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WARNING: How to Avoid Domain Scams and Scammers

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Prevention:

Google the domain (also try adding words like stolen, scammed, help, missing, etc), asking other domainers about the domain in question, checking the various marketplaces and making sure things add up... The biggest single indicator of a potential scam is the price. A scammer will want to price the domain low enough that it sells before he gets caught. Keep a watchful eye on new members. Recently modified whois is another warning sign. If other indicators are present (ex. extremely low price), proceed with extreme caution.

Some known scams:

1. Appraisal Scam -- If they ask for an appraisal, it's probably a scam.

2. Snail mail scam letters -- Letters through the mail reminding you to renew your domains from companies which aren't your current registrar

3. Compromised web-based email accounts and keyloggers -- Using an email provided to you by your Internet Service Provider is generally safer than web-based email solutions. There have been known security flaws in certain webmail applications in the past (ex. Gmail) which made compromising member accounts considerably easier than guessing a password. Understand the risks involved with using a web-based solution. Download spyware software such as Adaware Lavasoft and scan your computer daily. Keyloggers are A) easy to put on someone's computer and B) potentially catastrophic to a web based business.

4. Unauthorizing funds (particularly bad with Paypal). Paypal makes it very easy to create chargebacks. Don't accept large amounts by Paypal unless you're dealing with people you absolutely trust. Moneybookers/Escow.com are a step above Paypal, however the best option would be to go with a true escrow service such as Sedo Escrow, Moniker Domain Escrow Service or EscrowDNS.

5. Emails saying your domain requires renew/transfer/you to take a certain action. Check the email and make sure that A) it's from your registrar and B) the url mentioned matches what your registrar's would be. Safer to just visit the registrar than click the links in the email.

6. Incorrect Whois emails -- if your whois isn't incorrect, beware. Phone your registrar if you think they made a mistake.

7. Traffic/Click Fraud -- Self explanatory. If it isn't direct navigation it shouldn't be sold as such. Due diligence is required here.

8. Hijacking -- If you use one of your own domain names as the nameserver, be sure to make sure it doesn't expire or someone could fraudulently gain control of your domains.

9. Escrow.com is NOT 100% safe. They do not cover stolen domains -- buyer beware. Don't think processing a "bargain" through Escrow.com won't potentially end in you being out money. In the event a domain is stolen from someone's account, the domain WILL be returned to the original owner and you'll be out whatever you paid for the domain.

10. One thing I should add: Most free webmail providers will delete accounts after certain periods of inactivity. A clever scammer could notice that your Hotmail/Yahoo/other webmail account had expired, register that same email address (which is now available) and then proceed to "Request Password" at various registrars using what was previously your email address. If you plan on using your webmail infrequently, it's recommend you verify what amount of inactivity is tolerable and won't result in email account deletion.
 
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Reece thanks for putting up the lists.

That's a lot of stolen names.
 
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You're welcome :)

O.P. over there is suggesting that his account's password was compromised. He's threatening that he'll be going after the perpetrator legally, as well as anyone who purchases these domains. Nothing's been confirmed yet, but I would really recommend staying away. This has the potential to get ugly and I can totally understand the O.P.'s position if those are all indeed his names...

xman said:
Reece thanks for putting up the lists.

That's a lot of stolen names.
 
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eeee.com - OMG, is it stolen
real owner will die for it
 
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Reece said:
You're welcome :)

O.P. over there is suggesting that his account's password was compromised. He's threatening that he'll be going after the perpetrator legally, as well as anyone who purchases these domains. Nothing's been confirmed yet, but I would really recommend staying away. This has the potential to get ugly and I can totally understand the O.P.'s position if those are all indeed his names...

I agree. Anyone that just lost about $100k+ worth of domains would do anything in their power to get them back. I would do anything to get those back, this is unbelievable.
 
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All thanks have to go to Michael Goldman for alerting me to this scam yesterday. If it wasn't for him noticing this, I'd be out $4000.

I didn't want to post anything until I was reasonably sure there was something fishy going on there, which seems to now be the case...
 
