The LLL.com sales report & discussion thread

[italiandragon]

We need this one too guys

This guide will also help LLLL.com holders to understand more the value of their 4 letters .com based on how expensive the similar 3 letters .com are.

From:

http://3character.com/priceguide.html

Pricing Guide for 3-Letter (Composed Of Letters Only) Domains:

Current Observed Minimum Wholesale Price (regardless of letter combo) as of February 1, 2008:

3-Letter .com - $6700 (+ $300 since January 1, 2008 report)

But I consider their guide a bit old since they are not taking in consideration the emergenging countries that appreciate other letters and as we have run a poll here several times lately, the majority of people consider the letters U
and W to be Premium letters.

Let`s have a look at some recent LLL.com sales as reported from NameBio.com :


nak.com $27,135 2007-12-22 SEDO.com
nyz.com $10,605 2007-12-19 tdnam
utw.com $10,100 2007-12-10 SEDO.com
via.com $157,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
cgf.com $14,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
vkx.com $6,200 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
mje.com $10,734 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
okf.com $8,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
our.com $60,000 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
kxr.com $7,101 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
lhg.com $13,613 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
wae.com $10,099 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
hya.com $7,499 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
yrd.com $9,100 2007-12-05 SEDO.com
vfk.com $15,750 2007-11-29 AfterNic.com
qee.com $10,882 2007-11-27 SEDO.com

 

[dag]

exactly. those who say otherwise really look stupid imo

they can point stats, roll out flowcharts rofl.

on top of a few other thousand other words:


World Wide Web Ring any bells? :sold:

to have a W in any configuration is so damned handy, if only for world and web.

obviously the countless other words in the dictionary.

also any letter as the first letter is cool as for geo, it can relate to any city or country on the planet, which all start with every letter. sure some start with more chance of an a than an x for example, but you get what im trying to say

When I was looking around the 'Net last night for more info, I found that the general point of fact seems to be this:

**The five most common letters beginning words are "t," "o," "a," "w," and "s."**

In fact, I found this quote: "More than 50% of English words start with "T, A, O, S, or W."

Note the W. However, the chart I pointed at above seems to have a different result -- I'm not sure why. But my main point with the chart was really to show that proper names can have a substantial impact on the viability of acronyms -- not only giving J a huge boost in the English language, (Spanish too, I would think), but also a big reason why Q, X, and Z are potentially very good for China.

 

[floatingworld]

Do you see the LLLL.com frenzy boosting LLL.com prices?

its the other way round! over the last 2 years there has been a growing realisation among domainers that a limited number of characters provides the simplest method for calculating domain value and in a liquid market LLL value has moved relentlessly upwards and no doubt has has been a background factor in the explosion of LLLL values since the buyout. One just has to view the number of countdown threads in domain name discussion to see what has happened. Everybody can now play, but LLL sits like a colossus on top of the whole pile.

 

[brackis]

Anyone want to evaltuate what a CVC is worth if it has all premium letters? (Reseller pricing, not to an enduser)

 

[nicholas]

World Wide Web Ring any bells?

Anybody with any doubts about 'W' need really only be shown that quote to settle any doubts.

'W' almost anywhere in a name, especially a LLL .com is actually among the most easily generic, when you consider how 'World,' 'Worldwide,' 'Web,' and 'Website' in a domain to fit an almost unlimited variety of possibilities.

Also, 'X' can be a lot more valuable than you'd expect. IMHO it can be used generically in a domain so easily, such as using it for Xtreme, Xpress, Xchange, (cross -- as i n 'X' wheel ), popular terms (like 'X sports,' 'X factor,' 'citizen x,' etc.) and a whole bunch of others.

They can be as, or in some cases even more, useful than an 'i' in the end of a domain (usually as 'i' used for 'inc' or 'incorporated'). You can put it anywhere in a LLLL or LLL and find it extremely useful. I for one really like and continue to invest in names with 'x' on them, and find them currently undervalued and a good opportunity.

 

[dag]

Also, 'X' can be a lot more valuable than you'd expect. IMHO it can be used generically in a domain so easily, such as using it for Xtreme, Xpress, Xchange, (cross -- as i n 'X' wheel ), popular terms (like 'X sports,' 'X factor,' 'citizen x,' etc.) and a whole bunch of others.

I agree...I love an X at the beginning -- and don't forget the whole "adult" factor.

 

[italiandragon]

@ SEDO ended today:


NWO.com $32,000


http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25160&tracked=&partnerid=


Any doubt about W being Premium now?

Just above 1 day left for few other gems:

DFL.com

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_detail.php?language=us&auction_id=25229&tracked=&partnerid=


ILU.com

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_detail.php?language=us&auction_id=25369&tracked=&partnerid=


FNU.com

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_detail.php?language=us&auction_id=25483&tracked=&partnerid=


This will help to see how good the letter U performs at the end of the acronyms.

