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Ugh... yet ANOTHER offer to "secure" a hyphenated version of my short/acronym domain

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These guys, be it one group using several domains for their "offer" emails or several like-thinking groups sending out basically the same offer on similar domains... are getting annoying.

Sure, I know that some people send out emails offering to secure a domain (that they don't already own) that is in a closed auction. I do NOT agree with these sort of solicitations either, but at least the quality of these domains is usually BETTER and more likely to be of interest to the recipient.... these guys are offering to secure me domains, that they do NOT already own, which are WORSE quality than what I already have (I expect someone will jump in and say that a 3-letter + hyphen domain is NOT worse quality than a 4-letter domains, and is perhaps even BETTER/more flexible, but I disagree and imagine that most endusers that have a 3-letter + hyphen domain have so either because the hyphen "makes sense"/is part of their business name to begin with, they really only need 3 letters for their acronym and the 3-letter domain is not available or they wanted a 4-letter domain but it was not available so they got creative.... essentially, they would be the exception and the trend would NOT be for most businesses with a 4-letter acronym domain jumping on the chance to have 3 of the 4 + a hyphen instead.... anywho, is a matter of perspective I suppose).

The last few days I have received several "offers" and "time is drawing near" reminders regarding expiring hyphenated versions of my 4-letter domains. Why they think I might be interested in a 3-letter + random hyphen version of my current 4-letter .com is beyond me.

It makes somewhat more sense with actual "keyword" domains, although obviously most everyone would still prefer the unhyphenated version over the hyphenated. Soliciting a hyphenated keyword domain to the registrant of the unhyphenated version might be of more interest since, even with the hyphenated version, you still have the actual keywords in the domain. That doesn't make as much sense with short, acronym domains imo.... if I, or an enduser, have a specific acronym domain the chances are that the letters stand for something specific and throwing a hyphen in there isn't helpful... might be necessary if the actual acronym I would prefer is already taken but, in this instance, I already HAVE the actual acronym.

IF you are the one doing this, and you read this.... please, PLEASE be a little more "selective" about who you think might really be interested in your super hyphenated-domain "offer". I realize it is a numbers game but come on.... why not improve your reply rate and invest (oh wait... you are not investing anything to begin with, you are soliciting domains that you don't own to gauge interest and save any risk of back-ordering without a sure sale) in domains WITHOUT hyphens that you can solicit to domain+hyphen registrants?

And really.... offering to sell domains, be they crap or top-notch, that you are not already in a legal position to sell is really unethical to begin with in my opinion.

Ok, end of rant but I sure hope that they get discouraged by the lack of interest in these domains soon!
 
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AfternicAfternic
Slimpickings, these emails are automated emails.
They download huge expired domains lists and have a script that crawls whois and sends emails to people who have similar domain names.
All of us received this email, so it can't be handpicked method but fully automated.

---------- Post added at 08:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:11 AM ----------

Here is mine
Hello Web Site Registrant,

We would like to make You aware that You can leave an offer for (edited).com before it has been offered to the general public.

Many people own all domain extensions, whether they are .com, .net, .org or other extensions, to prevent any lost traffic to the main domain to help promote their products and services. We are looking forward to get You Your Domain Name shortly.

We would love to help contribute a sustainable advantage to Your internet business:
Just reply to us with your offer.



Best Regards,

John Riley

and 3 days later, the same shit for the SAME name again

Hi Domain Registrant,

We have wanted to make You aware that You can leave an offer for (edited).com before it is offered to the general public.

Most people own all domain extensions, whether it is .com, .net, .org etc., in order to prevent any lost traffic to their website to promote their products and services. We look forward to get You Your Domain Name shortly.

We would love to help contribute a sustainable advantage to Your internet business:
Just reply to us with your offer.



