The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

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1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Domainace]

China is now in military exercises with India , I knew China and Russia were doing military exercises , now India ,between those three countries the population. Is over 2 Billion 144 Million people .

I wouldn't worry about India. They are not going to back Russia. And they are one step away from war with China - there is no way they will back China in any conflict.

They all have an interest in reducing US dominance of the world and the financial markets - and in that I support them. The US dollar as global reserve has helped to enable some of the worst adventurism by the US. That only profits the wealthy and connected. (They tell the little people they are "protecting their freedom.") Americans would be much better off if they had a smaller government that was working for all the people, not just the people with piles of money.

The bigger problem is that all of these governments are run by gangsters who have way too much control. Don't know how we will overcome that.

 

[Cannuck]

They all have an interest in reducing US dominance of the world and the financial markets...

The bigger problem is that all of these governments are run by gangsters who have way too much control. Don't know how we will overcome that...

You nailed it ...possibly one reason why the MAGA thingy won't cut the mustard.

 

[Domainace]

You nailed it ...possibly one reason why the MAGA thingy won't cut the mustard.

That MAGA thingy is the only movement calling for smaller government. Until there's a better option, they are the best hope - flawed as they may be. The Dems call for more a powerful government, so they are certainly a step in the wrong direction.

 

[Sam1234]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575121746327388162

 

[Cannuck]

That MAGA thingy is the only movement calling for smaller government. Until there's a better option, they are the best hope - flawed as they may be. The Dems call for more a powerful government, so they are certainly a step in the wrong direction.

Smaller government or smaller spending? Funny how Trump gave BIG corporations $2T in tax cuts that never trickled down to workers and just added more to the US deficit. Not sure how the Biden Rescue Plan will work, but hopefully peeps in need will receive the help.

 

[Sam1234]

Smaller government or smaller spending? Funny how Trump gave BIG corporations $2T in tax cuts that never trickled down to workers and just added more to the US deficit. Not sure how the Biden Rescue Plan will work, but hopefully peeps in need will receive the help.

Which tax cuts are you referring to? I only remember the ones that drastically lowered the tax debt of every single person I know, and also aided economic recovery and (factually) created jobs.

 

[Cannuck]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575121746327388162

Who's the genius?

Which tax cuts are you referring to? I only remember the ones that drastically lowered the tax debt of every single person I know.

Take from Peter to pay Paul.

 

[mr-x]

The Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines waerejust sabatoged. Without the pipeline Europe will freeze this winter. All the "officials" are blaming Russia for it, on the theory that Russia would sabatoge their own pipeline to spite Europe, rather than simply not sending gas to Europe.

We've been sending billions of dollars plus rockets to Ukraine on a regular basis for a while now, looks like Biden and his handlers want a war.

They do but I don't think the USA sabotaged the pipeline, more likely it was Ukraine with the USA's permission.

 

[mr-x]

Who's the genius?

Take from Peter to pay Paul.

Trump gave tax credits to companies that were keeping billions of $$ of shore to avoid taxes. Revenue to the federal government actually increased. Wages also rose faster than inflation helping low income families move to the middle class.

The exact opposite has happened under Biden. If you put aside your prejudice and look at the numbers without spin from the left you would find Trump economy was the best in decades.

 

[mr-x]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575121746327388162

Trump is the only president besides Jimmy Carter that actually worked for peace in my life time. Obama tried but didn't understand the geo-politics like Trump.

Nixon was a great negotiator and cracked the door to relations with China and Russia but got caught up in Vietnam. Pres. Ford was a placeholder and didn't serve a full term. Ronald Reagan was a great Pres., understood foreign politics but couldn't keep out of South America; Lots of clandestine operations.

If Trump was President, Afghanistan would still be in Taliban control but we wouldn't have been chased out, leaving billions in armament behind.

 

[.X.]

That MAGA thingy is the only movement calling for smaller government. Until there's a better option, they are the best hope - flawed as they may be. The Dems call for more a powerful government, so they are certainly a step in the wrong direction.

