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Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
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2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
How many times are you going to edit this post? Can I move on or should I check back in an hour after you've thought of something really clever?

I'm going to eat lunch soon, one last thing:

Compare this:





with what Kate has said about Obama:

"In my book, Obama is a criminal."
https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-529#post-6392931

"I think Obama should have been impeached just like his predecessor."
https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-369#post-5879580

"Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you've fed him for a lifetime."

using the search function:
https://www.namepros.com/search/26708369/?q=obama&o=relevance&c[user][0]=19972
 
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"UPDATE: 4 defense attorneys at different large law firms have been approached to join Trump's legal defense team in recent weeks. All 4 turned him down."

More chaos, walls are closing in?

"In recent weeks, Donald Trump has approached four different defense attorneys to ask they join his legal defense team", CNN’s Katelyn Polantz reports.

From CNN, did she happen to say who these attorneys were?
 
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How many times are you going to edit this post? Can I move on or should I check back in an hour after you've thought of something really clever?

Again, with you not knowing how a forum works. Besides the search function, I just edited the post 2 minutes after. There are time stamps in case you didn't know. Didn't add or take anything away, just moved a link down.

Ego ins't your friend JB.

Confidence is. And everything I posted is true, that's why I have no issues with my posts.

Ahh sh*t.. JB is triggered again.

mr-x posts 3 posts in a row whining about editing again, and I'm the one triggered, haha.
 
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Ego ins't your friend JB.

I've make mistakes and own them. You're still denying Bill Clinto selttled with a women for attempted rape while stomping your feet and demangin everyone pay attention to Stormy D.

I'm trying to save you. You have a lot of misinformed posts. You tried to save yourself, walk back with the invading Ukraine/Obama stuff you posted yesterday. I think a lot of times you grab stuff off some right wing site, which usually posts nonsense, you don't take the time to verify/check the stuff you posts, so others have to do it for you.
 
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Hey Slick, you have a documented record of adding multiple paragraphs after I've answered.


Again, with you not knowing how a forum works. Besides the search function, I just edited the post 2 minutes after. There are time stamps in case you didn't know. Didn't add or take anything away, just moved a link down.
 
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Ahh shit.. JB is triggered again.
 
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Instead of you guys crying about it, you do realize you can start topics on all the good things he's done.

Nobody cries, please quit this. If Trump wrote you a check for $100k, on some domain name you sold him, you still would criticize anything he did!
I asked you to post something positive more than once, *about anything* ELSE political and all you post is more OCD negative back to the President. You have no opinion on anything? Sure would be entertaining to have something that isn’t Hillary, isn’t Obama. I posted Biden’s corruption you ignore it and post Stormy Again. Can you give a common sense answer to why the taxpayers shouldnt be angry at McConnell or Biden’s corruption?
Or do you simply approve of it as though its normal, which projects to me (correct me if I am wrong) you approve of the Swamp, Maggotville.
 
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Great news interest rates need to be normalized. Same with hyperinflated housing prices. Tariffs great, short term pain and long term gain. The DOW is stupidly overvalued. Best news to me as a correction is due. I may reinvest if it crashes like 08’.
 
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I get some food, come back and look at all this new stuff, the Shit Show continues

Karen McDougal coming up shortly on Anderson Cooper, you know the place, CNN

Karen McDougal tells CNN Trump tried to pay her after sex
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ed-to-pay-her-after-sex/ar-BBKA1nQ?li=BBnb7Kz

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McMaster out, John Bolton aka let's take military action in North Korea in

John Bolton to replace H.R. McMaster as White House national security adviser, Trump says

Another winner, Trump, hiring direct from Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...use-national-security-adviser-trump-says.html

"John Bolton, incoming White House national security adviser, appeared in a 2013 video for a Russian gun rights group.

The group was founded by a Putin ally close to the NRA,"

The Legal Case for Striking North Korea First
Does the necessity of self-defense leave ‘no choice of means, and no moment of deliberation’?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-legal-case-for-striking-north-korea-first-1519862374

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"Roger Stone is a trickster, Roger Stone is a shady character, I know Roger Stone..." - Randy Credico, who Trump aide Roger Stone claims was his "intermediary" with Julian Assange
TheBeat w/Ari Melber @TheBeatWithAri

6:45 PM - Mar 21, 2018
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EXCLUSIVE: ‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian Intelligence Officer
Robert Mueller’s team has taken over the investigation of Guccifer 2.0, who communicated with (and was defended by) longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclu...russian-intelligence-officer?via=twitter_page

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Report: Saudi prince said Kushner is 'in his pocket'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=TKiDLu3ExeQ

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EXCLUSIVE: Mueller probe witness who met Jared Kushner and was 'best friends' with Steve Bannon flees the country after being revealed as a pedophile

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lers-Russia-probe-FLEES-US.html#ixzz5AWj6futp
 
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Yep, will chalk it up to a marketing expense/PR:

"Apple employs more than 120,000 people worldwide, meaning the bonus is collectively worth around $300 million — a relatively small amount, given that Apple is expected to save $47 billion alone in taxes on repatriating cash back into the U.S."
 
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https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-100/pdf/STATUTE-100-Pg3445.pdf
The law

The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128303672

No internet back then and ease of access to such data. I mistakenly thought the Feds simply ignored the employer sanctions, but the bill passed without them. What a revelation to me, this and subsequent administrations as to why the huge problem now 31 years later.

Government political failure.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ion-why-didnt-it-work/?utm_term=.69af179a1ec2

Under the final law, all employers had to do to avoid sanctions was to make sure their workers had paperwork that "reasonably appears on its face to be genuine." If the documents were decent fakes, that wasn't the boss's problem. In fact, employers were actually penalized if they scrutinized a worker's nationality too aggressively.

