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question-answered URGENT NOTICE: QRCODES.COM has been stolen from my EPIK account!

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Most likely it was stolen by EPIK management yesterday.
It was in my account only yesterday when QRCODES.COM was added to the shopping cart ready to be renewed (but removed as I decided to renew it today)

If it was stolen by someone outside EPIK, the time & details of the login (of thief) would have been notified to me by email.
Also the domain was locked so no way it could be transfered out.

If anyone tries to sell it, it's illegal!
 
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That is just an opinion. At one point I had more than 25,000 domains and I didn't have around $250,000 on my bank account, at ZERO interest rate.
My investments aren't liquid, can't cash-in anytime without possible losses.
Real estate, treasury bonds, domains, bitcoins, or collectables.
I diversify, large amounts of money in the bank was never my thing.
Thats a lot of domains. So you were/are reliant on sales to pay your renewals? What happens if you have a dry spell?

I have to agree that on that scale it isn't feasible to have 250k in a bank account but you must have had at least a month's worth of renewals in the bank at any given time (25.5k give or take)? Ultimately if you were in a position where you couldn't renew the names you wanted on time you'd be failing (which was the point I was trying to get at).
 
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Thats a lot of domains. So you were/are reliant on sales to pay your renewals? What happens if you have a dry spell?

I have to agree that on that scale it isn't feasible to have 250k in a bank account but you must have had at least a month's worth of renewals in the bank at any given time (25.5k give or take)? Ultimately if you were in a position where you couldn't renew the names you wanted on time you'd be failing (which was the point I was trying to get at).

it sounded to me u were making pointto have enuf money to renew at any time

more than to renew when expiry nears.. which your on ttime implies
 
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Spoiler alert: skip to the part in bold if you want to cut right to the chase.

Thank you to the multiple people who made me aware of this on the first beautiful weekend we've had here in Seattle so far this year :)

I've looked into this, and the issue is pretty clear.

The name expired and went the full 30 days of grace period before it made it to our internal expiration queue. As you know, we give the full 30 day expiration period (unlike some registrars who shorten it). After 30 days, an automated system looks at the domain to verify its data and decide if any automated actions are taken. That's why this domain was dealt with on the deadline. Computers are efficient. The value of the name meant that was, indeed, moved into a holding account after it was fully expired. The other two names did not meet this threshold, so they were allowed to move into the account that will place them into NameLiquidate in about three days after expiration. We have those three days to be absolutely sure a domain is handled properly. I should note that by the rules that ICANN and even Verisign put down, there is no "day zero." The clock starts at day one, so "day 30" is correct. We did not act early. The time math is pretty straightforward.

If the name goes to NameLiquidate and sells, the original owner gets the proceeds, less a 9% commission, as a credit. As far as I know, we're the only registrar that does this (if someone else does, I apologize, but last time I looked, it was just us). We feel that's the ethical thing to do, and it also lets you have a little scratch from names you let drop anyway.

In this case, this name would not go to NameLiquidate as we feel it has value. If the owner intended to let it drop, we would retain it. This is something pretty-much every registrar does.

Now the good news here is that $#!& happens. The name went past the grace period and wasn't renewed in time, but I (and we) understand that this can happen sometimes. The name is in our holding account, and we can easily return it to the original owner along with a reminder to please not wait until the last minute to renew your domains. Next time, if the name went to NameLiquidate and sold, we might not have this latitude.

If the original owner can email me at I'll connect you with a customer support representative on Monday who can help get it back to you. We'll ask that you pay the renewal, of course, but since it hasn't hit RGP (nor would it), there's no registry fee involved.


You could send me a donut, if you want :)

Now, time to go back outside and plant my cucumbers!

Christopher
Lol no wonder nameliquidate went to trash the last couple years if they're just sniping up anything with even a little bit of value. Probably stole my domains that I won there too and took back from me claiming the "owner" forgot to renew.
 
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I have below 10,000 domains nowadays, 2007/2008+ crisis wasn't kind and lasted a lot of time. The boom that existed before meant nothing if companies no longer had the means to invest. I was forced to auction for peanuts domains what would be worth easy 50k-100k each later (I just give an ex. video .io , sold at T.R.A.F.F.I.C. for only the $400 minimum reserve price that Moniker asked me to set, assured me it would sell for more, was my bad). That was only the start.
Nothing was liquid back then except gold, not even real estate, people/biz didn't have money. So what do you do when your own liquidity disappears after years? I never judge others when I don't know their story, they may have done everything right, and still...
Without those risks I wouldn't have what I do today, what remained of my portfolio is great.
 
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Lol no wonder nameliquidate went to trash the last couple years if they're just sniping up anything with even a little bit of value. Probably stole my domains that I won there too and took back from me claiming the "owner" forgot to renew.
NameLiquidate gets every domain that expires that we do not retain. It goes into a reverse auction, and if sold, the previous owner gets the sale value, less a 9% commission, as in-store credit. Since these are names that the customer let expire, go the full 30 days, and intended to let drop, it's free credit. No work needed. Otherwise, it would have dropped and been auctioned-off somewhere else.

While I'm not 100% sure, I'm of the impression that we're the only registrar who does it like this. There's no sniping and nothing nefarious going on, I promise.

Christopher
 
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NameLiquidate gets every domain that expires that we do not retain. It goes into a reverse auction, and if sold, the previous owner gets the sale value, less a 9% commission, as in-store credit. Since these are names that the customer let expire, go the full 30 days, and intended to let drop, it's free credit. No work needed. Otherwise, it would have dropped and been auctioned-off somewhere else.

While I'm not 100% sure, I'm of the impression that we're the only registrar who does it like this. There's no sniping and nothing nefarious going on, I promise.

Christopher
Did you end up giving domain minus the $10 renewal back to the person that let it expire?
 
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Update:

I'd like to thank Chris Ambler @epik for resolving this quickly

All is good

Domain was returned to my a/c

:)
 
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Update:

I'd like to thank Chris Ambler @epik for resolving this quickly

All is good

Domain was returned to my a/c

:)
You might like to get the mods to adjust the title of the thread, since the domain wasn't stolen.
 
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I have below 10,000 domains nowadays, 2007/2008+ crisis wasn't kind and lasted a lot of time. The boom that existed before meant nothing if companies no longer had the means to invest. I was forced to auction for peanuts domains what would be worth easy 50k-100k each later (I just give an ex. video .io , sold at T.R.A.F.F.I.C. for only the $400 minimum reserve price that Moniker asked me to set, assured me it would sell for more, was my bad). That was only the start.
Nothing was liquid back then except gold, not even real estate, people/biz didn't have money. So what do you do when your own liquidity disappears after years? I never judge others when I don't know their story, they may have done everything right, and still...
Without those risks I wouldn't have what I do today, what remained of my portfolio is great.
This is really important coming from a domainer that experienced the 2008 crisis. What do you think will happen in a year or two in the domaining industry? They say a recession is coming. The dollar already lost like 10% compared to euro.

I'm in europe currently and the renewals and new regs have been already cheaper when paying in euros.

take a look at this screenshot: i.imgur.com/grxQbOC.png
 
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