alert The fund can't be withdrawal from Epik.com via Masterbucks wallet

[enamebroker]

It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[Future Sensors]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/th...terbucks-wallet.1284050/page-364#post-8953525

 

[Mister Funsky]

Be careful not to drink the koolaid made from Washington blueberries. It may or may not have played a part in taking down Epiks last CEO.

I wonder if the new CEO lives near the old CEO?

Monster was always inviting people to pick his blueberries...good for the body and mind he would say. Sure hope he got a good harvest this year.

 

[bmugford]

Epik.com can never fully rebuild their "brand" because any time the name comes up so will the people who the registrar stole money from.

That is outside the other toxic stuff like extreme clients, conspiracy theories, and data breaches that are tied to the registrar.

Outside that, I am not buying the idea that only Rob Monster and Brian Royce knew what was going on.

The idea that no other employees, partners, or investors knew shady shit was going on defies common sense.

Brad

 

[Gabriele]

We didn't buy Epik Inc or Epik Holdings Inc, or Masterbucks LLC. or any of the weird creations of Brian Royce or Rob Monster to take over the free speech world.

You purchased the website, certainly, but for 8 months, until the registrar accreditation change, everything was managed by the "old" Epik Inc, just as it had been in previous years. The only thing that changed during those 8 months was that any payment request for domain sales previously made through the same website (Epik.com) and through the same registrar (Epik Inc) was met with the response that you were now the new Epik LLC and that they should instead contact Masterbucks LLC, which never responded to anyone.

Don’t you think this situation has created even more confusion and given the fraudsters more chances to get away with it, as the majority of people, after facing so many difficulties, simply give up?

Also, some things don't add up, such as the fact that any receipt for payments made on Epik.com was directed to an account in Sammamish (I believe the new Epik could have opened a new bank account in another city within those 8 months).

Masterbucks was in a class of dumpster fire all by itself. Legally speaking, there was a very hard line there we couldn't touch with a football field length pole. It looked like full-blown fraud to us. So we agreed to buy assets like the customer base, the domain registrations, software, and the web sites. Basically, the functional components that make a pure-play registrar.

I think everyone has realized by now that Masterbucks was essentially non-existent, a phantom company created by Brian Royce, taking advantage of the confusion where sales profits appeared on a separate site (masterbucks.com) to attribute all debts—at least on paper—and present a debt-free Epik to potential buyers like yourselves. Most of the sales even preceded the existence of Masterbucks LLC in September 2022, and in any case, there was no reference to "Masterbucks" when making a sale on Epik.com.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575231769992830976

Then, as expected, the same company was dissolved after the sale of Epik.com, making it much more difficult for anyone to get their money back.

By accepting a contract that acknowledges its existence, you were unknowingly used in their scheme. Would you act the same way knowing what you know now, or would you do things differently?

Thank you

 

[alcy]

it's a lot of read and maybe I missed something but did new owners yes or no know about exact money amounts owed and to whom by epik? and is the legal obligation here about new owners doing their own research or about old owners disclosing all debts... ?

 

[tonyk2000]

while we only made an offer to one employee of the old Epik

As you are no doubts aware, old Epik had security issues. The backend, developed and supported by guys from "We can build it" (or something similar, do not remember exact name), was far from perfect. Since you are here and explan that Epik is all new and fine, can you please share did you resolve all these issues, and, if so, how. In particular, who is now responsible for development / support / upgrades of the codebase, servers, etc?

 

[sharfab]

What is the status of the "Victims Fund" that you spoke about? Is it still active for those who still owed money from the old Epik?

 

[bmugford]

What is the status of the "Victims Fund" that you spoke about? Is it still active for those who still owed money from the old Epik?

I would like to know that as well.

Outside Adkisson and Kathleen, I am not aware of many people who were paid.

In those cases Epik and related parties had serious legal exposure, so it is not a surprise those were prioritized while almost everyone else was left holding the bag.

