high reg fees are up also. As far as "my numbers" they simply come from dnjournal.

Rumored $30,000 offers and guesses that news.tv may have sold for $500,000 isn't facts or data, it is hot air.

 

[SKG]

Bakaries.tv? That makes very little sense with the extension to me, why would a bakery chain want to buy it to run videos on it? Even in fitting extensions food type names often don't get a lot of interest unless it is a really premium type food or something that would sell well online. Gourmetcoffee.com versus breadrolls.com


I do not doubt that you would not understand since to YOU, TV is still Tuvulu. Keep trolling the .TV forum Snoop, eventually you will start thinking outside the box just like .commers did back in the early 90s. You did pick up a few .coms at over 100 bucks each back then didn't you, which would be the equivalent to a couple hundred a reg in 2007 compensating for infation?

 

[jeffoverman]

The only fact I see that you have is a future auction and a dedicated auction. That's my worry for .tv snoop.

As far as versign issues and pricing that is a huge debate and we can go on and on about this. The people that have top notch names like skg, sneakers, discover now, local experts and few other players here in .tv are all going benefit. Fun times ahead snoop. There all going have a huge wins in the future and they see .tv potential. I don't have the bucks or the backing that they may have but I am perfectly happy where .tv is going and numbers speak for themselves.

See you back in couple weeks snoop. Look forward to your reading more untrue facts by you. Hey we all make mistakes, I make mistakes everyday. You have mistakes. Your not perfect, I am not perfect. But having things back you up I would have more respect.

Good luck.

30,000 offers are true snoop. Offers being turned down.

Think what you think.

As far as news.tv goes. Who knows what the price was but it wasn't cheap and they got a good discount on it probably

I hope news.tv got bought by an NBC and you can watch NBC nightly news or CNN and have news.tv in the right corner just like TNT.tv. That's what I want and its not a fact yet.

Fun times snoop. As with things .tv has risks. Its a risk I am willing to bet on.

 

[snoop]

Bakaries.tv? That makes very little sense
I do not doubt that you would not understand since to YOU, TV is still Tuvulu.

Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth.

I've certainly not one to argue technicalities such as that. .TV means .television, it has nothing to do with bakeries and very little to to with information on tuvalu. To be consistent I also often tell people that the country code of the United States is not .us but rather .com

You did pick up a few .coms at over 100 bucks each back then didn't you?

Not sir I didn't. I did not start in domains until around mid 2000.

 

[freedom30]

Snoop,

Your opinion counts as much as mine or anyone else, to be sure.

Whether or not bakeries.tv will click is for the future to decide. I see it happening, as we are a commercially media-intensive society(if you don't think so check out all the commercials and advertisements from TV to radio to newspaper to shopping carts and checkout counters).

A little imagination and thinking outside of the box can see a usefulness in bakeries.tv not just in terms of baking instructions but also a full spectrum of news of the world of breads, so to speak, with different types of breads and pastries(from all around the world) that many may want to experience, as well as kitchen gadgets and baking supplies. It doesn't have to be in one dull direction. It can cover a spectrum of things that the consumer can purchase. Media-intensive is the operative word here. The visual ads you now see on checkout counters cover that gamut, and I would assume bakeries.tv can do the same down the road.

You may not be able to visualize that now, but then I didn't think I would see a TV screen at the gas pump either.

Anyway, I do appreciate your input on this board whether I may agree with some of what you say or not. Thanks for exposing our senses to an opposing view. You may be a realist and I a dreamer, or I may just see commercial opportunities to be had. Only time will tell.