Then there is also Another one ending sooner (20 hours from now) :

PQP.com

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_detail.php?language=us&auction_id=25227&tracked=&partnerid=

 

[italiandragon]

niq.com $8,750 2008-02-06 namepros
fbs.com $25,000 2008-02-06 domainstate
eoq.com $11,018 2008-02-05 SEDO.com
cny.com $18,364 2008-02-04 SEDO.com
uaa.com $68,015 2008-02-01 SEDO.com
pid.com $25,000 2008-01-30 SEDO.com
rut.com $20,500 2008-01-29 SEDO.com
puu.com $9,100 2008-01-24 SEDO.com
zmy.com $6,101 2008-01-24 SEDO.com
uoo.com $12,845 2008-01-24 SEDO.com
ojj.com $8,600 2008-01-24 SEDO.com
uul.com $9,100 2008-01-24 SEDO.com
lyq.com $7,482 2008-01-21 SEDO.com
sxp.com $8,100 2008-01-16 SEDO.com
qzq.com $19,110 2008-01-14 SEDO.com
eth.com $19,800 2008-01-09 moniker.com


Prices surely are up

 

[italiandragon]

Auction ended:

DFL.com $24,500

http://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25229&tracked=&partnerid=

Another triple premium over $20K

 

[italiandragon]

Another ended auction at Sedo:


ILU.com $20,000

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25369&tracked=&partnerid=

Another $20K for something who many declare NOT all premiums.... :bah:

 

[snoop]

The wholesale pricing is quickly shooting up. I think your going to be hardpressed
to find an LLL.com under 7.5 right now

There is quite a few for sale under than level, I am selling one at the moment.

 

[sashas]

Another completed auction at Sedo:


ILU.com $20,000

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25369&tracked=&partnerid=

Another $20K for something who many declare NOT all premiums.... :bah:

ILU is a popular acronym for "I Love You" too. IMO, went cheap.

I just bought an all premium LLL.com...seeing the last few sales, I sure got a good deal.

 

[-REECE-]

I was offered an all premium for 16,5 yesterday... Sedo seems a bit all over the place lately with LLL.com sales.

 

[italiandragon]

I was offered an all premium for 16,5 yesterday... Sedo seems a bit all over the place lately with LLL.com sales.

Interesting: but do we calculate the rare bargain as minimun or minimun should be the real option for the average domainer to get a few of them at such price?

 

[-REECE-]

It's not rare whatsoever, trust me I actually passed on it... It wasn't the strongest premium letters, but they were premium. Quality and enduser potential has alot to do with what premium LLL.coms go for.

Interesting: but do we calculate the rare bargain as minimun or minimun should be the real option for the average domainer to get a few of them at such price?

 

[italiandragon]

The other 2 ended at Sedo:


FNU.com $15,502

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25483&tracked=&partnerid=


PQP.com $8,800

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25227&tracked=&partnerid=

 

[italiandragon]

Auction ended:

DFL.com $24,500

http://sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25229&tracked=&partnerid=

Another triple premium over $20K

DFL.com completed now

ALSO COMPLETED:

CNY.com 13,500 Eur = $19,809

 

[italiandragon]

Another ended auction at Sedo:


ILU.com $20,000

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25369&tracked=&partnerid=

Another $20K for something who many declare NOT all premiums.... :bah:

ILU.com now is paid $20,000

 

[Pound]

rvj.com …………. $8,000

A good buy from TRAFFIC.

 

[fonzie_007]

Personally, I am no longer seeing LLL.com as a good bet. There is greater risk putting large sums of money into a domain that could quite easily be taken from you in a UDRP. 3L domains used to be sacred (e.g. assuming the registrant wasn't stupid, no one would be able to take the domain from him/her). However, the sad fact is that WIPO and NAF have increasingly been willing to allow 3L domains to be taken away from the registrant.

This being said, anytime you have an asking price >$1,300 for a domain that could be subject to a UDRP, you are running a real risk of losing your domain. Put simply, why pay $8k+ for a LLL.com or ~$1k for a LLL.net right now when:

(1) the revenue/traffic on them generally isn't great;
(2) any end user could spend $1,300 and some attorneys fees and possibly take the domain from you in an UDRP; and
(3) the amount of domainers able/willing to purchase the domain back from you is a relatively small amount of people.

Your better bets in the LLL marketspace are .orgs, .us, .biz, .info, and .mobis. Because these LLL domains are lower priced, even if you are faced with a person threatening a UDRP, it will be cheaper for the person to buy the domain from you than go to UDRP (and you, as the seller, will still be able to make a return selling the domain). In other words, if you spend $150 on a LLL domain and someone threatens a UDRP, you can offer to sell the domain for anything under ~$1,500 and the person threatening the action probably will just buy the domain from you.

 

[italiandragon]

From DNJournal , reports of the past 2 weeks:


ZPS.com $30,500 AfternicDLS
AUX.com $30,000 SnapNames
RAH.com $15,000 SnapNames
VJY.com $7,100 Moniker

The other 2 ended at Sedo:


FNU.com $15,502

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25483&tracked=&partnerid=


PQP.com $8,800

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_history.php?language=us&auction_id=25227&tracked=&partnerid=

Also both above auctions of FNU and PQP have been paid now.


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[bricio]

KLQ.com just ended at sedo -> 5,700 EUR ($8,654)

 

[bricio]

PLE.com at sedo today -> 12,500 EUR ($18,986.25)

 

[vlad74]

Anyone knows at what price was sold vtb.com (it was in 2005 or 2006)?

It was bough by one of the largest russian banks VTB Bank. The bank was renamed from Vneshtorgbank (bankf for foreign trade) to VTB Bank in 2006.

Namebio does not contain this info. Would be interesting to know the sales price. Anyone knows?

 

[bricio]

EDO.com at sedo today -> $25,277 :gn:

Anyone knows at what price was sold vtb.com (it was in 2005 or 2006)?

i didnt find its sale Vladimir

 

[bricio]

today there were other two LLL dot com at sedo

QUD,com -> $18,500 (an end-user sale?)
QDZ,com -> $9,100