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Yeah, and they'll find you making things up and lying you ass off every time you loose an argument. To be fair, sometimes we call you johnny lying.

When you were a child, did you think you'd grow and share gay porn on the Internet for fun?

We? Interesting, multiple personalities. I've seen documentaries on this on Netflix. Maybe you can parlay that into a group discount with Hooked on Phonics. Didn't have internet as a kid, just like they didn't have color TV when you were one. I missed this at the beginning with the maroon stuff but Acme Domains, that's from Bugs Bunny too. Must have been a hardcore Bugs Bunny fan. Still don't understand what the Blue Hen means tho.

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Late but watching the Barr hearing.

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UK's May faces no-confidence vote after Brexit plan crushed
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...r-theresa-mays-brexit-deal-with-eu/ar-BBSgjjh
 
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Barr :
Mueller probe not a witch hunt
Sessions was right to recuse himself
Can truly be independent, won't be bullied

Was late but from what I've heard, this one seems to be reasonable. Still watching more.
 
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CNN in meltdown mode over hamburgers being served at WH. I can imagine the gnashing of teeth if they had served Chick-fil-A.
 
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CNN in meltdown mode over hamburgers being served at WH. I can imagine the gnashing of teeth if they had served Chick-fil-A.

I'm curious for the Conservatives in this thread, does this commercial bother you in some way? It's by Gillette, apparently this has triggered many on the right. Some boycotting Gillette now, saying the brand is ruined forever. Why?

Right now:
Likes - 176,000
Dislikes - 513,000

Is it holding up the mirror to some people?

P&G’s Gillette ad asks men to shave their ‘toxic masculinity’ and a big backlash ensues
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/p...culinity-and-a-big-backlash-ensues-2019-01-15


 
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Dems going to have a lot to choose from:

Kirsten Gillibrand Launches 2020 Presidential Exploratory Committee

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...oratory-committee_us_5c37a3e1e4b0c469d76c52f0
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Alex Jones is back:

Roku adds Alex Jones' Infowars channel six months after others banned him
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/r...after-others-banned-him/ar-BBSiDLv?li=BBnbfcL

1.5 hours later......................

Roku Drops InfoWars and Alex Jones After Social Media Pressure
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/r...r-social-media-pressure/ar-BBSiKhg?li=BBnbfcL
 
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Vox: Trump Serving Clemson Players Fast Food Criticized As ‘Racist and Classist’
Liberal website Vox, criticized President Trump on Tuesday for serving fast food to the Clemson Tigers. Claiming that Trump’s belief that fast food would be the preferred meal of the athletes, was “racist and classist.”

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/20...-fast-food-criticized-as-racist-and-classist/

Why is everything "racist" for the pathetic leftist brain dead idiots?
 
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Vox: Trump Serving Clemson Players Fast Food Criticized As ‘Racist and Classist’
Liberal website Vox, criticized President Trump on Tuesday for serving fast food to the Clemson Tigers. Claiming that Trump’s belief that fast food would be the preferred meal of the athletes, was “racist and classist.”

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/20...-fast-food-criticized-as-racist-and-classist/

Why is everything "racist" for the pathetic leftist brain dead idiots?

This is a lie btw. It wasn't VOX, it was some random person on Twitter with 11 followers that said that. I guess Breitbart doesn't read either. I personally would have loved the meal.
 
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@TestCase How would you approach the school shootings / mass shootings issue? How would you prevent the next Las Vegas, Parkland, Sandy Hook or Sutherland Springs? How would you minimize the threat?
[Begin A VERY Rambling Stream of Conciousness Response]

I'll suggest that a large number (most?!?!?) of these mass killings were not realistically preventable at all because they involved scenarios that were either totally unimaginable or were so far down the "odds of it actually happening risk/reward chart" that no one would consider them as realistic probabilities.

And do you really think someone that is hell bent on hurting people isn't going to find some way to do it?