Now all the crazy DACA, Wall, etc

If employers would/will have been sanctioned with huge fines for non compliance, even somebody in their neighborhood mowing grass, the current situation would never exist. No wall needed, but political will, then or now. Now so many democrats are illegals the demographic shift and sanctuary city crap, well it will never be solved.
 
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January. We have to go back to January because today's news is not so good. And exceptions don't make a great case. Most will follow the history of trickle down not working.

Today's news reflected bad news for facebook, tarifs and interest rates. I don't like tariffs but China is manipulator and IP thief.

Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and do what's right. No economy moves in a strait line.
 
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New budget is a complete disaster.
 
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Labor market is thriving far better under Trump than under Obama

While the unemployment rate declined to a 16-year low, the labor participation rate rose from 62.9 percent to 63.1 percent, exceeding 63 percent for the first time in 42 months. In other words, in September, a smaller percentage of people were unemployed while the workforce expanded because a larger percentage of people were working or actively looking for work. That is very positive economic news.

http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/...iving-far-better-under-trump-than-under-obama

Lagging indicators...
 
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New budget is a complete disaster.

Much worst than a disaster, this changes the mandate the people wanted. As Laura Ingraham said something today about the Republicans do not deserve to be reelected. I don’t disagree.

Even worse yet, Trump plans to sign it. Full of pork barrel projects buried in there, being planned for months and lied to the people.

The Swamp a toxic waste dump, most all of these swamp creatures both sides are corrupt scumbags. Toxic waste needs disposal and only can be buried and hidden away. It cannot be cleaned up, so this latest mess just adds to the cynicism I have. 2000 pages that only Rand Paul will try and read it. Maggotville will continue. Losing confidence and enthusiasm. The debt will continue to ruin the country. I just verified that US Govt employees salary increases and overhead has increased 10% above inflation since 2004, of course they have done such a marvelous job to deserve it, whereas all of the economy of small businesses are being killed off by Corporations. Average swamp dwellers make $84,000. a year. Under Obama the debt doubled and over 25 new agencies were created since 2004 not sure how many were started since that shithead was elected.

US Fed can’t control the borders or legal visa airport entries who overstay which are more prevalent.

I am just about ready to shut off everything, and retire again away and not pay any attention as I did during 8 years of that socialist idiot.

Zero IQ Maxine Waters and Senile Pelosi can take over and One term for Trump. Lol. Maxine should be invited to meet with Kim Jerkoff Un.
 
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I need to read up on that budget. I'm reading both Dems and Repubs put some tough Russian sanctions in? So that would be good.

I know you guys hate Stormy Daniels but her lawyer's tweet is making the rounds right now, could be nothing, could be just trying to get more viewers, remember 60 Minutes, Sunday night but people are saying she might have video:

"If “a picture is worth a thousand words,” how many words is this worth?????#60minutes #pleasedenyit #basta"

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/977015170231885825

I think Twitter might melt if a Trump/Stormy sex tape was released, that would be nuts. Someone posted - "Stormy Daniels apparently is a porn star who has also worked BEHIND the camera."
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Need to read more up on Bolton as well to find out what these means:

"John Bolton is the only person whose hand I have refused to shake. I met him (I was at Fox radio, he was just off Hannity's show) in 2012. When I met him, I didn't extend my hand. I did not want to get the blood of innocent American soldiers that drips off his fingers on me."
Kurt Eichenwald
@kurteichenwald

He also said DNC hack was a "false flag operation" so one of those conspiracy nutters.
 
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More interesting the Stormy.
 
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Just remembered I really need to have the “features vs benefits” talk with one of my clients... thanks for the reminder.

Bolton is the one who lied about WMD and subsequently got us into Iraq. He’s written articles advocating first strikes on NK and on Iran.

(Can you buy a fallout shelter on Amazon? Asking for a friend...)

If Stormy is planning on releasing a tape, its surely a conspiracy to try to blind the entire country. Some things are best left unseen!
 
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We don't hate Stormy D. We're tired of your hypocrisy, reveling in the story.

Your not changing anyone mind or engaging in debate, your national enquirer rushing to repeat any "report" or "allegation" that aligns with your personal animus for DT

I need to read up on that budget. I'm reading both Dems and Repubs put some tough Russian sanctions in? So that would be good.

I know you guys hate Stormy Daniels but her lawyer's tweet is making the rounds right now, could be nothing, could be just trying to get more viewers, remember 60 Minutes, Sunday night but people are saying she might have video:

"If “a picture is worth a thousand words,” how many words is this worth?????#60minutes #pleasedenyit #basta"

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/977015170231885825

I think Twitter might melt if a Trump/Stormy sex tape was released, that would be nuts. Someone posted - "Stormy Daniels apparently is a porn star who has also worked BEHIND the camera."
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DY8OG4cVMAAE977.jpg


Need to read more up on Bolton as well to find out what these means:

"John Bolton is the only person whose hand I have refused to shake. I met him (I was at Fox radio, he was just off Hannity's show) in 2012. When I met him, I didn't extend my hand. I did not want to get the blood of innocent American soldiers that drips off his fingers on me."
Kurt Eichenwald
@kurteichenwald

He also said DNC hack was a "false flag operation" so one of those conspiracy nutters.
 
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I don't like Bolton, he sounds too much like a neocon... the type that jumped into the Iraq war, claiming they would welcome us as liberators.

This is the opposite of what Trump talked about during the campaign. Will wait to hear strategy for dealing with the mid-east, NK.

Strange no policy coverage at CNN.
 
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I thought McMaster was basically OK, but apparently there was a difference of opinion over something...
 
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LIve President press conference regarding bill.
 
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