Located in Reviews started by equity78, Nov 18, 2019.
Wow, here is the response from Nat, he nailed it all. To all those who want some perk and more.
Honestly .. I wouldn't want a TShirt or anything else. I want all the money to go to pay for whatever it is they need to fight the good fight. Be it paying for Zak (thanks Zak for all your work) to travel to ICANN sessions or to paying lawyers to protect domainers.
I do think it couldn't hurt if they did approach industry businesses for discounts and such .. that could be effective at swaying new members to join .. as long as it doesn't actually cost them anything (like a T-Shirt).
I personally wouldn't think twice if it was $10/month .. maybe $20/month .. that's the price of 1-2 domains.
This is my third year domaining and first being comfortably profitable. I was looking at the $50/month .. but I'm not quite there yet (those of you who follow my blog/daily lists know that I had a previous non-internet side-business where I had a pretty big loss because of the death of our middleman mid-transaction .. so at the moment my domain profits are helping pay back those debts).
$10/m and I sign up tomorrow
$20/m and I probably sign up tomorrow
All that said .. thanks to the ICA for all their work!
I try to help as much as I can .. I post a considerable amounts of what I hope is helpful information whenever I see someone ask about trademarks or UDRPs .. I'm currently helping a fellow domainer fight a very abusive Global Top 100 Brand.
Also .. big thanks to @jberryhill for all his participation and sharing of knowledge here at NamePros!
Their opinions are powerless. It is a waste of money. They need to direct all of the money towards litigation.
Kinda hard for them to pay for the costs of litigation if people were to pay $0/year !?
Kind of hard to pay for your own litigation if you are wasting money on paying for opinions.
ICA is dancing around the fire while fueling the fire with movie tickets.
Ah .. you meant domainers when you said "They need to direct all of the money towards litigation."?
I thought you were talking about the ICAs actions (do they defend some cases?)
That being said .. Zak goes to ICANN meetings to help set fairer policies that hopefully in some cases would avoid litigation in the first place.
I think that's the goal here .. to help fight for rules that will level the playing field and makes things more fair for domainers who aren't abusive toward legitimate trademarks in their domain registrations.
Only litigation can protect interests.
where is the:
“would only pay for lifetime membership”?
make that 700-800, charge 49-60 annually
$600 is too extreme, but you get what u pay for
And what exactly are you spending your money on?
I don't know much about ICA.
Seems high fees.
What are the statistics of defending the UDRP case by ICA?
I voted 99 before reading any of the OP
He nailed nothing, did he persuade you to join?
They don't defend UDRP's.
If firefighters asked for exorbitant fees and then rather than fight fires just sounded the alarm it would be the same question:
What am I paying for?
So what have ICA done for you?
I'm still waiting for my $200 investment to BaseballWorld's domain group to payoff
should be any day now
They should consider a 'free' option. Often times people with more money have less time, and people with less money have more free time. From what I've seen, most of the current members of the ICA really don't have time to be active participants in the ICANN process. They should have some kind of membership program, where by participating in an ICANN mailing list or perhaps joining ICANN as part of the business constituency, you could be offered membership and access to the ICA.
The current $600 is too expensive for me.
$100 is the best price that I can afford.
i'm thinking... puff, puff...
if, ica wanted to grow a base, like a political party, or like a "union"
where the volume of membership could add weight, for opposition to consider, prior to taking action against member of said group
they would reduce membership fee to $100 a year or less, as a gesture of inclusion.
they could also solicit registrars, ppc's, paid for appraisal services, forum membership fee's etc. to add a "donate" button of $1 to ica
there are some here on np who pay for badges, what if NP donated $1 from each payment to ica and in turn NP gets recognized as ica sponsor?
many still use ppc, one could elect to donate $1 from their monthly payments to ica
there are ways for them to grow it's base and cash reserves, but they have to be willing to reach out.
i said $99/year, it just seems like a membership amount. ty
Can anyone help answer what the ICA actually does, or why anybody would want to join them?
Granted, this doesn't apply to every ICA member, but of those 84 members, I've seen a few ICA members (or badges) that I would never want to be associated with, in any capacity. Thus, why risk associating myself with such undesirable people, mostly the anti-nameproer's.
With such representation, I run far, far away from such thoughts of ever aligning myself with this organization. Even if this organization was meant for good, or has done good, it's a shame such members exist (or pay for a badge / title that may look good to unknowing crowds) and by proxy, has tarnished an intended reputation to the point of this comment.
That is another component to all of this. It's always when someone says We or Our I ask, "Who is we?"
Because over the years I have had people say they did not want to associate with all kinds of people.
"I could never stand with X he owns porn names, porn names are disgusting to me."
"I can't belong to a group that has that scumbag."
One was "I can't be associated to a domain hoarder, people who own 100,000 plus domains make me sick!"
The last one I thought was interesting the person drew a line at how many names to own was ok, he told me he owned roughly 800, I told him there are many outside of domaining that would call you a hoarder. He did not agree.
Hell I have recommended people join here who have told me they can't because so and so is a member.
You make some good points Don, now I got an email when I wrote my post about the ICA on TheDomains.
The reader wrote, "No Frank, No Mike, No Rick, No Mann, No thank you."
One echo chamber roars another echo chamber basically says F U. I just wish people would stop using WE and OUR, we are not and were never all on the same side.
The Domain Name Rights Coalition ?
dnrc.tech / twitter
I am curious and nothing wrong with it, but you suggested free but voted $600.
Separate names with a comma.