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    44.7%
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    22.3%
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Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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LOL... Western Australia Labor MP David Templeman Wraps Up WA Parliament Sitting For The Year In Christmas message in song
 
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My point was simple, SS is a Form of Socialism and yes just like Welfare and Medicare but for those who continue to scream No Socialism had better be prepared to deal with SS and all of its recipients if they want to get rid of All Socialism.

SS is the Big Dog in the room.

I believe that America works best with a mixed bad of Capitalism and Socialism
All of one is a Really Bad thing.

Agreed. And there is no one form of “socialism” - democratic socialism is very different from communist socialism.

But emphasizing the word “socialism” in branding their opponents was a brilliant GOP marketing move. It gets such a strong emotional reaction especially out of Those Of A Certain Generation that it provokes a knee jerk reaction to oppose it across the board, without any thought to the particulars or our government’s system checks and balances.

Besides the obvious like SS, public schools, state and local police and firefighters are a form of “socialism.” Everyone’s taxes pay for these services and they’re available to all even though you personally may not use them. But as a whole, they benefit everyone by making our communities safer and giving the next generation a foundation for a broad range of future careers.
 
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Doubling down with fake news from the past.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covington-catholic-black-paint/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/libs-cant-stop-owning-themselves-the-left-attempts-to-push-another-out-of-context-video-clip-of-covington-boys-from-someone-with-a-ton-of-really-racist-tweets/

I like how you guys prove me right all the time.

Get outraged if Antifa punches somebody or lights a garbage can on fire, mass shootings by whites, not a peep. Gilsan ok if it's Muslims getting murdered.

Then @mr-x usual lying:



This is you being dishonest again, shocking. You left out the other videos that came after that, more of your cherry picking, different angles/video that showed them harassing him. Or course you also left out them harassing females:


or

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But mr-x is ok with women getting harassed and assaulted based on his posts in this thread, defending that type of behavior or Gilsan ok with women getting assaulted based on how they're dressed.
I like how you guys prove me right all the time.

Get outraged if Antifa punches somebody or lights a garbage can on fire, mass shootings by whites, not a peep. Gilsan ok if it's Muslims getting murdered.

Then @mr-x usual lying:



This is you being dishonest again, shocking. You left out the other videos that came after that, more of your cherry picking, different angles/video that showed them harassing him. Or course you also left out them harassing females:


or

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But mr-x is ok with women getting harassed and assaulted based on his posts in this thread, defending that type of behavior or Gilsan ok with women getting assaulted based on how they're dressed.
 
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Agreed. And there is no one form of “socialism” - democratic socialism is very different from communist socialism.

But emphasizing the word “socialism” in branding their opponents was a brilliant GOP marketing move. It gets such a strong emotional reaction especially out of Those Of A Certain Generation that it provokes a knee jerk reaction to oppose it across the board, without any thought to the particulars or our government’s system checks and balances.

Besides the obvious like SS, public schools, state and local police and firefighters are a form of “socialism.” Everyone’s taxes pay for these services and they’re available to all even though you personally may not use them. But as a whole, they benefit everyone by making our communities safer and giving the next generation a foundation for a broad range of future careers.

Social Security isn't socialism, it's a retirement plan. Fire, police, schools are basic civic services.

Welfare, SNAP, WIX, medicare are socialist programs. Nothing wrong with a society providing for the needy but these programs tend to grow too large, are difficult to manage and are targets for corruption.

You made 3 post attacking the President and Christians over stricter SNAP requirements for working age adults with no dependents.
 
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@EddieZipperer
DEMS: Impeachment is solemn, sad, and serious

ALSO DEMS: Let's go on Colbert and joke about impeachment to try to raise support
 
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@lennco

LOL.. https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/12/13/china-gives-trade/

Some good news this morning.
Last night, news broke that President Trump had signed off on a new trade deal with China that will purportedly dramatically lower tariffs for both countries in exchange for China finally caving to some major demands.

I love how liberals just make up sentences about President Trump, then in the next breath call his supporters brain dead.
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China's economy grew at a slower pace than expected in the third quarter as it struggled with a US-led trade war and softer domestic demand. ... The slowdown comes despite government efforts to support the economy, including measures such as tax cuts.Oct 18, 2019
 
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@lennco

LOL.. https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/12/13/china-gives-trade/

Some good news this morning.
Last night, news broke that President Trump had signed off on a new trade deal with China that will purportedly dramatically lower tariffs for both countries in exchange for China finally caving to some major demands.

I love how liberals just make up sentences about President Trump, then in the next breath call his supporters brain dead.
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China's economy grew at a slower pace than expected in the third quarter as it struggled with a US-led trade war and softer domestic demand. ... The slowdown comes despite government efforts to support the economy, including measures such as tax cuts.Oct 18, 2019
Slow down there sparky.

