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The USA Political Thread

Located in The Break Room, started by lennco, Jul 20, 2012

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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

  1. Both Parties

    215 votes
    45.3%
  2. Neither Party

    48 votes
    10.1%
  3. Democrats

    91 votes
    19.2%
  4. Republicans

    121 votes
    25.5%
Total: 475 vote(s)
  1. sonatime

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    If I am singling anything out it is what ideas you are advancing on here and what Russell Means did are not compatible in my mind. It is as if you may post his videos but when I listen to his message it is not anything I hear in your posts. By pushing openly or passively leftist ideas you are giving credence to government intrusion and control in all facets of our lives. If you think residential schools was a bad policy and the intended or unintended consequences affected your communities for generations. What are you going to do when progressive ed comes to teach your community's kids about picking their own genders and mandating puberty blockers for such with the threat of taking kids away from their parents if they don't comply. Radical progressive ideas are coming for our whole society now.

    I think we all enjoy listening to your life stories here, they seem to be rich in experiences a few could dream of. If this is a political thread then most of our division will be with facts and fiction, lies and truth, and these days individual freedom vs collectivism. You will not hear me advocating for leftist marxists ideas and solutions.
     
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  2. Cannuck

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    I read about ballot fraud, heard the news, and Trump speak...of course who can you believe? I don't even want to post any references anymore, because they would be considered fake news depending on who reads them. So if that were the case, what's the point of arguing, or even voting anymore? O_o
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. It's only through open dialogue that we can resolve any issues. Interestingly, I find reverse-discrimination even harder to deal with than discrimination. Have you ever heard the term "apple" - red on the outside, white on the inside? I find that equally distressing, so where can anyone who wishes to be assimilated into society turn if on both ends of the spectrum they are judged by their colour?
    I have adapted, and happily, have been accepted for who I am as an individual and free-thinker...anyone is free to disagree. It s my hope that by understanding one another's commonalities, we can work out those differences in order to come to some mutual understanding. It's all to easy to hide behind a computer screen and perpetuate the Hollywood myth (We had a visit from Hollywood today who thought I was a Conservative, lol). Hey, I even called him out on that, go figure!

    I was just watching a video on the Globalist agenda. There's no point in me posting the video, you already know what their agenda is right? I'm not so sure that its not such a bad idea. If you feel any form of socialism is the first step toward Marxism, why don't you try living in a commune, or have you actually visited a Communist country before? I have, it was definitely an eye-opener - and that's not at all what I ascribe to.
    Socialism, even the word, extends to social media, or tribalism, or community - some agreement, some I have issues with, even tribal - on different levels, but that's another thread.

    I believe that what we are hammering out is the root of our societies' systemic problems, and whether or not this is a US political thread, the discussion definitely belongs here. As for the environmental issues, we're very fortunate to live in a country like Canada. The US can learn alot from the Great White North. Saving a few geese isn't the issue, I hunt those for dinner. I'm talking about the Big Picture! We can also agree to disagree if that helps.
     
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  5. .X.

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    had the US ever been a socialism or any other government system for that matter... It would be feasible to discuss options right now, That isn't the case and when Americans see people in the streets that outwardly chant they hate the country or are protesting for a Socialism or Communism America.... Americans want these people removed from the country, we can fix racism, women's rights and ect... our system works flawlessly for those who support it.... the 1st amendment is not demanding another form of government in the streets of America... The people that have been doing this should be removed from the US IMO..... we will NEVER change our system in the US without plenty of bloodshed.
     
  7. .X.

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    They keep speaking of a Plandemic winter Surge... how in the hell they do know??? they seem so sure almost positive that a HUGE surge of covid-19 is inevitable...they Still don't have an accurate test for testing for covid-19 .... they don't know shit except they are going to mount up some numbers of a surge of covid.... one thing we are pretty shure of.... we will have Influenza, stomach virus, strep throat, common colds.... they can fuck their plandemic and harvest numbers of false bullshit... i have not played from the beginning and i wont start now.
     
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    I think people want to be treated as individuals. The system is rigged by big corporations that lobby and control the government, be it USA, Canada or other Western countries. What is a corporation anyway? A group of like-minded people thinking and acting for their collective wealth. Heck, I even own a corporation!

    Socialism, in my mind, is like any tribe, whether it be the right or left. A collective mind. Should we all agree to disagree on everything and go on with our daily lives? I don't think that's a reality.

    Communism is a whole different ballgame. I don't ascribe to Communism, where an elite control the masses and leave no room for individual thought - Big Brother so to speak. I think we are headed in that direction worldwide through technology like FB using facial recognition software, and mass media etc spreading and disseminating lies and propaganda.

    Globalism, in my mind, comprises different aspects. I am all for local shops, small businesses and the like. But there are other aspects that we as rational human beings must come to terms with - the pandemic, Global Warming and so on, that get thrown into the mix, just like a Bill being passed thru Congress. If you don't believe the scientists, can't trust the media or our leaders, than we're seriously Fukked IMO.
     
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    I believe SOME of the scientist ... Like Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson .... As he said " covid-19 is an "experiment" I take Dr. Tyson at his word... we are being fucked by people cruel enough to implement an experiment on the population of the world... i don't have any other way to say it... but Dr. Tyson is 100% correct..... when you let this experiment get inside your head and run it psychological rampage ... you are losing the battle IMO ..Simple...Don't be a victim
     
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    Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson was right bout the experiment. He talked about it as if it were something bigger in the works. It is IMO, it will demonstrate how different societies cope. US has not fared well under Covid restrictions by any means. There isn't alot of difference between Canada and USA, except that you have 10X the population, but most people here live in cities that are in some cases, just as densely populated. Our population/age pyramids are similar too, maybe even older in Canada, similar diets, similar habits and so on. The difference is? ...our government, and perhaps people's willingness to support it. We have a Social Democracy, although it's called a Constitutional Monarchy vs a Constitutional Republic, that's not much difference, since I haven't heard a speech from the Throne in about 30 years!
     
