alert The fund can't be withdrawal from Epik.com via Masterbucks wallet

[enamebroker]

It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[bmugford]

I noticed the Trustpilot reviews for Epik.com now say -

"Masterbucks LLC / Epik Holdings Inc"

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/epik.com

I think it is clear there is some effort afoot to dissociate the negative "old" Epik.com reviews from "new" Epik.com.

When you acquire an asset, like a registrar, you purchase the good and bad history.

All they are trying to do is dupe new customers (suckers).

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Also, who is Pike.com in their Trustpilot info?

How are they related to Epik?

Did they just mess up spelling "Epik"?

https://www.pike.com/About/

PIKE CORPORATION

With a 75-year track record, Pike Corporation is a leading provider of turnkey infrastructure solutions for electric and gas utilities, as well as telecommunications companies. On the electric side, Pike specializes in the engineering, construction, maintenance and upgrade of transmission, distribution and substation infrastructure. Our expertise ranges from traditional and renewable grid assets and storage, to longer-range smart city planning and implementation. Pike is also a leader in emergency storm restoration. Pike provides similar turnkey engineering and construction solutions for telecommunications clients, supporting the full range of wireline and wireless infrastructure projects, as well as for gas utility clients.

Pike works with hundreds of utility clients across the country and is continuously expanding its offerings to supply them with the ideas, technology, experience, manpower, and equipment they need to perform any job. As our society’s demands on infrastructure increase and technology options diversify, Pike has the experience and resources to take on any challenge.

Contact us no matter how big or small your infrastructure initiative may be, as we have the right-sized offering for you.

 

[tonyk2000]

I noticed the Trustpilot reviews for Epik.com now say -

"Masterbucks LLC / Epik Holdings Inc"

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/epik.com

Yeah, and the right section

epik.com
Visit this website

is actually hyperlinked to Kingdom Ventures

 

[branding]

As per the current T&C:

11. DOMAIN TRANSFERS

When we receive a transfer request, we will call You to verify the transfer request. If we cannot reach You within 72 hours of receipt of the transfer request, the transfer will be denied. If You do not provide the proper PIN, the transfer will be denied. When we receive a change of account request, we will call You to verify the change request. If we cannot reach You within 72 hours of receipt of the change request, the change will be denied. If You do not provide the proper PIN, the change will be denied.

Source: https://www.epik.com/registration/

very interesting...​

Next up: they're going to request an approval by snail mail with a copy of your id.

It's just marketing fluff, about as meaningful as Epik's old "Swiss Bank of Domains" slogan.

Epik is not independent. They are subject to ICANN polices just like every other registrar.

Without ICANN's accreditation they would simply not exist.

Who wants an "independent" registrar that has a history of scamming customers and secretive "new" ownership?

Brad

Per ICANN:

"The Administrative Contact and the Registered Name Holder, as listed in the Losing Registrar's or applicable Registry's (where available) publicly accessible Whois service are the only parties that have the authority to approve or deny a transfer request to the Gaining Registrar."

Amateur hour all over again. About to report them to ICANN.

 

[bmugford]

Yeah, and the right section

epik.com
Visit this website

is actually hyperlinked to Kingdom Ventures

Looks like the Kingdom Ventures "team" is just down to Rob.

https://www.kingdomventures.com/team

Also, the company registration is inactive -

 

[carini]

As per the current T&C:

11. DOMAIN TRANSFERS

When we receive a transfer request, we will call You to verify the transfer request. If we cannot reach You within 72 hours of receipt of the transfer request, the transfer will be denied. If You do not provide the proper PIN, the transfer will be denied. When we receive a change of account request, we will call You to verify the change request. If we cannot reach You within 72 hours of receipt of the change request, the change will be denied. If You do not provide the proper PIN, the change will be denied.

Source: [redacted]

very interesting...​

It's a new policy?

I just transferred 2 domain out of Epik, without receiving any call, and I have to transfer other 3 domain at the end of the month.