It has not been signed yet. Its a roll back on some tariffs not all and those will take until next September and China still hasn't agreed to what they will buy from us.

Wall street isn't overjoyed about it.
 
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Agreed. And there is no one form of “socialism” - democratic socialism is very different from communist socialism.

But emphasizing the word “socialism” in branding their opponents was a brilliant GOP marketing move. It gets such a strong emotional reaction especially out of Those Of A Certain Generation that it provokes a knee jerk reaction to oppose it across the board, without any thought to the particulars or our government’s system checks and balances.

Besides the obvious like SS, public schools, state and local police and firefighters are a form of “socialism.” Everyone’s taxes pay for these services and they’re available to all even though you personally may not use them. But as a whole, they benefit everyone by making our communities safer and giving the next generation a foundation for a broad range of future careers.
Thank you.

I guess mr-x missed that I said a "Form" of socialism and SS is just that.
Today the GOP brands the word "Socialism" tomorrow it will be "Communism" just watch.

Trump will start branding his opponents Communist and his lemmings will run with it.
 
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Slow down there sparky.

It has not been signed yet. Its a roll back on some tariffs not all and those will take until next September and China still hasn't agreed to what they will buy from us.

Wall street isn't overjoyed about it.

The agreement is China will buy more farm goods and provide IP protection. Expect democrats to do their best to screw it up.
 
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Thank you.

I guess mr-x missed that I said a "Form" of socialism and SS is just that.
Today the GOP brands the word "Socialism" tomorrow it will be "Communism" just watch.

Trump will start branding his opponents Communist and his lemmings will run with it.

Lemmings, brain dead, koolaid, etc., Just string words together and hope for the best.
 
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The agreement is China will buy more farm goods and provide IP protection. Expect democrats to do their best to screw it up.
Sure, we will see how that goes.
 
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Lemmings, brain dead, koolaid, etc., Just string words together and hope for the best.
You mean like when you string words like Retards, Idiot and Liberals?
 
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You mean like when you string words like Retards, Idiot and Liberals?

Show your work.

Democrat rep admits that impeachment vote was delayed because it was too late for a TV audience. This is what they’re worried about.
 
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Trump will start branding his opponents Communist and his lemmings will run with it.

Unfortunately. He’s good at those labels. He’s already calling federal law enforcement “scum.”

BTW, seen this? He’s been floating a trial balloon about this for months.

Trump has begun 2024 campaign and is eligible to serve third term, senior Republican says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ke-huckabee-impeachment-inquiry-a9244761.html

...a-a-a-And that kids is how authoritarian regimes come into power. Not with tanks and troops, but with abuses of power and top officials refusing to obey laws.

I don’t see how he could be the guy who claims to have done more than any other president in history AND whine that criticism of his actions kept him from doing anything.

Snowflakes.

Huckabee is an idiot.

If he gets a do over for that, he needs to get in line behind Obama, who had to deal with obstruction from Congress and that birther bullsh*t.

We do have that little thing called the Constitution and a system of checks and balances that hopefully will hold up.
 
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Unfortunately. He’s good at those labels. He’s already calling federal law enforcement “scum.”
He is, and if were anyone else they would be looked at as being ridiculous but since its Trump his lemmings take whatever he says as golden words of the Almighty.

BTW, seen this? He’s been floating a trial balloon about this for months.

Trump has begun 2024 campaign and is eligible to serve third term, senior Republican says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ke-huckabee-impeachment-inquiry-a9244761.html

...a-a-a-And that kids is how authoritarian regimes come into power. Not with tanks and troops, but with abuses of power and top officials refusing to obey laws.

I don’t see how he could be the guy who claims to have done more than any other president in history AND whine that criticism of his actions kept him from doing anything.

Snowflakes.

Huckabee is an idiot.

If he gets a do over for that, he needs to get in line behind Obama, who had to deal with obstruction from Congress and that birther bullsh*t.

We do have that little thing called the Constitution and a system of checks and balances that hopefully will hold up.
That is terrifying to think of :xf.eek::xf.eek:

If he were to somehow win 2020 then that would be the new movement of his disciples with the help from China and Russia.
And mr-x and gilsan will be right there to champion him on.

Destroy from within.
 
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There are a group of actual communist supporting Bernie Sanders for president.

AOC introduced the "green new deal" a socialist plan for "seizing the means of production" and ending capitalism and democrats couldn't wait to endorse it.

But muh-tRUMP

Unfortunately. He’s good at those labels. He’s already calling federal law enforcement “scum.”

BTW, seen this? He’s been floating a trial balloon about this for months.

Trump has begun 2024 campaign and is eligible to serve third term, senior Republican says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ke-huckabee-impeachment-inquiry-a9244761.html

...a-a-a-And that kids is how authoritarian regimes come into power. Not with tanks and troops, but with abuses of power and top officials refusing to obey laws.