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    Yes, I am aware of the term "apple" but understanding how it is used in a community would not be simple. It could be humorous or an insult or a complement:) but since you pointed out it is discriminatory I will imagine it would create some form of distrust among people. I know nothing of life and culture on a reserve or one that is remote. Would imagine, not getting along could be fatal in a harsh remote environment.

    Under the tutelage of progressives, discrimination and racism theory and application is always evolving or more accurately devolving. Nothing is happening by a chance and is well crafted to undo basic understanding and how society relates.

    Do you not see that devolving our culture into the most basic differences like skin color is a cultural marxist foment? Bringing chaos first so they can rebuild or re-engineer accordingly. Maybe someone should ask them to stop and let people live their own lives?:)

    Globalist agenda utopian style?:) Aren't we seeing it being put into action already? or you think once everyone submits that is when real utopia will start? The book of Revelations doesn't predict good outcomes from this project. If the end comes it will probably be when individuals are no longer free and have no independent will of their own.

    I was born in a socialist society but one doesn't have to live it to read about it, its history, and understand it and then promptly reject it:) There is nothing better to experience than society build on freedom and voluntary interaction.

    Someone here mistaking you for a conservative? How dare he/she?:) I will be the first one to set him straight comrade Cannuck:)
     
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  13. Silentptnr

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    Almost over folks. :)
     
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    A lot dreams (will be) shattered folks. :)
     
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    One thing i have learned concerning covid-19 ... as Dr. Tyson says... it is indeed an experiment... but covid-19 was the beginning of the experiment ..... the experiment goes far deeper... the experiment reaches out to cause a very unsteady psychological effect among the people of the world... further to cause civil unrest through out the world... look at the trickle down effect of civil unrest since covid-19 was introduced... this civil unrest will continue...you will see.... until the narratives of the experiment are fully completed and accomplished... everything that is going all at one time in no coincidence what so ever ... it is all part of the experiment .... you could call that conspiracy theory.... or you could except that evil people are behind this experiment and the farther you get sucked into it... the worse your physiological health will be .... these people didn't just one day decide to execute this experiment... they spent years devising the experiment that with the use of scientist ,psychologist and psychiatrist ... they know the exact effects that would take place to humans before the experiment was even close to be executed...... the choice is up to each individual as to how far they leave reality or not leave reality .... its a decision i base on Science... The choice is really yours... not the experiment
     
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    I am looking forward to it also:) any amount of intelligence takes a beating here. Hope conservatives get their freedom and socialists do some honest work for honest pay:)

    Had to edit, not sure what I am smoking but this struggle is not stopping anytime soon:)
     
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  17. Silentptnr

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    No matter the outcome, Biden will make a much better president. :)

    I wonder if Trump really will try to leave the country? Where would he go?
     
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    Who wants a president with dementia?:) Even if I don't think well of Biden, let the ailing man retire, and if he can dodge legal issues, live out his life in comfort and style paid by corrupt political career:)
     
  19. Silentptnr

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    He sounds very good to me and millions of others. :)
     
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    What ever mind enhancing drugs Biden is plied with, nothing is consequence free, it will only speed up the deterioration of his chronic condition.
     
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    I think you should be leaving your comment on how good of a president Kamala Harris might be.... that is what we are looking at should Biden win
     
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    the ridiculousness...

     
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    Biden is a good man. He will make a fine President with God's help.
     
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    Vice President Harris would be far better than Trump.
     
  25. Cannuck

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    There's nothing humorous about it. It is a derogatory term. People resist change. Isn't that the tenent of Conservatism? Keeping things the same as they've been, same agenda, business as usual? I understand your resistance to change. I encounter it daily, even here, it's just done politely. People are willing to accept new ideas when it is their best self interest, but then that's why we have Chiefs - who speak on behalf of the people. If you think my ideas are radical, just imagine what someone who has lived in isolation all their lives must think. They get blown away by the outside world! If I speak in global terms, that is because I have travelled the world three times over. It was a life journey, just as we all are, around the sun - how many revolutions around the sun do we have in a lifetime - together.

    I agree, we ought to be able to break out of our own skin, out of our own mindset and free our thoughts. Does that mean that all people will? It is by choice. I chose the road less travelled, and that has made all the difference. You are free to choose the path you would like to walk and I am not dissing you for that.

    I can understand the fear that is implanted into people's heads about the Globalist Agenda, I have been fighting against it for years now. But that doesn't include what we as a species must evolve into if we are going to save the planet for future generations. The Communist threat is real IMO, China is a growing population exceeding their boundaries and ability to sustain the planet. Yet they are Capitalists on steroids and are consuming more of the resources of this planet in order to emulate the lifestyle that we in the West have enjoyed for decades. Where will it end? It ends when people live within their means and the divisions are put aside, people start taking responsibility for themselves, their actions and help one another along the way. Maybe that is a utopian dream, but how else are we going to maintain what we have, ie. small c - conservatism.

    Voluntary interaction, meaning no lockdown? Okay, get wild and go free...I do!

    Someone here mistaking you for a conservative? How dare he/she?:) I will be the first one to set him straight comrade Cannuck:)[/QUOTE]

    Straight sh*t, I was having a decent conversation with our brother @.X. , just as I do with others in this thread, but I don't vote in the USA, however I have travelled to every state, and even lived in some, including Republican Alaska.

    Let's all smoke a fattie and talk about how the universe will end... :cigar:

     

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