What do you think about your Portfolio`s Quality?

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What do you think about your Portfolio`s Quality?

  1. I have at least one domain that worths over $1 Million

  2. My domain Portfolio worths more than $1 Million

  3. My domain Portfolio worths more than $100 K

  4. My Portfolio rocks but I don`t know how much it worths.

  5. I have an average portfolio aka: my portfolio sucks

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  1. atinc

    atinc ∴ Entrepreneur ∴ Business Account

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    I am curious about how namePros members feel about their domain Portfolio.

    Go ahead and participate the poll.

    Tell us how you feel about your domain Portfolio.
     
    The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
  2. biggie

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    since you started it, why not be the first, to share your inner most feelings


    :)

    imo...
     
  3. atinc

    atinc ∴ Entrepreneur ∴ Business Account

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    If you vote you can see my inner most feelings :xf.wink:

    Interesting question right? :xf.smile:
     
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  4. Joe Nichols

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    Lol. Those are some very interesting options you presented. Quite a big gap between #3 and #4 and #4 and #5!

    I think my portfolio is average, but I wouldn't say it sucks. Certainly don't have any five figure names, unless I get lucky.

    If you wanted to do a less subjective poll, I'd be interested in seeing the average Estibot value (per name) of everyone's portfolio.
     
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  5. atinc

    atinc ∴ Entrepreneur ∴ Business Account

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    What would you add for options, I can still edit it you know :xf.wink:

    Edit: I think estibot is a joke :) I am more into how people feel about their portfolio.
     
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  6. Joe Nichols

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    Well I'd make a more defined range:
    • $100M+
    • $10M to $100M
    • 100K to $1M
    ... and so forth.

    Just don't expect many honest answers. :)
     
  7. Kuffy

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    Right now, I think it's worth nothing until somebody buys something. Well that's what I told the tax man anyway. :)
     
  8. atinc

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    That`s right the true value would determined by the sale price but I want to know how people "feel" about their portfolio. :)
     
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  9. garptrader

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    How does one value a portfolio?

    1) Multiply the number of domains you have at each price level and sum them - ignoring renewal costs and the fact that in any given year most domainers only sell a very small percentage of their portfolio.

    2) Apply some multiple - five to ??? times recent portfolio annual earnings including parking revenue and renewal costs.

    3) Only value the .COM domains because the rest when considering renewal costs are probably not worth anything.

    4) Assume some future growth factor as domains will be more commonly used as a valuable tool for promoting a business' products and services (even though today most businesses and developers currently do not view them this way - thus the reason for so many reg fee end users domains and low industry portfolio turn).

    5) Other
     
  10. atinc

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    Here is an example from a verified pro. He explains how he values his portfolio over $500 Million

    https://onlinedomain.com/2017/04/24...es-domain-name-portfolio-500-million-dollars/

    How does one value a portfolio? IMO it is research and instincts
     
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    Mine: less than sucks!
     
  12. Joe Nichols

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    Research and instincts, yes... but the most important factor is probably how much you could realistically expect to sell the portfolio for right now. Anything else is just a pipe dream.
     
  13. atinc

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    True. But at the end of the day when you received an offer for your domain you should have an idea about how much it worths right? Cause as an owner you are the one who will decide on the final price.
     
  14. dgmweb

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    I think I have some gems but only if they're developed - just the names are not much value IMO. I can see an end-user paying a decent price for them but not another domainer.

    I also have some that I think can sell without a site, very good resell names & brandable - just need the right buyer to see it.

    On the topic of automatic evaluations, I'm surprised by the ones Estibot and other auto-valuators show a high number for, and I think it's funny how some that I think are worth something get a $0 value. I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that so far BB, Sedo, and Namejet have not accepted any names I've submitted, and it just reminds me why I am not a fan of "gatekeepers".
     
  15. Joe Nichols

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    Receiving an offer is a good benchmark for a domain, sure. But at the end of the day, the only thing you can go on is real data, based on real market prices of similar domains. And unless your domains are liquid, you have no way of knowing what price you can get for them now, or in 10 to 100 years from now.

    In my case... I have 29 names listed on Brandbucket, which I could realistically value between $10 to $40 each (because there is an established market for these). My other 100 names are a combination of random brandables or EMDs. Yes, I price them in the XXX to XXXX range in the aftermarket, but if I were to sell them in bulk today, would anyone even give me $10 per domain?? I have no guarantee of knowing, and until I do, those domains are more liability than asset. My combined asking price for them would be over $100K, but in reality they're worth next to nothing.
     
  16. atinc

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    I think real data would achieved by research, not by the prices of similar domains cause each domain is unique.

    You need to know about that specific industry and how it is related to the web. Is there an online market for the niche you invested, who are your competitors and this type of research would help you to valuate your domain names IMHO.
     
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    Super Duper Ultra Rare Premium Holographic.
     
  18. atinc

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    Pretty confident? :xf.smile:
     
  19. Joe Nichols

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    That would help you to price them, not to know how much you can get for them today. And when you're talking value, all that matters is today's value.
     
  20. biggie

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    if...
    your portfolio as a whole or in part, does not make any money from parking or other means of monetizing it on a daily/ monthly/ yearly basis, then it's only worth what you paid to build it, to you.

    if, any domain in your portfolio has a concrete offer on the table, then your portfolio is worth that amount, plus what you paid for the rest of them.

    on the other hand, how you "feel" inside your mind about your names, their potential for usage, their potential in the future, may be greater than what they would sell for in bulk.

    so, using that as a realistic measure, my portfolio is worth a few G's, plus what i paid to build it.

    imo.....
     
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  22. atinc

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    Can you sell your home today? If you can`t is that mean that your home is valueless? No it has a price right?
     
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  23. Joe Nichols

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    Of course it means that. After 2008 there are all kinds of homes across America that are worthless because no one can/will buy them.

    Until a home sells, it's a liability. However in certain markets, it's a lot more reasonable to expect that you can sell it for a certain value.

    Same with domains. My random LLLL.com can probably get me $200 to $250 right now, but my random brandable could be worth $1 now or $5,000 ten years from now. I just don't know. And when something is that volatile, you can't assign a real value to it without doing a lot of math. :) But that value will usually be at or below its acquisition cost.
     
  24. atinc

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    Interesting results, keep them coming. :droid:
     
  25. Isac

    Isac I choose Humanity Business Account

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    I have average kind of portfolio but my portfolio didn't sucks. So i can't choose any option
     

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