Best Regards,

John Riley

Emails sent from ed-vastus.info
 
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thanks for the reply.... yeah, I realize it is automated, but the fact that I am getting multiple similar "offers" that could be from the same person or a few people doing exactly the same thing with basically the same template, and not just once but SEVERAL times per domain over a span of 2 weeks is just more than annoying. Send out your one automated, generic, non-personalized email offer if you have to.... but leave it at that. Following up multiple times regarding the same expiring domain when there was no response is in my opinion a big part of what annoys potential end users enough that they more than likely delete ANY emails that seem domain oriented. I could understand if they were selling a domain they actually possessed, researched a solid list, sent out a round of "for sale" emails and followed up later with a quoted price/reduced price but multiple offers to "secure" me a domain they don't already have control of and that I have expressed no interest in is not persistentence.... it is spam.

And, to top it off, of the emails I have received this last week that relate to 4 of my domains (a few being offers for domain plus a hyphen, a few being for plurals of the domain), at least one has already completely dropped and another has already been renewed.....

oh well, my frustration was more that, if even I with a pretty small portfolio am getting this many repeated "offers", chances are this tactic has grown into a real cancer across the board and is having an impact on enduser's receiving/reading of emails regarding actually desirable/relevant domains....
 
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I am huge fan these hyphenated domains.They works, because Google huge fan for them,,Thats all.. Make it simple..
 
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After what happened to me in April, I welcome the emails. I had a hyphenated .com and they actually emailed me to let me know that the UN-hyphenated version was expired and would be released soon to the public and I could have them "secure" it for me. Ha-ha, thanks! I went to my registrar and put my bid and secured it myself and waited for it to expire. I actually have a better version of the .com now in my opinion.

Thanks for the heads-up spammers!! :sold:

BTW - The email address they sent their notice to is only used on my whois info, so I know they scraped it.
 
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I always put in an offer for like $500k and then immediately direct all responses to my spam folder. I have several awaiting payment right now.
 
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you are soliciting domains that you don't own to gauge interest and save any risk of back-ordering without a sure sale) in domains WITHOUT hyphens that you can solicit to domain+hyphen registrants?
Tanks..now I understand their intentions!

BTW - The email address they sent their notice to is only used on my whois info, so I know they scraped it.
Same here!

But I do like the emails from GoDaddy that tell me that a Premium Domain (usually one that I have the (dot)info of) is available to buy, usually at a high number
 
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Well, just imagine if you get more than 2 dozen of these kind of emails, do you really believe you have an obligation to be "courteous" and "atleast" send a reply saying "no" ???

As far as i'm concerned, i just look at the domain being peddled, if i don't like it (or don't need it) -- straight to trash bin. No reply.

Which is why it is interesting to read in the other threads here where domainers blow their tops cursing at "end-users" who snub their solicitation emails.

C'mon man, if you are in the solicitation business..., any kind of solicitation business... no reply simply means NOT INTERESTED. It's ridiculous to be emotionally attached to a solicitation spam email you send out.
 
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my point was that not only are the several "offers" I have received lately for LESS desirable versions of domains I already have, it was the sheer REPETITION of emails regarding the same "offer"... and, again, what impact that is perhaps having on enduser recipients who are likely less receptive to the occasional QUALITY domain solicitation (and maybe don't even bother reading them/even land in inbox) due to possibly receiving so many "offers" like these in the past. It not only annoys me but is most likely having an impact on domain email solicitations in general...
 
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chances are this tactic has grown into a real cancer across the board and is having an impact on enduser's receiving/reading of emails regarding actually desirable/relevant domains....

Same opinion here.
They are using fake company names, spamming out domains that they don't even own.
Credibility goes really down for all, I am starting to think that they probably want this.
 
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ok yesterday i received 10 emails (yes 10!!) for the same domain name from different emails (all the same design and nearly the same template) , all whois proxy by Bellnames .

I am pretty sure this is only one guy having hundreds of domains and websites he sends these emails from. And all the names and addresses in the emails are wrong and fake.
 
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Just got this

This is probably the first of many different people trying to sell me the same or similar domain name, which isnt even close to the one they claim I own. How pathetic.

Greetings,

Do you have interest for domain 'XXXXXXXXXX.COM"?

Thanks,
Bobbie G. Parrish
[email protected]
Skype: BG47368448H
 
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