The LLL.com sales report & discussion thread

[italiandragon]

We need this one too guys

This guide will also help LLLL.com holders to understand more the value of their 4 letters .com based on how expensive the similar 3 letters .com are.

From:

http://3character.com/priceguide.html

Pricing Guide for 3-Letter (Composed Of Letters Only) Domains:

Current Observed Minimum Wholesale Price (regardless of letter combo) as of February 1, 2008:

3-Letter .com - $6700 (+ $300 since January 1, 2008 report)

But I consider their guide a bit old since they are not taking in consideration the emergenging countries that appreciate other letters and as we have run a poll here several times lately, the majority of people consider the letters U
and W to be Premium letters.

Let`s have a look at some recent LLL.com sales as reported from NameBio.com :


nak.com $27,135 2007-12-22 SEDO.com
nyz.com $10,605 2007-12-19 tdnam
utw.com $10,100 2007-12-10 SEDO.com
via.com $157,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
cgf.com $14,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
vkx.com $6,200 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
mje.com $10,734 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
okf.com $8,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
our.com $60,000 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
kxr.com $7,101 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
lhg.com $13,613 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
wae.com $10,099 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
hya.com $7,499 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
yrd.com $9,100 2007-12-05 SEDO.com
vfk.com $15,750 2007-11-29 AfterNic.com
qee.com $10,882 2007-11-27 SEDO.com

 

[Kate]

vie means life in French...

 

[equity78]

BQQ.com (not mine)sold on Sedo $10,507

 

[Ms Domainer]

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According to Elliot's Blog, 47 LLL .com domains are going up for "no reserve" sale at Namejet.

http://www.elliotsblog.com/namejet-auctioning-47-three-letter-com-9124

Private seller uses privacy.

What do you think?

That "no reserve" business is hinky.

I'm with tonecas on avoiding private sellers using Namejet.

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[silentg]

It's about time someone sues Namejet and changes their policy. Getting tired of cancelled auctions because seller refusing to push the domain.

 

[silentg]

Sedo:

bqq.com 10,507 USD

 

[betthelot]

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According to Elliot's Blog, 47 LLL .com domains are going up for "no reserve" sale at Namejet.



Private seller uses privacy.

What do you think?

That "no reserve" business is hinky.

I'm with tonecas on avoiding private sellers using Namejet.

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Looks like a reserve is set at around 5000usd bidded on two 4700 and namjet show higher bid as reserve not met

 

[DOTT]

I have a chance to get this domain cheap, didn't take it at that time

 

[tonecas]

here is the auction cancelled for NAQ.COM.

however it has a new owner, and it is not the winning bidder. The domain was on-hold and the odds that the original owner come to renew it (and netsol accepted that) are so thin that the only explanation is a major fu**up.

I did not refresh my historical whois for this domain so can someone check if between 22/02 an 08/03 the domain show up with a owner different than the current (a company named StatPro for what it seems)?

regards,
tonecas

yet again, another WTF from NameJet and team.

RGH.COM was expired after the owner had bankrupt 10 years back. the managing company was a trustee in charge of selling the assets. however, the managing contact let the domain expire or so it seems.

the domain went into auction and it was won by the same person of NAQ.COM, this time for $10,000.

however, the domain is now showing with WHOIS privacy but, as it is usual with NetSol dumb service, the privacy leeks the name of the owner. low and behold, it is Andrew Rosener who came out second in the auction...

for complete fairness, the domain is on-hold which means something fishy is going on and still being processed.

regards,
tonecas

 

[tonecas]

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According to Elliot's Blog, 47 LLL .com domains are going up for "no reserve" sale at Namejet.



Private seller uses privacy.

What do you think?

That "no reserve" business is hinky.

I'm with tonecas on avoiding private sellers using Namejet.

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for all that i know they still belong to Abstract Holdings International LTD, the same entity that seems to have bought about 100 LLL.com from Marchex and listed them in 4.CN.

it is a common practice for domains from private sellers to use Enom privacy before auction to help hide their tracks and deter people from summing up 2 plus 2.

regards,
tonecas

 

[tonecas]

NameJet:

another WTF from NetSol and team.
now it is expired, then it isn't, then it is...

mwk.com $4,856 (Marta Mulder/Marco Ferro/MultiServices/MyName/DomainEmpire/DomainShowcase/Erroneous/...)

regards,
tonecas

 

[Ms Domainer]

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That erroneous seems to show up in just about every .com auction (both snap and namejet) and has for years.

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[betthelot]

Just sold no reserve namejet auction - first batch of about 40.
JZD com $5,000
PZV com $3,999
qvj com $3,967
rgz com $4,511

 

[TheWatcher]

oni.com list for auction in less than 5 hours... surreal...

regards,
tonecas

It was sold?

---------- Post added at 04:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:38 PM ----------

Just sold no reserve namejet auction - first batch of about 40.
JZD com $5,000
PZV com $3,999
qvj com $3,967
rgz com $4,511

We will see them here for sale soon.