Now think of all the schools, churches, theaters, malls, grocery stores, restaurants, etc that exist in this world. If any of us SERIOUSLY believed that these types of mass shootings were REALISTIC possibilities, likely to occur at any time, on any day of the week, why the heck would we go to any of these places -- let alone leave our homes?

The answer is we don't really believe it will happen -- because it's such an infinitely small possibility! Your odds of dying as a result of alcohol is twice that of being killed with a gun yet millions of people drink it everyday.

Every time we walk out our doors, we have consciously or subconsciously made the personal calculation that we are in no REAL danger of actually being shot as we go through the humdrum routine of our everyday lives.

Yet despite knowing this type of thing is not realistically probable, people are still hell bent on restricting or getting rid of guns owned by law abiding citizens - people that MASSIVELY outnumber those criminals and crazies and represent no danger to anyone except a possible bad guy/gal.

Let me ask YOU this. If you were to find yourself caught in the middle of a mass shooting, would you:
A) Want the guy/gal huddling under the desk with you to be a concealed carry permit holder with a weapon in hand?
OR
B) Would you prefer that they just be another average Joe/Jill with nothing in their hand?

I certainly know which one I'd prefer. Hell, if I ever find my self in that situation I could care less if they had a CHL/CCW permit or not. They just need to have the gun!

A few years ago I had a relative (that also used to be my roommate a number of years prior) commit suicide with a handgun that was bought for that purpose a few days before. I knew that they had some mental health issues yet others never saw that side. But none of us that did see it would have ever thought it would result in suicide. And that's the problem mental health issues, it's very hard to tell who will go to those very dark places.

I grew up shooting but got away from it for a number of years. Eventually I got back in to it. I've never been interested in hunting but do find target shooting to be very relaxing - though sometimes extremely frustrating.

I've lead a good life. I've had good/great things happen and I've had some not so good things happen. I've had my cars broken in to more times than I can remember. I've been home when someone broke it my apartment in the middle of the afternoon. Without thinking and with an adrenaline rush pumping through my brain, I chased him back in to the the hallway and down the stairwell. He was faster than me and was long gone by the time I hit the ground level and opened the door...

I've worked in and spent time in places that definitely had me concerned for my safety. I've also had loaded handguns pointed at me three times, the last two times 6 inches from my head by people that wanted my money. There have also been a number of other situations/life experiences (not to be addressed) that have had me deeply concerned for my overall well being and lifespan.

Despite the bad, I've never felt the need to have a gun on my person outside of my home -- but I understand those that do feel that need.

I have a very deep respect for guns and the damage they can do. But I also know for a fact that they aren't going to walk up to me on their own. It's the crazy or the criminal that holds a gun to my head that scares me -- and they are still able to threaten my wellbeing with or without said gun. The instrument/tool isn't the issue, it's the holder's intent.

Again, if we were really serious about truly saving lives, why haven't we completely outlawed alcohol and tobacco? They aren't absolute life necessities.

Why aren't people required to buy only small vehicles that have a complete rollcage and a limited speed limit. Only a few select people REALLY need more than that. Right?!?!? And those that do need something larger or faster should have to prove that they have a an extremely compelling reason for such an exemption. This would save an enormous number of lives, reduce medical and insurance costs and save us a ton of natural resources. PLUS, none of those things are protected under the constitution so it should be easy to pass these laws.

But none of the above will happen because people aren't really that serious about wanting to minimize deaths if it impacts the way they* want to live/lead their lives. (Well, that and all the economic and political reasons...)

Let me end this by saying that everyday I walk out my door, my only real safety concern is every other driver on the road.

[/End A VERY Rambling Stream of Conciousness Response]
 
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The controversy around Trump’s fast-food football feast, explained
People are calling Trump’s McDonald’s and Wendy’s meal for the Clemson Tigers racist and classist.
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/1/15/18183617/trump-clemson-mcdonalds-burger-king-wendys-dominos

Vox quoted a guy with like 11 followers. Maroons.

This is a lie btw. It wasn't VOX, it was some random person on Twitter with 11 followers that said that. I guess Breitbart doesn't read either. I personally would have loved the meal.
 