What has taken place somewhat reminds me of 1964 to 1968 movements of all sorts , wanting change of the gov system , a lot of activism , somewhat the same stuff IMO

 

[.X.]

Who's the genius?

Take from Peter to pay Paul.

Consider this , if you think Trump was a “Divider” Biden Is the same , a “Divider” as he made that dark speech regarding Republicans , MAGA

Much of what has , and is , taking place is somewhat a rerun from 1964 thru 1968 IMO , a wanted change of the Gov system , words of Marxism and Communism would be better but yet using Socialism as the back drop, Black activist getting change in the middle of it all , opportunist that don’t really sway one way or other trying to jump in and get action how they can get it .

All of this coincides much with 1964 thru 1968 IMO Same Plays , Different Times

 

[Cannuck]

Which tax cuts are you referring to?

The permanent corporate tax cuts in place. Individual tax cuts set to expire in 2025.

Trump gave tax credits to companies that were keeping billions of $$ of shore to avoid taxes. Revenue to the federal government actually increased. Wages also rose faster than inflation helping low income families move to the middle class.

You don't have to be an economist to understand that the vast majority of corporate stocks are held by the wealthy who benefitted most from the tax windfall (including foreign investors).

The exact opposite has happened under Biden. If you put aside your prejudice and look at the numbers without spin from the left you would find Trump economy was the best in decades.

Let's have a look-see...

 

[.X.]

The permanent corporate tax cuts in place. Individual tax cuts set to expire in 2025.


You don't have to be an economist to understand that the vast majority of corporate stocks are held by the wealthy who benefitted most from the tax windfall (including foreign investers).


Let's have a look-see...

I look at how I am living , how are things in my world and other blue collar peoples world , that is what I pay attention to , if my world economically is spinning in at least in a positive direction , then I am good , I can take it from there. I can’t worry about the billionaires and millionaires and what they do , i have a life to live , food to be cooked , lawn and tree work to be done , house cleaning , then surf the net , watch tv , fish , hunt and ect on down time .

My world under Donald Trump economically was drastically better , than my world under Joe Biden … the same with my friends and blue collars workers I know .

What politicians bicker about , what is this, what is that , at the end of the day doesn’t matter , it’s how is my living situation as well as my friends and family .

No one is ever going to control all of DC , BS , most don’t have time to even try , people are living life .

 

[.X.]

I think some millions of Americans are looking at their way of life under the current administration, they are seeing 100s of more dollars a month being spent with Biden’s inflation , they have seen , Biden is divider , not a Uniter , they are feeling the crunch financially and it hurts under the current administration .

Joe can be a divider instead of a uniter , Joe can play politician and the right and left DC can be at each other’s throats, but when the citizens get hit hard in the pocket book financially like we have and are, administration is bound for change, people want to live their lives.

RED WAVE Coming in just over 4 weeks from today . People will correct their bank accounts ..

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

They do but I don't think the USA sabotaged the pipeline, more likely it was Ukraine with the USA's permission.

He literally said it ... so either <<< this current administration acted upon their words or >>> Russia is making it look like the USA attacked their pipeline to get Europe even further on their side

And if you don’t believe that the EU isn’t on the side of Russia, then look at how $100B has been paid by the EU to Russia since the start of the war ...

why is that ?

40% of natural gas in Europe comes from Russia

 

[King]

Why is the media always silent about all the crap creepy Joe says?

 

[.X.]

He literally said it ... so either <<< this current administration acted upon their words or >>> Russia is making it look like the USA attacked their pipeline to get Europe even further on their side

And if you don’t believe that the EU isn’t on the side of Russia, then look at how $100B has been paid by the EU to Russia since the start of the war ...

why is that ?

40% of natural gas in Europe comes from Russia

That video may very well become the most spoken thing in Europe very soon , it’s sink or swim for the EU as the winter approaches and the loss of fuels , Europe is extremely strong , but help has to come soon , I believe it will .

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

That video may very well become the most spoken thing in Europe very soon , it’s sink or swim for the EU as the winter approaches and the loss of fuels , Europe is extremely strong , but help has to come soon , I believe it will .