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Reece said:
There's another very large fraud investigation going on over at the other forum. Moderators over there have recommended people stay away from the following domains until it can be verified who the real owner is:

illu.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
neoo.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
bogy.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
veko.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
chah.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
mopi.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
admy.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jeef.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
skyfish.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gtgame.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
konet.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gtoy.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
cdcm.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
keti.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
latt.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
xran.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
lave.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
anbu.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jasu.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
morr.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
acct.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
sibe.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jins.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
ftc.net [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-14 2008-04-14 Federal Trade Commision(Already has been SOLD)
microgreen.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-14 2008-04-14
gmeil.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmailcom.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmaii.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
frgoogle.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmile.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmill.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
wowmart.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
youworld.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

3004.COM
DESIGNK.COM
DTWS.COM
GMDX.COM
HZHZ.COM
ICOZ.COM
JNSP.COM
REEX.COM
YESM.COM
GEHO.COM
WIHY.COM
SMSLIFE.COM
COJI.COM
OSSY.COM
MUKS.COM Ki
IZIP.COM

junto.com [email protected] Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
bestland.com [email protected] Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
uspace.com [email protected] Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
postdata.com [email protected] Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

achannel.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
texo.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
rentsale.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
advision.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
blak.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

eeee.com [email protected] Moniker Online Ser.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
egf.com [email protected] Moniker Online Ser.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
openclub.com [email protected] Name.com LLC 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
everygame.com [email protected] Name.com LLC 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gns.net [email protected] Network Solutions,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
freesociety.com [email protected] Rebel.com Services.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
cznet.com [email protected] register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
elli.com [email protected] register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gtoys.com [email protected] register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13


I was interested in one of these domains and I'm aware that at least 2 other NPers were in negotiations over some of these names as well. I'd recommend putting off any purchases of any of the names listed above until management over there gets to the bottom of this. The whois details are updated on these domains as per the dates the original poster suggests they were stolen and the current owner seems to be in a hurry to offload these domains, which seems somewhat questionable at best.

thks for the list
rep added@
 
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Seems scammer is on the loose again. Beware with [email protected]
CYWP.COM
DLVU.COM
GJQV.COM
HZUD.COM
HZVQ.COM
KJWV.COM
KMQO.COM
LHOZ.COM
MHFZ.COM
QCKO.COM
WMUQ.COM
WQYO.COM
WUTQ.COM
FKKJ.com
PJJG.com

http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=824161
http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=824161
http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=799489
 
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ddchan said:
Seems scammer is on the loose again. Beware with [email protected]
CYWP.COM
DLVU.COM
GJQV.COM
HZUD.COM
HZVQ.COM
KJWV.COM
KMQO.COM
LHOZ.COM
MHFZ.COM
QCKO.COM
WMUQ.COM
WQYO.COM
WUTQ.COM
FKKJ.com
PJJG.com

http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=824161
http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=824161
http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=799489

thks for informing.. digital points a lot of scammers ..scary..
 
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dp has lots of members they can't control it anymore and with no quality control.
Malaysia said:
thks for informing.. digital points a lot of scammers ..scary..
 
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pay attentions on this too. He attemped to scam me on tdvr.com

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"[email protected]" a me
mostra dettagli 5 mag (2 giorni fa)
Antonio,

mr.master tdvr.com/users/mrmaster has sent you a message via
your contact form at TDVR.

If you don't want to receive such e-mails, you can change your settings at...

Message:

hey what llll . com you have for sell ?
please post with price

DNF/f77/warning-scammer-selling-449-com-thread-278920.html

and some story about the scammer

domain cn/blog/?60201/action_viewspace_itemid_15440.html&PHPSESSID=d7b612da0b301912589d4252cc2c4574
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and this: [email protected]

namepros.com/451269-lookin-for-3-chars-scammer-alert-print.html
DNF/f26/stolen-domains-scammer-thread-289476.html#post1423110
 
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nullmind said:
pay attentions on this too. He attemped to scam me on tdvr.com

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"[email protected]" a me
mostra dettagli 5 mag (2 giorni fa)
Antonio,

mr.master tdvr.com/users/mrmaster has sent you a message via
your contact form at TDVR.

If you don't want to receive such e-mails, you can change your settings at...

Message:

hey what llll . com you have for sell ?
please post with price

DNF/f77/warning-scammer-selling-449-com-thread-278920.html

and some story about the scammer

domain cn/blog/?60201/action_viewspace_itemid_15440.html&PHPSESSID=d7b612da0b301912589d4252cc2c4574
-----------------------------

and this: [email protected]

namepros.com/451269-lookin-for-3-chars-scammer-alert-print.html
DNF/f26/stolen-domains-scammer-thread-289476.html#post1423110


thanks for the new update
 
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Some of the names have been found:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...rst-serve.html+IHYM&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=34&gl=us

Sterling


Reece said:
Many LLLL.com scams are currently going on. Please read this thread, avoid doing sales via Paypal or any currency exchange which isn't "hard" and be careful no matter who you're dealing with. I recommend using Moneybookers for all domain name purchases. NP$ are another safe option.

