.tv WARNING - Premium Domains - ENOM and the 2006 discount deal

[virtuali]

I write this to all of you whom have premium domains. The setup at Enom/Verisign is an absolute scam to rip off people anyway they can. The whole build up to the release of premiums, to the endeavor with channelme etc.. all a scam to get people invested in .TV and screw them over.

I regged one of my premium names a couple years ago for a specific amount and was told at that time as many of you on the board that renewal will always be what you regged it for. THIS IS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF CRAP EVER!!.. I just went to renew my name and it is a thousand dollars more then what I regged it at. I sent an email to enom and was informed that unless I have a contract stating my renewal fee in "perpetuity", I can basically go screw myself. I can honestly say ENOM is the worst thing to happen to this extension and I warn any of you newbies or potential investors to stay away from the premium scam cause that is exactly what this is. Nothing more nothing less.

Regards.

 

[discovernow]

This is very serious. I own about 40 premiums myself and I was told premiums would not increase. I am sure others have e-mail documentation on this as well.

Thanks, Jim

 

[quality]

Oh dear sorry to hear that sounds like .TV domains may be liable to massive random price hikes and that is bound to hit the extension.

:wave: :blink:

 

[virtuali]

Jim,

I am soo pissed at these guys... Point blank, if you got any premium domains at a time when there was a "deal" or you made a deal with Verisign or enom.. it doesnt matter... they can and will raise the price on you if they choose. Your deal will only be as good as the time you regged the name.

Ex: so if you regged a name that was 3000 originally, but cut a deal for it for 2500 for 2 years making your payment 5000. That is only good for those 2 years. After that they will change it back to the 3000.

Absolute BS.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

I need to know what is going on right now, immediately can someone please reconfirm that this is the truth, and not some fluke situation?

Jim,

I am soo pissed at these guys... Point blank, if you got any premium domains at a time when there was a "deal" or you made a deal with Verisign or enom.. it doesnt matter... they can and will raise the price on you if they choose. Your deal will only be as good as the time you regged the name.

Ex: so if you regged a name that was 3000 originally, but cut a deal for it for 2500 for 2 years making your payment 5000. That is only good for those 2 years. After that they will change it back to the 3000.

F%cking absolute BS. Sorry for the language guys but I am very pissed.

Ok now wait a minute, I thought the discount was only as good for as long as you paid up front.

You could get the deal for as many years as you paid up front. You dont just get to carry the discount every year you renew.

If im understanding you, this is how it is has always been.

This has nothing to do with people who registered names right off the shelf at whatever premium fee.

 

[discovernow]

I write this to all of you whom have premium domains. The setup at Enom is an absolute scam to rip off people anyway they can. The whole build up to the release of premiums, to the endeavor with channelme etc.. all a scam to get people invested in .TV and screw them over.

I regged one of my premium names a couple years ago for a specific amount and was told at that time as many of you on the board that renewal will always be what you regged it for. THIS IS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF CRAP EVER!!.. I just went to renew my name and it is a thousand dollars more then what I regged it at. I sent an email to enom and was informed that unless I have a contract stating my renewal fee in "perpetuity", I can basically go f$ck myself. I can honestly say ENOM is the worst thing to happen to this extension and I warn any of you newbies or potential investors to stay away from the premium scam cause that is exactly what this is. Nothing more nothing less.

Regards.

Only talk to Deborah Burditt who handles premiums regarding this; her e-mail is, [email protected]

Thanks, Jim

Jim,

I am soo pissed at these guys... Point blank, if you got any premium domains at a time when there was a "deal" or you made a deal with Verisign or enom.. it doesnt matter... they can and will raise the price on you if they choose. Your deal will only be as good as the time you regged the name.

Ex: so if you regged a name that was 3000 originally, but cut a deal for it for 2500 for 2 years making your payment 5000. That is only good for those 2 years. After that they will change it back to the 3000.

F%cking absolute BS. Sorry for the language guys but I am very pissed.

That was not what I was told. Is there anything in writing that states this. If that is the case I will be really "pissed" but we need to research this further.

Thanks, JIm

 

[johntv]

Virtuali, I know of another NP member who had the same problem just last week. He emailed Deborah and she rectified the mistake right away.

I'm not sure about the details, but know that Enom made a few mistakes with taking the right renewals after the Verisign take over.

 

[virtuali]

Deborah is who I spoke to via email.

I am wayyy out of the loop if enom can change the price back to the original pricing (or more) etc after your reg period is up... if that is the case that is just a scam as I stated.

 

[fleaking]

Deborah is who I spoke to via email.