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Dems going to have a lot to choose from:

Kirsten Gillibrand Launches 2020 Presidential Exploratory Committee

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...oratory-committee_us_5c37a3e1e4b0c469d76c52f0

Crazy man hating woman who wants to eliminate due process, abolish ICE, finance abortions in other countries. About average sack of fertilizer that will get people to vote for President Trump.

... more stories about a guy who has wrong thoughts being punished
 
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So far the DNC has produced about a dozen candidates for President. They seem to have a few issues in common:

No borders.
Sanctuary for criminal illegal aliens.
Abolishing ICE ( immigration & customs enforcement )
Support for antifa - ( anarchy and communism )
Oppose the #1A and #2A of the constitution
Limits on due process
Support socialism
Foreign policy ??

What am I missing?
 
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So far the DNC has produced about a dozen candidates for President. They seem to have a few issues in common:

No borders.
Sanctuary for criminal illegal aliens.
Abolishing ICE ( immigration & customs enforcement )
Support for antifa - ( anarchy and communism )
Oppose the #1A and #2A of the constitution
Limits on due process
Support socialism
Foreign policy ??

What am I missing?

You know this isn't true. Biden, Beto. Tell me where they are with each one of those. Link to sources of them supporting Antifa, abolishing ICE etc.
 
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It's typical SJW virtue signaling BS. They would have been better of with a campaign showing good role models than stereotyping men. A lot of boys will be boys, is good healthy fun.

Most people try to teach their children right from wrong, respect and honesty **Also, masculinity isn't toxic. Bad behavior is bad regardless of your sex.

Ricky Gervais @rickygervais
I used to love beating up kids at barbecues. Now I realise that is wrong. Also, my balls have never been smoother. Thanks, Gillette.


I'm curious for the Conservatives in this thread, does this commercial bother you in some way? It's by Gillette, apparently this has triggered many on the right. Some boycotting Gillette now, saying the brand is ruined forever. Why?

Right now:
Likes - 176,000
Dislikes - 513,000

Is it holding up the mirror to some people?

P&G’s Gillette ad asks men to shave their ‘toxic masculinity’ and a big backlash ensues
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/p...culinity-and-a-big-backlash-ensues-2019-01-15


 
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You know this isn't true. Biden, Beto. Tell me where they are with each one of those. Link to sources of them supporting Antifa, abolishing ICE etc.

Biden won't run. Beto dissed the entire constitution yesterday, refereed to the USA an Empire. The only land we own outside of the USA are embassies and cemeteries.

We lease military bases and naval ports from the host countries. If they want the US out, we leave, i.e. the Philippines.
 
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You know this isn't true. Biden, Beto. Tell me where they are with each one of those. Link to sources of them supporting Antifa, abolishing ICE etc.

You don't remember DNC comparing antifa to WWII soldiers? I don't have time.. I know I can get quotes from almost all of them. Warren was the only one I remember having the good sense not to jump on the antifa bandwagon.
 
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Biden won't run. Beto dissed the entire constitution yesterday, refereed to the USA an Empire. The only land we own outside of the USA are embassies and cemeteries.

We lease military bases and naval ports from the host countries. If they want the US out, we leave, i.e. the Philippines.

Haven't heard anything about Biden not running.

Beto saying the U.S. is an empire not a big deal, we do have a huge military presence around the world. Around 600 bases overseas is a lot.

"The Pentagon stated in 2013 that there are "around" 5,000 bases total, with "around" 600 of them overseas"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

And that didn't tackle my question. Those views you mentioned are more far left views, they're going to run a basic, run of the mill, moderate.
 
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You need to look up the definition of the word Empire. We're a Democratic Republic.

Haven't heard anything about Biden not running.

Beto saying the U.S. is an empire not a big deal, we do have a huge military presence around the world.

"The Pentagon stated in 2013 that there are "around" 5,000 bases total, with "around" 600 of them overseas"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

And that didn't tackle my question. Those views you mentioned are more far left views, they're going to run a basic, run of the mill, moderate.

Of course; they'll lie.
 
