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Theft by register during bulk search

Located in General Domain Discussion, started by sputnik7, Oct 25, 2020

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Theft during bulk searching can happen?

  1. Never happened to me

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  2. It can happen

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  1. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    Has anyone had experience that from time to time domains that were previously shown as free in bulk search were not free 5 minutes later when you enter the same one in usual search?
     
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  2. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hi

    you have to own it, before it can be theft.

    also, registrar you used, may not be real-time

    or, you have could mistyped the name in bulk and put correct spelling in single search

    or, somebody else had same name in mind and registered it before you did.

    check whois, to see when domain in question was registered.

    imo...
     
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  3. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    Mistyped for sure not because I immediately thought that might be the reason so I paid full attention to it.Maybe it is about real time. Maybe fresh data late for a while in bulk search because of some reason.
    I am talking about 10-20 "steals" which happened three times out of lets say ten times like it depends who is working in register and about his or hers free time during work. I hope it's only because of real time in bulk search. I was so scared after that happened that I stopped using bulk search.:)
    Next time I will check whois!!! Very good tip.
    Thank You.
     
  4. pb

    pb Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Some registrars show the most uncanny domains as free, but "change their mind" when you try adding them to cart. It's just lazy coding (saving on api calls), not malevolence. Of course it can happen that you check a domain and it's free, then a few hours, minutes or even seconds later it's taken. Happens often with domains expired in the last few days, or with domains related to current news, but for me it also happened at least once with a domain I just thought about without any context.
     
  5. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    I don't know what's crazier. My thought of something like that or that something like that could really happen.
    I hope the namepros would buzz about it if something like this really happened often.
    Thank You for your post. last three domains I wrote: enjojrealestate.com, getinrealestate.com and ready4realestate.com . So, classic not uncanny and 2-3 minutes later and all three in that case.
    It's just nice to hear that it's not malevolence from you and it's nice not to hear buzz on napepros on this subject in general.;)
    Thank You and good luck.
     
  6. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    enjoy not enjoj :)
     
  7. DOMAIN ILLUMINATI

    DOMAIN ILLUMINATI Owner of ▲ the most expensive domain of all time. VIP Gold Account

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    That's it.
     
  8. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    I have checked three of them on who.is and yes they had already been registered months before.
    Now I can use bulk search again.
    Thanks a lot and good luck.
     
  9. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    I just have checked them on who.is and yes they had already been registered months before.
    Now I can use bulk search again.:)
    Thank you.
     
  10. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    Hahaha. You’ve found a beginner in domaining to tease him.:)
     
  11. DOMAIN ILLUMINATI

    DOMAIN ILLUMINATI Owner of ▲ the most expensive domain of all time. VIP Gold Account

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    haha no, I have better to do than teasing beginners.

    It was the simple but logical sentence in @biggie's answer that made me reply and it wasn't some indirect attack against you.

    Anyway, to answer your original question - sure, it (legally) happens - simply because the (people behind) registrars are domainers too.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2020
  12. lock

    lock DomainUsed.com VIP

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    If you think up gems why aren't you paying instantly i have spoken before of "front running" it happens at whois, registrars and 'could' happen anywhere that you type in names. If you like a name and want to buy it stop typing it out also if it goes off 10x there is a good reason to buy it if watching.
     
  13. Don Khan

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    I have private reasons for not using GoDaddy to search for unregistered domains. It might be poor coding or something else but I still have my doubts.

    After all we don't live in a fair world.

    What if registrars can grab domains and backdate them?
    They actually own the programs, what are the things they can view from their end that's hidden to the public? I can go on and on. But don't mind me. I'm sleep typing again
     
  14. Akinola Taiwo

    Akinola Taiwo Established Member

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    The best thing is to register the name instantly....you don't need to just type the name and leave it.... Thinking it will remain unregistered...it happens to me times without number...

    I have stop to search for name when I am not ready or have cash on my card.... Some register also are domaining.
     
  15. MasterOfMyDomains

    MasterOfMyDomains Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    What if registrars can buy names and back date them? Hardly likely :xf.eek:
     
  16. Gube

    Gube Just do it Gold Account

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    To add on the "back dating" part is that, yes a registrar can change the registration date it has internally and on their whois endpoint, however, the registration date at the registry will not be "back dated".
    It will stay exactly the same and only users performing a whois/rdap request on the registrar endpoint will see the false date, but it's always best to refer to the registry for the most accurate information if you don't need anything the registrar controls/publishes such as the contacts
     
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  17. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hi

    just a note

    i would never use gobaddy, to check domain availability

    use another registrar to check, then go register at gd if you wish.


    also, there have been reported instances of "frontrunning" domains at the registrar level
    the article below is from 2012
    https://www.dirjournal.com/articles/godaddy-front-running-domains/

    imo...
     
  18. tupungato

    tupungato Wizard VIP

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    I definitely experience GoDaddy misreporting domain availability, especially when you come from a third party link. For example from a domain suggestion service.
     
  19. twiki

    twiki Top Contributor VIP Gold Account

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    This is called domain frontrunning, and it is still a problem today. (theft is a different thing though)
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2020
  20. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    I think it is about some kind of time delay relating to bulk search. I checked those domains on the who.is page and they have been registered months ago before then showed available in bulk search. I don' believe that they are so much connected. The matter of the fact is that today's world is unfair but in this case I think it is matter of time delay regarding bulk search or something similar to that. Good luck.
     
  21. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    Interesting information. Thank You.
     
  22. alcy

    alcy Top Contributor VIP

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    amazing how threads like these always end same way. plz just consider b4 posting that gd and others have better things to do than just the silly names we search for.
     
  23. Gube

    Gube Just do it Gold Account

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    At that scale, it's not done by hand.
    Sometime ago the same thing happened at NetSol and probably still happens but it's difficult to reproduce it, however all the names have something in common, they were dropped on the same day and left unpaid at netsol.
    They also send all of these names on Snapnames..
    This is still called frontrunning however.
     
  24. pinkdragon

    pinkdragon Established Member

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    Make a list with your wanted domains.

    Get foxwhois (free for .com, paid for any other extensions), and check if they are free to register.
     
  25. sputnik7

    sputnik7 Established Member

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    it's wasn't on Godady it happened on Dynadot. But more another very good suggestion from You. :)
    Good point.
    I see by yours clever and witty thinking that you are very good at domaining in general.
    Thank you.
     

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