Latest Scam Watch

There's another very large fraud investigation going on over at the other forum. Moderators over there have recommended people stay away from the following domains until it can be verified who the real owner is:

illu.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
neoo.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
bogy.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
veko.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
chah.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
mopi.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
admy.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jeef.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
skyfish.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gtgame.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
konet.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gtoy.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
cdcm.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
keti.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
latt.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
xran.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
lave.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
anbu.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jasu.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
morr.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
acct.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
sibe.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jins.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
ftc.net [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-14 2008-04-14 Federal Trade Commision(Already has been SOLD)
microgreen.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-14 2008-04-14
gmeil.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmailcom.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmaii.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
frgoogle.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmile.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmill.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
wowmart.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
youworld.com [email protected] Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

3004.COM
DESIGNK.COM
DTWS.COM
GMDX.COM
HZHZ.COM
ICOZ.COM
JNSP.COM
REEX.COM
YESM.COM
GEHO.COM
WIHY.COM
SMSLIFE.COM
COJI.COM
OSSY.COM
MUKS.COM Ki
IZIP.COM

junto.com [email protected] Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
bestland.com [email protected] Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
uspace.com [email protected] Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
postdata.com [email protected] Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

achannel.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
texo.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
rentsale.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
advision.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
blak.com [email protected] eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

eeee.com [email protected] Moniker Online Ser.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
egf.com [email protected] Moniker Online Ser.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
openclub.com [email protected] Name.com LLC 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
everygame.com [email protected] Name.com LLC 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gns.net [email protected] Network Solutions,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
freesociety.com [email protected] Rebel.com Services.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
cznet.com [email protected] register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
elli.com [email protected] register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gtoys.com [email protected] register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13


I was interested in one of these domains and I'm aware that at least 2 other NPers were in negotiations over some of these names as well. I'd recommend putting off any purchases of any of the names listed above until management over there gets to the bottom of this. The whois details are updated on these domains as per the dates the original poster suggests they were stolen and the current owner seems to be in a hurry to offload these domains, which seems somewhat questionable at best.
 
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What do you mean found? They have been returned to the owner?
 
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I was also wondering about what he meant by that.
MIR said:
What do you mean found? They have been returned to the owner?
 
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Well, if you visited the link, domains from about 5 owners who had their domains stolen we sold last week at v7n. Almost 30 of them.

I am now in talks with the guy who baught them to try and get mine back.
 
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So TravelKing is the scammer here? How come noone has posted in that thread warning other potential buyers?
 
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I donated 25 NP$ to help cover the cost of the sticky.
 
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Thanks Dougy, that was very kind of you :)

And thanks to everyone helping keep this thread updated and helping with making sure everyone on Namepros is as safe as we can be while conducting business on the Internet :tu:

Dougy said:
I donated 25 NP$ to help cover the cost of the sticky.
 
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Here is what I have found out.......

The user TravelKing over at v7n was trying to unload alot of the stolen domains. One of the victims caught him and had his thread shut down. He then tried selling them on another forum. The victim some how befriended him and managed to get his names back. But, the rest of them were sold to:

Morris, Joseph [email protected]
118 Main Street
Nazareth, Pennsylvania 18064
United States
1-484-477-9702

Now, I contacted Joseph Morris last night. He is claiming he knew nothing of the scam, even though if you do a search for any of the names you will find out. Which is what I usually do before I buy a name, any name, I do a Goggle search.

He is not willing to do anything. When I told him he is involved now, like it or not, he says he would just unload them on someone else. So, I asked him how much for me to buy them back? I offered $40 a piece then $50 a piece (which is what he paid), and when he wouldn't take that, I told him he was trying to profit off of someones elses misery, he informed me wasn't that the idea? I said not off STOLEN domains!

So, I am only left with one option, to try the court system.

Unless you guys have any bright ideas?
 
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If you google the email address you will find a number of things this guy is involved in. He also uses the name Richard Wilson. I think you should read article #689 by Restecpa here http://www.DNF/f417/unresolved-namess-sale-35-thread-282204.html
You will see that this guy was involved with the infamous 9MM fiasco. Seems like he may be a hacker/scammer himself.
 
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I stopped reading this thread a long time ago.

I also stopped using PayPal and so I have never been scammed despite lots of scammers tried to scam me offering me too many good names for cheap or trying to buy with PayPal my names.

JUST STOP USING THAT USELESS COMPANY and use MoneyBookers Escrow!!!

:yell:


The reason why some LLLL.com prices dropped is mainly because of these scammers that re-sell the stolen domains at lower prices to get away quickly with their scams.
 
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