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You need to look up the definition of the word Empire. We're a Democratic Republic.

I know what it means, I said it wasn't a big deal. It's not something where somebody was thinking of supporting him, then he said that, and they're going to change their mind. Not sure what of course they'll lie means. Moderates don't support a lot of what you posted. I said myself I don't support abolishing ICE and if Antifa or anybody else destroys property, attacks people, arrest them.
 
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I know what it means, I said it wasn't a big deal. It's not something where somebody was thinking of supporting him, then he said that, and they're going to change their mind. Not sure what of course they'll lie means. Moderates don't support a lot of what you posted. I said myself I don't support abolishing ICE and if Antifa or anybody else destroys property, attacks people, arrest them.

My predictions:
Cory Booker will come out of the closet.
All DNC candidates support sanctuary cities / state.
All will support increased immigration and "reform" of ICE.
All will support limits on the #2A && possibly the #1A.
Freebeacon.com will publish a mix-tape of journalist calling Robert O'Rourke a rock-star.
 
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Let me ask YOU this. If you were to find yourself caught in the middle of a mass shooting, would you:
A) Want the guy/gal huddling under the desk with you to be a concealed carry permit holder with a weapon in hand?
OR
B) Would you prefer that they just be another average Joe/Jill with nothing in their hand?
I think the argument of self-defense, CCW is overrated in those situations.

If you are in the middle of a shootout: probably you won't have time to react if you happen to be where the action is. By the time you reach for your pocket, you already got a bullet in your head.
Otherwise a semi-automatic handgun (with small magazine) vs an automatic weapon (assault rife, machine gun) is still a very unbalanced fight. You have to be very accurate, whereas the killer doesn't even have to aim, just shoot. In fact you could easily miss the target and shoot an innocent among the crowd and in the confusion... it's not so easy to hit a rapidly moving target even at close range.
Many Americans own guns but not many have that kind of practice. Owning a gun is one thing, being a sharp shooter is another.

It could be a sniper, so you don't see where the shots come from. See in Vegas how long it took to stop the killer.

Nice in theory. In practice ?

I've worked in and spent time in places that definitely had me concerned for my safety. I've also had loaded handguns pointed at me three times, the last two times 6 inches from my head by people that wanted my money. There have also been a number of other situations/life experiences (not to be addressed) that have had me deeply concerned for my overall well being and lifespan.
Sounds like a very dangerous country you live in. Probably a sh*hole Third World country :)
 
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I think the argument of self-defense, CCW is overrated in those situations.

If you are in the middle of a shootout: probably you won't have time to react if you happen to be where the action is. By the time you reach for your pocket, you already got a bullet in your head.
Otherwise a semi-automatic handgun (with small magazine) vs an automatic weapon (assault rife, machine gun) is still a very unbalanced fight. You have to be very accurate, whereas the killer doesn't even have to aim, just shoot. In fact you could easily miss the target and shoot an innocent among the crowd and in the confusion... it's not so easy to hit a rapidly moving target even at close range.
Many Americans own guns but not many have that kind of practice. Owning a gun is one thing, being a sharp shooter is another.

It could be a sniper, so you don't see where the shots come from. See in Vegas how long it took to stop the killer.

Nice in theory. In practice ?...

Every situation and resulting actions in life will always be dependent on the specific factors involved in that particular situation.

My question was simply, if you were huddling with cover in the middle of a mass shooting (ANY mass shooting), would you prefer to be with someone with a gun in hand or would you prefer to be with someone that is empty handed?

Now a question to you. Aside from a wingnut with a gun(s) targeting innocent people, what else do most mass shootings have in common?

Hint: How many of these mass shootings have taken place where normal, everyday people are actually allowed to carry guns?

Using a gun successfully in self defense isn't necessarily about being able put a bullet in the bad guy, it can also be a deterrent when the bad guy knows/realizes that they too can become a target.

...Sounds like a very dangerous country you live in. Probably a sh*hole Third World country :)
Yeaaaaaah, NO! But a lot of people would still think otherwise... LOL
 
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