I am wayyy out of the loop if enom can change the price back to the original pricing (or more) etc after your reg period is up... if that is the case that is just a scam as I stated.

Honestly speaking,

I am the guy that johntv just mentioned,
I have a .tv registered with enom which was a non-premium when I bought it from someone else,
it was expired for one day in last few weeks,
but WTF! when I wanted to renew it, eNom showed me that name is a $10,000/year premium! And that made me unable to renew it! (I have the screenshot: http://www.ufo.tw/enom.jpg )
I asked John for help and John told me "contact Deborah",
so I sent her an email with the original invoice of that name (luckily the former owner still has the original invoice),
then Deborah helped me to extend the name for one more year at the original price, but she still said that one IS a premium, please contact eNom when I want to renew it again. This is really weird to me and I am afraid that they will play dirty again next year when I want to renew it. I am also afraid that they will do the same thing for other non-premium names of mine and yours.

fleaking

 

[virtuali]

So they can take a non-premium and turn it into a 10,000 dollar premium just because they now say its a premium because it expired for one day..!!!! hahaha...OMG... this is unbelievable... Scamming people at its best... and what they will tell you is... "well.. it did technially expire".... scam.. scam.. scam...

 

[fleaking]

by the way,
I think that was due to eNom changed their pricing system recently (the former www.tv had different pricing systems),
I know some names were premium originally,
but were available at non-premium later.

 

[weblord]

im sorry to know of this event.

 

[virtuali]

Fleaking.. that shouldnt matter one bit... if you regged it at a price and keep it updated that should stay your price. Just because they change something on a whim doesnt mean they get to bend you over and start charging you a "new" price because they feel like it...

 

[fleaking]

Fleaking.. that shouldnt matter one bit... if you regged it at a price and keep it updated that should stay your price. Just because they change something on a whim doesnt mean they get to bend you over and start charging you a "new" price because they feel like it...

Yeah I totally agree,
I just told you what I know in last thread. (I have been researching this extension for a long time) :]

 

[MicroGuy]

Just in case anyone was unaware, enom is owned by Demand Media. Their CEO is currently being sued over the Myspace sale for scamming investors.

"The class action suit accuses ex-senior executives and directors of Intermix, and its venture capital backer VantagePoint Venture Partners, of defrauding shareholders of billions of dollars through the $580 million sale of Intermix to News Corp."

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/836281/MySpace-fraud-lawsuit-heads-trial/

"Named in the suit (is) former Intermix Chief Executive Richard Rosenblatt."

The Premium renewal issue doesn't surprise me, this guy wrote the book on deceptive business practice.

 

[equity78]

Ok now wait a minute, I thought the discount was only as good for as long as you paid up front.

You could get the deal for as many years as you paid up front. You dont just get to carry the discount every year you renew.

If im understanding you, this is how it is has always been.

This has nothing to do with people who registered names right off the shelf at whatever premium fee.


You are correct Jack, if you paid up front it was good for then, after that it goes back to the regular fee.

 

[.tv]

Very disappointing!

I wonder if anyone else has experienced this problem. :o

 

[virtuali]

WOW... I am WAYYYYY out of the loop.....I REALLY pity any suckers that got involved in the 70% off scam then....

I dont think many of the premium owners know this...

Thank god I didnt buy more of these.

 

[equity78]

Just in case anyone was unaware, enom is owned by Demand Media. Their CEO is currently being sued over the Myspace sale for scamming investors.

"The class action suit accuses ex-senior executives and directors of Intermix, and its venture capital backer VantagePoint Venture Partners, of defrauding shareholders of billions of dollars through the $580 million sale of Intermix to News Corp."

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/8...it-heads-trial/

"Named in the suit (is) former Intermix Chief Executive Richard Rosenblatt."

The Premium renewal issue doesn't surprise me, this guy wrote the book on deceptive business practice.

No offense Greg but WTF does that mean ? First off shareholders always look for more they thought he sold Myspace for too cheap.

Secondly the deal Virtuali and everyone made during the discount was with Verisign.

I am no fan of enom but lets keep things straight.

The deal that everyone got was that you could pay up front and get a discount, after the years up front expired the premium went back to the price before the upfront pay. Why would it stay the same as opposed to the upfront ? It was a promotion why would I pay upfront and you could get the same fee without paying the upfront fee.

 

[jeffoverman]

wow...a lot to read and concern on this issue...

a confused .tv domainer and thought I had this learned but I guess I need to understand this more carefully...

Discovernow, equity, johntv and couple more on this thread will post the truth on this as equity did just now and johntv and jim... look at the what the experts say into this matter...