I don’t see how he could be the guy who claims to have done more than any other president in history AND whine that criticism of his actions kept him from doing anything.

Snowflakes.

Huckabee is an idiot.

If he gets a do over for that, he needs to get in line behind Obama, who had to deal with obstruction from Congress and that birther bullsh*t.

We do have that little thing called the Constitution and a system of checks and balances that hopefully will hold up.

Humorless nincompoops
 
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@lennco

LOL.. https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/12/13/china-gives-trade/

Some good news this morning.
Last night, news broke that President Trump had signed off on a new trade deal with China that will purportedly dramatically lower tariffs for both countries in exchange for China finally caving to some major demands.

I love how liberals just make up sentences about President Trump, then in the next breath call his supporters brain dead.
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China's economy grew at a slower pace than expected in the third quarter as it struggled with a US-led trade war and softer domestic demand. ... The slowdown comes despite government efforts to support the economy, including measures such as tax cuts.Oct 18, 2019
Looks like Trump got taken to the cleaners and took the US with him.
This will cost him for sure.

The Markets Have Spoken: Phase One Trade Deal Between the U.S. and China Is “No Victory”
https://fortune.com/2019/12/13/trump-china-trade-deal-phase-one-markets/

Chuck Schumer, one of Trump’s biggest Democratic cheerleaders on China, says president ‘sold out’ in phase one deal

  • Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer accuses President Trump of caving to China with the phase one trade deal.
  • After Schumer’s comment, Beijing officials announced that the U.S. and China have reached an agreement on text of the preliminary deal and will now move toward signing a deal as quickly as possible.
  • Schumer is one of Trump’s biggest Democratic supporters in his efforts to crack down on Chinese trade abuses.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, one of the Democrats most supportive of President Donald Trump’s crackdown on China, contended Friday that the president caved by striking a trade agreement.

“There are huge structural inequities with China’s trade relationships with the U.S. At first, President Trump seemed like the only president who would dare tackle this challenge; but now, he has sold out for a temporary and unreliable promise from China to purchase some soybeans,” Schumer said in a statement.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/13/chuck-schumer-says-trump-caved-with-phase-one-china-trade-deal.html

We will never see a Phase 2
Trump got hosed.
 
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Let me stop you right there... Schumer never supported Trump. I'm not even going to read the article and pick-out the paragraph about 1 third from the bottom that tells what really happened. Hot tip: Trade agreements are all promises.

If you want to post a bunch of bullshit, then call me a lemming I'm going to start ignoring you. It's been 24 hours.

Looks like Trump got taken to the cleaners and took the US with him.
This will cost him for sure.

The Markets Have Spoken: Phase One Trade Deal Between the U.S. and China Is “No Victory”
https://fortune.com/2019/12/13/trump-china-trade-deal-phase-one-markets/

Chuck Schumer, one of Trump’s biggest Democratic cheerleaders on China, says president ‘sold out’ in phase one deal

  • Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer accuses President Trump of caving to China with the phase one trade deal.
  • After Schumer’s comment, Beijing officials announced that the U.S. and China have reached an agreement on text of the preliminary deal and will now move toward signing a deal as quickly as possible.
  • Schumer is one of Trump’s biggest Democratic supporters in his efforts to crack down on Chinese trade abuses.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, one of the Democrats most supportive of President Donald Trump’s crackdown on China, contended Friday that the president caved by striking a trade agreement.

“There are huge structural inequities with China’s trade relationships with the U.S. At first, President Trump seemed like the only president who would dare tackle this challenge; but now, he has sold out for a temporary and unreliable promise from China to purchase some soybeans,” Schumer said in a statement.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/13/chuck-schumer-says-trump-caved-with-phase-one-china-trade-deal.html

We will never see a Phase 2
Trump got hosed.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1205542093831233536
 
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Trump having one of the best weeks of his administration. Democrats and corrupt media falling over themselves to spin it as bad news.
 
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Let me stop you right there... Schumer never supported Trump. I'm not even going to read the article and pick-out the paragraph about 1 third from the bottom that tells what really happened. Hot tip: Trade agreements are all promises.

If you want to post a bunch of bullsh*t, then call me a lemming I'm going to start ignoring you. It's been 24 hours.
The deal is for sh!t.

Just like with N.Korea, China does not have to give us anything in return for "Our" promises.

Let me know if you need help finding that Ignore button.
 
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The best thing about liberals is how sure they are of the future but can't remember the past. They love to laugh at people with opposing ideas but will soil themselves getting outraged over a joke.

Facts don't really matter as much as feelings. There are hundreds of sexes and genders. Women's rights don't matter, what important is we are all share the bathroom and showers. The world is on fire, global warming is killing us.

Just stop taking these people seriously.
 
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