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Are you denying real wages increased, poverty decreased under Pres. Trump? I wonder what happened in 2021...

Overall, the poverty level improved by 0.1% in 2021; though most noticeably, American Indian and Alaskan Native populations poverty increased by 4.2% @ approx. 20% (tables A.1, C.1).
 
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I have to give up to the PeePs from 1964 to 1968 , Atleast they were honest and forth coming with wanting a change of Gov , they didn’t hide their affiliations , not that it makes a difference in the end result concerning Gov and other issues , but it certainly makes a difference in integrity when all the dust settles.

The same will happen 60 years later , this time around , but the people who are hiding behind their affiliations will be looked at completely different when all the dust settles this time around.

1964 thru 1968 , and you can watch these vids on YouTube and other places , were outwardly honest with wanting Marxism implemented , while many road behind the Socialism wanted . At least they were honest , unlike the people of the Left today . I guess they “were” assuming bringing a shock and awe situation would get them what they want this time around, but then there were enough to pronounce their want for Marxism that it is fully in transparency mode to the Right now , in the end, it will show that these people can no longer be trusted in society . Perhaps a tactical play by the Left this time around , will end up biting them straight in the ass IMO , and there will be no reason to outwardly profess affiliations when it’s all over , because then, they will have lied and deceived 50% of the nation , and will not ever be trusted again IMO
 
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You can not save the whole world, look at history how many times it has been tried and failed , it is simply not possible IMO , helping the poverty, the very minority can be achieved , but full equality is not even a reasonable expectation , who knows exactly why , but there is a reason for majorities and minorities , rich , upper middle class, middle class , and lower income . Although we may disagree with it , it’s life and has been since the beginning of time .
 
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Overall, the poverty level improved by 0.1% in 2021; though most noticeably, American Indian and Alaskan Native populations poverty increased by 4.2% @ approx. 20% (tables A.1, C.1).

Thanks Joe!
 
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Even more funny, the US dollar is doing better then every world currency around the world (even) the British Pound, despite the rough nature of the US markets altogether, wether realestate, stocks, or crypto all falling into the furnace ...

The current US administration has printed a lot of money which normally would deteriorate the value of the US dollar

what gives ?

Great observations. (I had to laugh when you mentioned the petrodollar's "integrity".) My take on the US dollar is that it is the last ship to sink. People are fleeing to safety from their depreciating currencies. Yet, in the end, it will be the final fiat currency to collapse because it is just as unsustainable as all the others.

Some people might think this was planned. Developed economies have been over-extended for many years now. 2008 came and went - an instead of addressing the fundamental problems, they applied bandages and allowed them to fester. Western leaders and elites have no way out except default (which will happen if they keep raising interest rates) or extreme inflation. The elite will never choose default because they would be hated by the masses. ("Sorry, but you're pension is cancelled" is not a winning campaign slogan.) Instead they will debase the currency so that they can maintain payments. You'll still get your $1000 pension, but it will only buy a fraction of what it used to. The blame for this can more easily be retargeted. ("It's all Putin's fault. Those dirty Russians!")

At some point, debts will be wiped out, savings will be wiped out, banks will limit/stop withdrawals, etc. and then currency values will be reset, everyone's problems will be solved a centralized digital currency.

At that point, every single transaction you make - from a scoop of ice cream to the corner massage parlor - will be recorded in a central database. You will have zero privacy and the government will have zero transparency. Your money can be seized or restricted with the push of a button, and it will be for an increasing number of newly-created "offenses." Kind of like the way Twitter and Facebook capriciously suspend or shut down accounts. But instead of losing your social media voice, you'll lose your money.
 
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Great observations. (I had to laugh when you mentioned the petrodollar's "integrity".) My take on the US dollar is that it is the last ship to sink. People are fleeing to safety from their depreciating currencies. Yet, in the end, it will be the final fiat currency to collapse because it is just as unsustainable as all the others.

