Tried to sell a domain to a business and get called a scammer instead... lol

[cixxy]

Here's the story, I bought a cool domain name via ExpiredDomains that I thought had a lot of potential. I saw a business on facebook dealing with cars called AceGT so I contacted them with this set of messages.

Did I do anything wrong to deserve this? lol I am just confused at how dumb they seem to be.


Me: Hi AceGT, I happen to be the owner of www.acegt.com, I'm wondering if you might be interested in purchasing this premium name to further grow your business and brand to a more professional standard.

This is a very short 5 letter domain that has a lot of strengths associated with it, 2 very short and valuable keywords Ace and GT. It can be very versatile as well since Samsung also has a phone called Ace GT. Thanks for your consideration.

Them: :thumbsup icon: Why Ace Gt other than Samsung

Me: Well basically both these words are highly popular (Ace & GT) and it's not very unlikely that a company, like yours would choose to pick it for a name. Together it means the expert in GT cars which is a good meaning as well.

Them: Sorry. Dont mean to insult. Its as good as i got your Bank cheque book and try to sell it back to you isn't it? Park domain does not mean you are the rightful owner.

Them: [Blocked me via facebook]

[I made a new account and followed up.]

Me: I had to make a new account for facebook since you blocked me. Is this how you really do business, block people with genuine intentions without being sure?

And do you happen to know how domain selling works? I own the name via the registrar NameSilo.com . If we agree on a price, I can put it up and use their service to sell it straight away to you instead of you transferring the funds directly to me.

For example, I own another domain called http://www.clubstate.com/ and that's listed for a price which you buy through NameSilo's website.

No big deal if you're not interested at all, I can sell it to someone else or keep the name for my portfolio. [Sent a screenshot of my owned domains in NameSilo Domain Manager]

Them: Its ok. Enjoy your day. Upz for your sales. Ace Gt domain worth a lot. Can sell high.

How business is done does not need your approval boss. Why dont you try this scam on banks? E.g "own" citibank.xxx and try to sell them? Wake up and earn a decent income. Leave us alone. Thanks.

 

[NYJimbo]

Them: [Blocked me via facebook]

[I made a new account and followed up.]

Me: I had to make a new account for facebook since you blocked me. Is this how you really do business, block people with genuine intentions without being sure?

Dude, if someone blocks you, move on. You seem to be harrassing them.

 

[biggie]

the Op is typical spammer, who found out how to send unsolicited emails to unsuspecting victims

then, when rejected, they try other means, get new account, to further harass this victim/

the domain is not premium, it was expired, so how could it be premium

and who writes the number 5, when trying to convince the victim that it's a short domain?

isn't it obvious how many letters it has?

those are things that only mean something to a domainer, not to a potential end-user.

please, please, stop spamming people under the guise of "outbounding"

especially, if you don't know how to communicate in a professional manner.


as @karmaco said "next time, let them come to you"

imo….

 

[NYJimbo]

These set of words they used were very triggering to me!

Let me tell you a story about being triggered....

I ran a computer repair shop for 20 years (1995-2015) . A few years into running it, a woman came in trying to sell me advertising in the yellow pages (the business phone book). I told her I was not interested.

She wouldn't take that as an answer and kept asking questions about my ad budget, where I advertised and what kind of response I got. I didn't want to deal with her so I told her I wasn't interested in doing ANY advertisiing at this point and asked her to leave.

She would not leave and kept telling me she was trying to save me money. I kept telling her I am not going to do any ad business for the rest of the year, so please stop and leave me alone.

At that point another customer walked in and I told her I had to help them. She kept at it, so I said.
"I have told you several times I am not interested, please leave my store now as you are now just harrassing me and I dont want to do business with you."

This TRIGGERED her and she started to ramble about how long she had been doing this and she was not some new person to ad selling. At that point I told her "You must leave now, I have told you to leave and if you do not, I will call the police and have you physically removed".

She turned bright red in the face, said something and went outside. She got into her car and started punching her steering wheel, whipping her hands around and talking to herself. Another customer came in and mentioned it, so I turned the security camera on her and filmed the whole thing.

She finally started her car and drove away. If she were to come back into the store, I would have called the cops AND the local news so they could have some fun with the story.

Never get triggered if you dont make a sale. Figure out what went wrong and move on....

 

[karmaco]

When he blocked you you should have taken the hint then JMO. Kind of aggressive to make a new account to further contact.

To further grow your business and brand to a more professional standard is condescending and insulting— wrong choice of words.

You bought it because you saw possible end users correct? Next time let them come to you and don’t suggest they are not professional. He pretty much mentioned you were telling him how to run his business.

Less is more.

 

[frank-germany]

you are the of guy
who makes life harder for the rest of us
to contact business

... and I really don't care if you like this post or not

 

[Crysis]

Them: [Blocked me via facebook]

You should have stopped here!

 

[mr-x]

Did I do anything wrong to deserve this? lol I am just confused at how dumb they seem to be.

1) You're not the first owner, they've probably been solicited for this name before. May have even owned it.

2) It's good to know if the person your chatting with has authority to purchase the domain.

3) You're pitch was too long. Hello, are you interested in AceGT.com? If so, I'll quote a price. Happy to answer any questions.

 

[mr-x]

"Park domain does not mean you are the rightful owner."

These set of words they used were very triggering to me, so I had to make a new account to tell them off. They treat me like a fraudster when my intentions were genuine.

Rejection is a part of selling. Better to respond with humor or just move on. They may contact you in the future through a different channel.