Brad

 

[Grilled]

The backend, developed and supported by guys from "We can build it" (or something similar, do not remember exact name), was far from perfect

Spoiler: You're thinking of We Can Develop IT.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1596286408192557056

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1666832294420652034

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1666832298422022145

** Tagging @Miao since (I think) they are the Portual-based Staffer mentioned in the above tweet re Syctl].]com... I primarily included this tweet to demonstrate how @WeCanDevelopIT.com email accounts were still used as admin accounts within old epiks infastructure.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1664218620149284864

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

The main amount was received by the investors, although the law requires that the clients be settled.
Did the new Epik affect the distribution of sales proceeds?

 

[Derek Peterson]

The main amount was received by the investors, although the law requires that the clients be settled.
Did the new Epik affect the distribution of sales proceeds?

Yes, the money that was paid to you came from new Epik, Epik, LLC. I spoke with the attorney that initiated the transfer of funds several times. He ended up quitting because he said this wasn't worth it...lol. I feel guilty now, he seemed like nice guy. i don't know if money came from the slush fund set up for Monster's victims in asset purchase agreement or was in addition to that but it definitely came from them.

And US law doesn't require them to settle Monster's debts. Everyone needs to sue Monster and his wife. That is the only way.

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

It seems that Epik's promotional activity has died down here. Instead of new simpletons, old ones come and demand to return the stolen money.

 

[yaojiewen]

It seems that Epik's promotional activity has died down here. Instead of new simpletons, old ones come and demand to return the stolen money.

no.everyone still here .
they still didn't payout my 62284usd since 2022.9

 

[yaojiewen]

Absolutely.

For accounts here, this is the only one I'm using. I'll look into the others - they may be old, or had been used by others. Really, we only need this one.

Sarah works for us now, yes. I've worked with her extensively over the past year, and she's one of the good people. I've heard a lot about former Epik employees, and I'll say that she doesn't fall into that mold. I'm not asking you to take my word for it, of course, but I'm certain that as time passes, you'll see that it was a good hire. I even sent her a box of gourmet chocolate chip cookies a couple months ago for going above and beyond. But I'm a softie like that.

To my knowledge, I'm pretty sure she's the only one we made an employee of our Epik.

Christopher

refund my 62284usd ！

 

[yaojiewen]

i want to know how much total they didn't pay to client .lose a company .lost a brand .lose everything .

 

[Derek Peterson]

Ruh Roh. New lawsuit filed. Here is a link to download:

https://wormhole.app/o0XNq#tGYHjSN3X-fhwctiw8Ol4g

 

[jberryhill]

Alternative link for those not wanting their visit logged by who knows...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.339209/gov.uscourts.wawd.339209.1.0.pdf

 

[jideofor]

i want to know how much total they didn't pay to client .lose a company .lost a brand .lose everything .

Many of their staff didn't get paid what was owed.

 

[Future Sensors]

Inside the new Epik – DNW Podcast #501

https://www.namepros.com/articles/inside-the-new-epik-dnw-podcast-501.1335646/

 

[Derek Peterson]

Monster officially served. Batter (noun, verb) up.

 

[Mister Funsky]

I (like a few others) keep a close eye on epik.

There are some ongoing issues with the website operation...one key feature does not work (although it tries to).

I will happily provide a bug report for $30,000 (paid in advance of course).

 

[Grilled]

I (like a few others) keep a close eye on epik.

There are some ongoing issues with the website operation...one key feature does not work (although it tries to).

Nice hook!

I will happily provide a bug report for $30,000 (paid in advance of course).

If anyone could sell a bug report to Registered Agents for $30k, maybe even $50k, it'd probably be Rob...

...perhaps you can ask Rob to broker the bug report to Registered Agents on your behalf?

Spoiler: $1,000,000 Bug Bounty

Rob might even offer you $1,000,0000 paid in masterbucks to buy the report off you instead of brokering it.