Some people might think this was planned. Developed economies have been over-extended for many years now. 2008 came and went - an instead of addressing the fundamental problems, they applied bandages and allowed them to fester. Western leaders and elites have no way out except default (which will happen if they keep raising interest rates) or extreme inflation. The elite will never choose default because they would be hated by the masses. ("Sorry, but you're pension is cancelled" is not a winning campaign slogan.) Instead they will debase the currency so that they can maintain payments. You'll still get your $1000 pension, but it will only buy a fraction of what it used to. The blame for this can more easily be retargeted. ("It's all Putin's fault. Those dirty Russians!")

At some point, debts will be wiped out, savings will be wiped out, banks will limit/stop withdrawals, etc. and then currency values will be reset, everyone's problems will be solved a centralized digital currency.

At that point, every single transaction you make - from a scoop of ice cream to the corner massage parlor - will be recorded in a central database. You will have zero privacy and the government will have zero transparency. Your money can be seized or restricted with the push of a button, and it will be for an increasing number of newly-created "offenses." Kind of like the way Twitter and Facebook capriciously suspend or shut down accounts. But instead of losing your social media voice, you'll lose your money.
We don’t have any privacy, right now 😂, I have to laugh about it, because my wife and I will talk about something , when we open a website , what adds do we get? Exactly what we were talking about.

Well, I do think most of this crap was planned out over two decades and put into play starting 2020 , my biggest issue with it all, all they had to do was introduce the stuff properly , there was no need to lie and deceive the people , people riot anyway , people riot over stupid shit , so they didn’t lie and deceive the people because of any worries of any rioting or possible over throws , truth be known, it most likely is not possible to over throw , these people have such technological weaponry, drones , microwave stuff and ect , if people got unruly and they wanted to stop it, they wouldn’t even have to get up off a couch to do so . But they insist on the continuation of lies and deceit , because apparently , they like to see the people squirm and be fearful , so it’s pure evil IMO ..

They will do the whole Centralized bank thing with digital currency , but I think they will use their common denominator of “Equality For All” as their reasoning . That and other BS .
 
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With all the above in my last post said, the Left, particularly Millennials and Generation Z , think they are going to save the World😂, reference 1964-1968 , same philosophies as they are rallying around ,they want a type of Socialism so it pays them monthly , there are always posts by millennials and GenZ on Reddit and other social media platforms complaining about working for a living , 40 hour work weeks should be shortened , never enough pay , having to pay their acquired bills… they want a monthly government given allowance , but, they also like Marxism , because Karl is their daddy , from what I have read, they like the bare roots of Marxism , it further plays into their wants for free stuff . Then , they want a government policing platform that completely meets their needs , so like , Marijuana recreational legalization , Queers galore trying to fascinate people with their doctrines that smut is ok out in public places , a slinging dong in a parking lot is ok, it’s just expressing . Indoctrinating children is good , because it helps them identify with who they truly are .

All kinds of shit like that ^^^^^^^^^^^

And , definitely not all millennials and Gen Z , there are still some good young folks left in society , but most of these aren’t Leftist
 
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Thanks Joe!

In 2013, the poverty level of the American Indian was on par with average US poverty level. Indigenous poverty rates doubled over the past decade in America. What happened?
 
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In 2013, the poverty level of the American Indian was on par with average US poverty level. Indigenous poverty rates doubled over the past decade in America. What happened?

 
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In 2013, the poverty level of the American Indian was on par with average US poverty level. Indigenous poverty rates doubled over the past decade in America. What happened?
Tell that to the NFL-NBA- which are high majority so called indigenous people , tell that to the Billionaire rappers , kayne west , lil Wayne , snoop dogg , JayZ , Beyoncé , Rap is almost 100% so called indigenous .