I’m American so I’ll tell you my opinion,

As it stands, I do not believe it’s a good idea for the US or the EU to get any further involved in this madness

Yea you could say that’s terrible ^ but what’s really terrible is the fact that all of this drama is leading up to someone eventually pushing the shiny red button

Ukraine and Russia have been fighting since 2014 ... there are plenty of videos online showing the reality of essentially armed mercenaries fighting on both sides, and sadly all we have seen from this conflict, is a further pull into it ...

The US has to stop poking the bear and the bear needs to hibernate for a while.

Zelenskyy has over $50B in “military” contributions from the US government alone, if he wants to fight the war and keep it going, he has enough money to arm every one who wants to be apart of the war ^ but I’m not going to placate the situation and say there is a chance of them winning

The media isn’t making things any better.

 

[.X.]

I’m American so I’ll tell you my opinion,

As it stands, I do not believe it’s a good idea for the US or the EU to get any further involved in this madness

Yea you could say that’s terrible ^ but what’s really terrible is the fact that all of this drama is leading up to someone eventually pushing the shiny red button

Ukraine and Russia have been fighting since 2014 ... there are plenty of videos online showing the reality of essentially armed mercenaries fighting on both sides, and sadly all we have seen from this conflict, is a further pull into it ...

The US has to stop poking the bear and the bear needs to hibernate for a while.

Zelenskyy has over $50B in “military” contributions from the US government alone, if he wants to fight the war and keep it going, he has enough money to arm every one who wants to be apart of the war ^ but I’m not going to placate the situation and say there is a chance of them winning

The media isn’t making things any better.

You make some excellent points .

The coming days , not weeks, are going to be a nail biter I think , Putin is now really backed against the wall, China wants the conflict to end asap , Biden appears he will fund this conflict until the end , causing the conflict itself to be in question by some as to who is fighting who, the US is supplying cash + modern tech weaponry, so pretty much everything with the exception of actual American soldiers is US .

The shiny red button itself doesn’t appear to be in play , however by looking at the big picture , small payload , short range Nukes may be in play by Russia . Perhaps as the very last option , the conflict has entered that last phase as Russia has almost exhausted its conventional availabilities. I think Putin will lay it down too. I think the final decision will be made between Putin and Xi Jinping , I don’t think China exactly wants to engage in the conflict, China has their feet into a conflict with Taiwan, and possibly India as well. At the same time, I don’t think China wants any chance of radiation fallout from even small payload Nukes. We will see the decision soon I think , Risk vs Reward ? Maybe, we will see very soon.

Biden has spent since the day he took office , now the American people are paying for it heavily . With a fairly depleted military , the US should not even consider entering any conflict . Who really knows the status on US Modern tech weaponry as well , how much do we have available now ?

All that coupled with a US hard recession looming on the horizon , Thanks Joe , not even a complete two years in office and Biden has shit away the US economy . Provided Republicans win the senate and Congress in 4 weeks , it’s possible that Biden’s economic damage can be reversed to be far less painful for American citizens . Biden voters may have voted themselves out of house and home if the economic circumstances don’t shift very quickly .

My gut tells me the EU will be fine , most likely help is on the way . Germany is as stubborn as a mule , hopefully they listen up going forward .

 

[mr-x]

People sharing this video of VP Harris are racist.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575465283325657095

 

[mr-x]

The permanent corporate tax cuts in place. Individual tax cuts set to expire in 2025.


You don't have to be an economist to understand that the vast majority of corporate stocks are held by the wealthy who benefitted most from the tax windfall (including foreign investors).

Wealthy people don't horde their tax cuts in a big underground vault like Duck McScrooge. They invest their money which fuels growth.

Let's have a look-see...

Clown show. I wonder what world wide even happened in 2019...

You're giving Obama credit for a recovery he had little to nothing to do with.

Who was running the USA from 2016 to 2019?

Pretty simple.

These are the stats that matter. President Trump raised more people out of poverty in four years than Obama's did in eight years, while dealing with a pandemic.

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

You make some excellent points .