 

[UmerK]

I do a lot of outbounds and I have two suggestions for you,
1) Handle rejections better, I ask questions and lots of them when I get a response "No Thanks" I have learned a lot from it and you actually get into mind of the owners of small businesses, You need to craft the message in a way that they do not consider it harassment.
2) When somebody calls you a spammer - RESPECT their choice and let it be.

If you get triggered easily, you should not be doing outbounds at all.

 

[jamesau]

Outbound is part of the business. Some might label it grey hat domaining but it is part of the process.

Key points from this (IMO):

• Some portfolio domains are going to be flops. Just drop them on move on.
• You're targeting the wrong kind of businesses. Sole and small business will not pay for a domain.
• Look for domains with multiple end-users. Not only do you get more potential buyers, you will collect broader domains that look less like 'squatting'.

 

[frank-germany]

they don't want it so what?
leave them alone

 

[gblasting]

I pitched WordSoftware.com to the owners of WordHR.com (they sell HR software) on Facebook saying: “would you be interested in owning this domain name?”

They responded with: “We are selling the software. Would you be interested in owning the software?”

I moved on. Rejection and being called names is normal when doing outbound.

The name was later sold to the owners of WordSoftwareServices.com

 

[Premiums]

too many words..

 

[Nattydomain]

Your "selling tactic" was way to long and explaining. short and sweet generally is the key unless they ask more questions. name is not all that anyways so if it was only meant for that biz then just be done with it and move on. In the future though don't buy domains that has just 1 business in mind.

 

[strugar]

So telling businesses of a domain name you own is considered spamming?

Not sure what you're smoking or what you're doing on this forum tbh.

Telling businesses of a domain name you own is a borderline spam, but it happens every day, so majority of people are fine with that.

Opening another profile after they blocked the first one is not spam either, it's plain harassment.

You asked for members' opinion, and it seems everyone agrees on that. Yet you insulted them for telling what you asked for...

If I said you're not a person I'd like to do business with, you'd probably get upset again, but that's reality; you should not ask if you are not prepared to hear.

 

[tldboss]

I think there was no need to bring up Samsung in your pitch or explain to them why that keyword combination is good, they already use the name on facebook, they know why they choose that combination, no need to tell them it's 5L etc

You need a thick skin to do outbound, learn how to do outbound properly, even then you might still get FU responses. I don't do much outbound. However, I see many outbound sales reported in the completed sales thread, some domainers are doing well using this strategy (actively reaching out to end users).

 

[Pedro Santos]

I think there was no need to bring up Samsung in your pitch or explain to them why that keyword combination is good, they already use the name on facebook, they know why they choose that combination, no need to tell them it's 5L etc

You need a thick skin to do outbound, learn how to do outbound properly, even then you might still get FU responses. I don't do much outbound. However, I see many outbound sales reported in the completed sales thread, some domainers are doing well using this strategy (actively reaching out to end users).

I would actually prefer FU replies instead of the neverending silence I'm getting lol

 

[Kate]

You should of stopped as soon as you got blocked you sounded desperate you wont get far like that !

That's the problem when you have a name that has only two 'obvious' end users - and most likely TM issues at hand

And there was no need to dilute the conversation by quoting domain names that are totally unrelated. And you don't patronize your customers/leads. And if you take a donkey to the water, you don't force it to drink.

Sorry OP, this was a botched operation. Learn from it.

 

[biggie]

It was really helpful to get advice after trying my first outbound sale. No one can learn without making mistakes and It's not like I regret it or anything, I love the domain name anyway. About the roasting, I don't care for my haters lol they can go on and hate <3 Not here to please everyone.



Gold.

I don't think anyone "hates you", personally.

more like it's "hate on" how you corresponded...the actions you took and the attitude you take, afterward.

if and/or when you or anyone else decides to send solicitations,
then in a profound way, their actions can create negative generalities about domainers as a group.

as those negative responses from the recipients of solicitations increase, then that "pre-conceived notion effect", will... in effect, affect, the "outbound" process and those who send solicitations, as a whole.

domainers try other domainers tactics, but may not have same quality of names or same eloquence in writing and communication skills, which at the very least, could impress recipients with a well written letter

you feel me -


imo…..

 

[NYJimbo]

So telling businesses of a domain name you own is considered spamming?

Not sure what you're smoking or what you're doing on this forum tbh.

Also 5 letters is short by any means of imagination and is a selling point lol.

Learn from this.

You should have stopped bothering them once they blocked you . THE END.

If you got stuck with a domain that you cant sell to anyone else, well "Welcome to the club !". We have all done it.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

While parts of the initial pitch was OK (e.g. saying you acquired via expiry, and it is a short and strong term with possible multiple meanings), I would though have not included the phrase " to a more professional standard" that to me sounds like criticism.

Also I would definitely not have asked them if they understand how domains work, and definitely not have contacted them again after being blocked contact them again.

We should always stay concise, professional and respectful, no matter how much the person is uninformed (in our opinion).

 

[DomainVP]

Me: Well basically both these words are highly popular (Ace & GT) and it's not very unlikely that a company, like yours would choose to pick it for a name. Together it means the expert in GT cars which is a good meaning as well.

Wrong answer.

Them: [Blocked me via facebook]

[I made a new account and followed up.]

Looks desperate.

Me: I had to make a new account for facebook since you blocked me. Is this how you really do business, block people with genuine intentions without being sure?

Overkill...

Okay I'm going to stop there.

 

[CJ6]

OP disliked my post lol

Block him.

 

[lennco]

I am a big believer in the KISS principle

 

[Premiums]

Dude, if someone blocks you, move on. You seem to be harrassing them.

OP disliked my post lol