 

[tonecas]

and low and behold: instead of entering a new auction, oni.com just came back to a new owner, not passing through the winning bidder ( AFAIK because nowadays you can easily get away with fake whois ).

Registrant:
New Ventures Services, Corp
ATTN ONI.COM
care of Network Solutions
PO Box 459
Drums, PA. US 18222


Domain Name: ONI.COM


Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
New Ventures Services, Corp [email protected]
ATTN ONI.COM
care of Network Solutions
PO Box 459
Drums, PA 18222
US
570-708-8780

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some info about these guys:

http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/sho...w-Venture-Services-Corp-amp-Network-Solutions


regards,
tonecas

man, so many scams going on. and more and more in your face. there are no consequences whatsoever.

KJP.com was expired and on-hold after outdated WHOIS information. The true owner didn't seem to care much for the domain but the fact is the domain was on-hold and did not belong to NetSol. however, they are now with their hands on it, and not even faking the renewal like they have done recently, and this time using another shell company as above:

Registrant:
New Ventures Services, Corp
Domain Registrar
12808 Gran Bay Parkway West
Jacksonville, FL 32258
US

Domain Name: KJP.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
New Ventures Services, Corp [email protected]
Domain Registrar
12808 Gran Bay Parkway West
Jacksonville, FL 32258
US
9027492701


Record expires on 18-Apr-2013.
Record created on 02-Jun-2004.
Database last updated on 19-Jun-2012 14:58:58 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

SK.S2.NS1.NS92.KOLMIC.COM
SK.S2.NS2.NS92.KOLMIC.COM


now, the even more interesting part:

[email protected]

it's the email that Register puts on their domains when they are expired and on their renew grace period.

it seems Web.com is already pushing the envelope after buying Register and NetworkSolutions.

how fishy can you get?

regards,
tonecas

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It was sold?

yes, to the winner or the first auction after he paid. but only after messing around and trying to funnel it to their shell company. please read previous posts.

regards,
tonecas

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http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2009/d2009-0343.html

so funny! as if they were a normal domainer making a fair competition to all of us by "deploys an automated system to snap up expired domain names, indifferent to the trademark rights of others"!

that is why there are shell companies and off-shores you know?...

regards,
tonecas

 

[TheWatcher]

Crazy and greedy people can do that, no sweat.



Thanks for the confirmation. I'm out of loop.

 

[tonecas]

NameJet

LLL.com private sale, no reserve:

rpz.com $4601 (BuyDomains. a rare appearance in the LLL.com segment)
uxz.com $4300
vkz.com $4100 (Marta Mulder/Marco Ferro/MultiServices/MyName/DomainEmpire/DomainShowcase/Erroneous/...)
uzw.com $4200

more to come.

regards,
tonecas

 

[TheAlien]

NameJet

LLL.com private sale, no reserve:

rpz.com $4601 (BuyDomains. a rare appearance in the LLL.com segment)
uxz.com $4300
vkz.com $4100 (Marta Mulder/Marco Ferro/MultiServices/MyName/DomainEmpire/DomainShowcase/Erroneous/...)
uzw.com $4200

more to come.

regards,
tonecas

Nice catch!

 

[betthelot]

Next Batch today namejet

xeh.com
$4,455
xgv.com
$3,600
xdv.com
$4,015
xki.com
$4,011

 

[TheAlien]

Today's result:

xsa.com $4,300 6/21/2012
xmv.com $3,988 6/21/2012
xkm.com $4,001 6/21/2012
xvs.com $4,100 6/21/2012
xrh.com $3,999 6/21/2012

 

[Stian]

xvs.com $4,100 6/21/2012

This one went cheap. Probably gets some typo pharma traffic.

 

[betthelot]

xsa.com
$4,300
xmv.com
$3,988
xkm.com
$4,001
xvs.com
$4,100
xrh.com
$3,999
xeh.com
$4,455

Today namejet no reserve

 

[silentg]

why are they trying to dump it all at once? I am pretty sure if they had ran 1 LLL.com per day, it would've received more bids.

 

[betthelot]

why are they trying to dump it all at once? I am pretty sure if they had ran 1 LLL.com per day, it would've received more bids.

big business thinking - sell a 100, one a day, takes 100 days to get your money - do 5 a day over 20 days get your money 80 days earlier and invest in your company. The return on investment in those 80 days is greater than the return of increased sales value, if you dripped them out, especially if you already have an opportunity to invest now which is time critical - it all depends on what you are doing with the money afterwards and big business normal set it to work straight away. Investor just cashing out yes 1 a day please.

 

[Embrand]

wgx.com $3,805 GoDaddy Auctions (public auction, not expiring)

 

[TheAlien]

yzu.com $4,433 6/22/2012
yze.com $3,700 6/22/2012
yza.com $4,150 6/22/2012
zbv.com $3,010 6/22/2012
xwi.com $4,400 6/22/2012