Are We talking about blue blue collar workers ?? White people have the same problems

Native Americans make up what % of the total US population ??? We already know not much at all . However the native Americans thrive extremely well financially in Oklahoma

Indigenous people , come talk to some Texas Mexicans that aren’t citizens of the United States , you will see how people survive on extremely low wages , the illegal Mexicans are pure survivors , they live quite a few to a house , but damned if they aren’t able to lease a house . I have seen many excel into a green card , and able to actually purchase a house

Because they Work hard to make it happen for them and their family

I think you may be looking for free stuff , NOTHING is free , no government gifts people anything , a price is payed for any so called freebies
 
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Mmmkkk , let’s get right into this , Did the Native Americans , Fight the white man for land , food , rights????? Yes , did the Native Americans lose their fights to the white man ??? Yes . There were major battles for all this stuff , there was fierce fighting . I am not saying it’s right , but that is the way humans take things from people . And always have dating back to Neanderthals .

Right or Wrong , Wars , Battles and Fights ensue for the rights to most things , if you lose , you lose your stuff . That’s the most simple way to explain history , If you lose , you lose what your war, battles or fights are about .
 
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But , as history will also show, people come back and fight again , and again , and again , usually with the same results , 100-200-300-400 years of ass whooping after ass whooping .

Much of makes not a lot of sense , but has gone on throughout the history of time in the world

No one just takes anything from anyone , it is fought over and for . The winner writes the history of the affair , he who holds the gold, makes the rules , that is as old as the beginning of time as well, and still holds true to this day.
 
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Because they don't want their citizens to starve or freeze to death. The only country helped by Nord pipeline sabotage is Ukraine.

The clowns managing Joe Biden may have given the green light but you can't take anything Joe Biden says seriously.



So does the fertilizer Europe uses to grow their wheat. Industrial farming has made food accessible to the poor but it is unsustainable without industrial materials.

I’m sorry if it wasn’t more obvious, the question I was asking was rhetorical for those who did not know how Europe was supporting Russia (and) genuinely have to, because Europe has / was not prepared for this scenario

You’re mistaken about the (only) country being Ukraine ... I’m sorry, but I will not give that much intelligence and forethought to a man, who went from being a comedian to running a nation that formed its military off the backbone of neo nazis / and that is a fact !

Zelenskyy is a pawn and yes, so is Biden

And unfortunately you’re correct, it shouldn’t be that way, through out the course of history; man has sought for the attention of a leader ... leaders are supposed to be taken with the utmost seriousness, both in good times and bad times ^ don’t confuse a leader though with a dictator ^ totally different fields.

The current plan is not on the peoples side, if Zelenskyy was caught sabotaging the pipeline ^ the consequences would be grave for Ukraine ^ a man that is seen by many as this shining beacon of hope would instantly turn to a dark shadow
 
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Mmmkkk , let’s get right into this , Did the Native Americans , Fight the white man for land , food , rights????? Yes , did the Native Americans lose their fights to the white man ??? Yes .
Long before America, diseased Europeans decimated the population so that even the average global temperature dropped...and your people say that human activity has no impact on climate, geesh.

Imagine having more people die from smallpox and influenza than the entire modern-day populations of New York City, London, Paris, Tokyo, and Beijing combined! Do they teach these facts in US history classes? :unsure:
 
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Indigenous poverty rates doubled over the past decade in America. What happened?
If they don't want to be indigent, maybe they shouldn't call themselves indigenous. Seems self fulfilling!:playful:
 
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You live off fake news, don't you?
I prefer to live off the land...or at least I try. :xf.wink:

If they don't want to be indigent, maybe they shouldn't call themselves indigenous. Seems self fulfilling!:playful:
I wouldn't expect you to know the different etymologies. Root of indigeous comes from Latin noun indigena meaning "native".
 
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...he who holds the gold, makes the rules , that is as old as the beginning of time as well, and still holds true to this day.

The rules will not protect us from bad ideas... the only solution to a bad idea is a better idea. 💡
 
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While the geniuses in Canada are obsessed with shitting on America and trying to make us look bad, , China just opened 3 Communist Chinese police stations in Canada.

You neglected to mention the Chinese police station that opened in New York :xf.wink:

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