 

[Gabriele]

Inside the new Epik – DNW Podcast #501

https://www.namepros.com/articles/inside-the-new-epik-dnw-podcast-501.1335646/

Great interview, however, there’s an 8-month gap in the timeline—from the acquisition of Epik.com’s "assets" in June 2023 to the KiwiFarms issue in late January 2024 (which the Epik LLC representative at the time justified by saying they didn’t know what happened with their Twitter account, but honestly, who cares).

When asked if Monster was still involved with Epik LLC, the response was that he had been hired as a consultant for only a couple of months, which I have no doubt is true. However, someone unfamiliar with the facts might assume that he disappeared from the overall picture after that, whereas it’s well known that:

The "new Epik" had a management agreement to run the registrar alongside the "old Epik" until the accreditation transfer was completed.

epik.com is owned and controlled by Epik LLC. Epik LLC is not owned or operated by any individual, shareholder, investor, or managers of Epik Holdings Inc or Epik Inc. ( Old Epik). Epik LLC has a management agreement to run the registrar until the transfer is approved.

From June 2023 to February 2024, the Epik Inc contact for ICANN was changed from Brian Royce to Registered Agents Inc Secretary Bryce Myrvang, effectively concealing who was really running the "old Epik" during that time.

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Epik finally changed their ICANN contact person from Brian Royce to Bryce Myrvang, the secretary/lawyer of Registered Agents. I wonder if this indicates that they are indeed the buyers and didn't buy on behalf of another party?

Until February 2024, the old Epik Inc was still listed on every part of Epik.com, with invoices directing payment to a bank in Sammamish—the same city where Monster resides:

During this period, while awaiting accreditation changes, Epik continued to operate through the "old" Epik Inc.

In the footer of the website, Epik Inc was listed:
ttps://web.archive.org/web/20240106224837/https://www.epik.com/

In the privacy policy, Epik Inc was mentioned:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240122154122/https://www.epik.com/privacy/

In the general terms, Epik Inc was indicated:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240122153940/https://www.epik.com/terms/

In emails regarding domain renewals and purchases, Epik Inc was always mentioned.

Purchase receipts also indicated Epik Inc, with instructions to make payment to Epik Inc bank account in Sammamish.

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Finally, it’s been admitted that over time they discovered who Monster truly was and what he had done, but they remained silent to avoid disrupting the accreditation process (and, I would add, to not risk losing the money they had already invested).

Rob was spoken about for two reasons, really. One, we thought he was being helpful. And two, once we realized he wasn't we didn't want to churn the mud until the ICANN process was done. That was, in my opinion, a smart decision to just finish the process.

By adding everything up, it becomes clear that Monster didn’t disappear from the picture a couple of months after the asset sale but was somehow involved until the accreditation was completed in February 2024. In my opinion, someone miscalculated, thinking the issue could be resolved within a couple of months, only to be stuck dealing with Monster for nearly a year.

How does new Epik respond to the perception that "buying assets" comes off as new epik bailing out old epik/rob by giving them a golden parachute and exit strategy to escape prosecution or bankruptcy proceedings?

Will new Epik pledge to turn over/report any evidence of said ponzi scheme and/or other wrong doings to the appropriate authorities?

The only way I see new epik fixing their reputation is if new epik were to become whistleblowers against old epik/Rob.

Alternative link for those not wanting their visit logged by who knows...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.339209/gov.uscourts.wawd.339209.1.0.pdf

Since the new Epik claims they were fooled themselves, maybe it’s time to do something useful, like providing everything they have on the old CEOs to the plaintiff of the recent lawsuit. This could help 1) strengthen the case, and 2) make it a public record for everyone to access. And it’s not like they don’t have anything useful to provide, according to the press.

 

[jberryhill]

maybe it’s time to do something useful, like providing everything they have on the old CEOs to the plaintiff

They are likely to prefer to be subpoenaed anyway, since that is a standard exception to NDAs.

Their cooperation - and the cooperation of anyone professing to have inside information - can be compelled.

 

[Gabriele]