The coming days , not weeks, are going to be a nail biter I think , Putin is now really backed against the wall, China wants the conflict to end asap , Biden appears he will fund this conflict until the end , causing the conflict itself to be in question by some as to who is fighting who, the US is supplying cash + modern tech weaponry, so pretty much everything with the exception of actual American soldiers is US .

The shiny red button itself doesn’t appear to be in play , however by looking at the big picture , small payload , short range Nukes may be in play by Russia . Perhaps as the very last option , the conflict has entered that last phase as Russia has almost exhausted its conventional availabilities. I think Putin will lay it down too. I think the final decision will be made between Putin and Xi Jinping , I don’t think China exactly wants to engage in the conflict, China has their feet into a conflict with Taiwan, and possibly India as well. At the same time, I don’t think China wants any chance of radiation fallout from even small payload Nukes. We will see the decision soon I think , Risk vs Reward ? Maybe, we will see very soon.

Biden has spent since the day he took office , now the American people are paying for it heavily . With a fairly depleted military , the US should not even consider entering any conflict . Who really knows the status on US Modern tech weaponry as well , how much do we have available now ?

All that coupled with a US hard recession looming on the horizon , Thanks Joe , not even a complete two years in office and Biden has shit away the US economy . Provided Republicans win the senate and Congress in 4 weeks , it’s possible that Biden’s economic damage can be reversed to be far less painful for American citizens . Biden voters may have voted themselves out of house and home if the economic circumstances don’t shift very quickly .

My gut tells me the EU will be fine , most likely help is on the way . Germany is as stubborn as a mule , hopefully they listen up going forward .

I agree with you to some degree, I believe the USA is at the stages of a proxy war ^ funny thing though, we can thank Putin for ending covid ... not a word of it from the media

Putin is a smart man, brutal, but smart nonetheless, (so) I would agree with your statement that nukes would be a last resort ... That said, it doesn’t take much to twist someones mind ^ and being pushed into the corner could resort to Russia showing their claws and utilizing a smaller nuke to show their seriousness in this situation ... or a “false flag” event to encourage the Russian people to trust Russia and Putin ...

propaganda at its finest

As far as China and Russian relations go, they are a customer(s) ^ to each other : it was the same when the US was purchasing oil from Russia / Russia and the US never really got along, however they benefited from each other (but) Russia doesn’t need the west ... Russia has its own system aside from Swift as well as the means to crush the petro dollar by undermining the integrity of the number one currency used in oil contract purchases ...

Muammar Gaddafi attempted the same thing / what happened

Suddam Hussein attempted the same thing / what happened

War is the only way the current US administration can sway the mind of the general population and maintain their power “if” they win : they can’t without mutually assured destruction ^ luckily, we are more intelligent and as “we the people” - we stand above these politicians and ultimately choose our own fate (when) it’s not manipulated.

Even more funny, the US dollar is doing better then every world currency around the world (even) the British Pound, despite the rough nature of the US markets altogether, wether realestate, stocks, or crypto all falling into the furnace ...

The current US administration has printed a lot of money which normally would deteriorate the value of the US dollar

what gives ?

Interesting to say the least ^

The media isn’t saying it, but India and China are treating each other as customers ... and the west is supplying them as well ^ both voluntary and involuntary ...

I’d say the EU is on her own at this moment, and the current people we have steering the ship over here aren’t any better unfortunately ^

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

People sharing this video of VP Harris are racist.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575465283325657095

amazing

 

[mr-x]

He literally said it ... so either <<< this current administration acted upon their words or >>> Russia is making it look like the USA attacked their pipeline to get Europe even further on their side

And if you don’t believe that the EU isn’t on the side of Russia, then look at how $100B has been paid by the EU to Russia since the start of the war ...

why is that ?

Because they don't want their citizens to starve or freeze to death. The only country helped by Nord pipeline sabotage is Ukraine.

The clowns managing Joe Biden may have given the green light but you can't take anything Joe Biden says seriously.

40% of natural gas in Europe comes from Russia

So does the fertilizer Europe uses to grow their wheat. Industrial farming has made food accessible to the poor but it is unsustainable without industrial materials.