 

[bmugford]

It's a new policy?

I just transferred 2 domain out of Epik, without receiving any call, and I have to transfer other 3 domain at the end of the month.

It was changed sometime between 6/10/2023 and 7/27/2023.

6/10/2023 -

https://web.archive.org/web/20230610000059/https://www.epik.com/registration/

7/27/2023 -

https://web.archive.org/web/20230727003704/https://www.epik.com/registration/

There were other changes made as well.

Brad

 

[NicTraders]

It was changed sometime between 6/10/2023 and 7/27/2023.

6/10/2023 -

https://web.archive.org/web/20230610000059/https://www.epik.com/registration/

7/27/2023 -

https://web.archive.org/web/20230727003704/https://www.epik.com/registration/

There were other changes made as well.

Brad

I made a couple of transfers after that time with no issue at all - auth came via email and I could self-approve the transfer no worries.

 

[jacobs]

Not even "Infowars.com" stuck with Epik...I just checked out of curiousity and they too are now registered with CloudFlare. So Epik can't even keep Infowars and Gab anymore haha...

 

[jacobs]

I just transferred my last domain names from Epik, without issue. Goodbye Epik! I did not have to attain a PIN to complete the transfer out.

 

[carini]

Not even "Infowars.com" stuck with Epik...I just checked out of curiousity and they too are now registered with CloudFlare. So Epik can't even keep Infowars and Gab anymore haha...

Yes, "boycott call" works only for a service that is easy to replace (no registrar is truly irreplaceable). Cloudflare is vital for too many business.

 

[Acroplex]

Any updates on who owns/runs the show at Epik?

 

[Derek Peterson]

Not even "Infowars.com" stuck with Epik...I just checked out of curiousity and they too are now registered with CloudFlare. So Epik can't even keep Infowars and Gab anymore haha...

Yeah, apparently that whole crew jumped ship, even bitchute.

 

[NicTraders]

Any updates on who owns/runs the show at Epik?

Nope. All we know is that the owners are supposedly some rich ranchers in Texas.

 

[bmugford]

Another satisfied customer -

 

[tonyk2000]

Transfer terms are changed again. Now they call (as the trustpilot member states), but there is no such a thing in the current T&C.

09/16 version:

11. DOMAIN TRANSFERS

When we receive a transfer request, we will call You to verify the transfer request. If we cannot reach You within 72 hours of receipt of the transfer request, the transfer will be denied. If You do not provide the proper PIN, the transfer will be denied. When we receive a change of account request, we will call You to verify the change request. If we cannot reach You within 72 hours of receipt of the change request, the change will be denied. If You do not provide the proper PIN, the change will be denied.

Current version:

11. DOMAIN TRANSFERS​

If you transfer any domain name, you agree to provide the information required by, and to abide by, the procedures and conditions set forth in our this Agreement and governed by ICANN Policy. In order to further protect your domain name, any domain name registered with Epik or transferred to Epik may be placed on lock status, unless an opted-out option has occurred. The domain name must be placed on unlock status in order to initiate a transfer of the domain name away from Epik to a new registrar. You may log into your User Account with Epik at any time after your domain name has been successfully transferred to Epik, and change the status to unlock.

(quotes end)

https://www.epik.com/registration/

 

[bmugford]

Transfer terms are changed again. Now they call (as the trustpilot member states), but there is no such a thing in the current T&C.

09/16 version:

11. DOMAIN TRANSFERS

When we receive a transfer request, we will call You to verify the transfer request. If we cannot reach You within 72 hours of receipt of the transfer request, the transfer will be denied. If You do not provide the proper PIN, the transfer will be denied. When we receive a change of account request, we will call You to verify the change request. If we cannot reach You within 72 hours of receipt of the change request, the change will be denied. If You do not provide the proper PIN, the change will be denied.

Current version:

11. DOMAIN TRANSFERS​

If you transfer any domain name, you agree to provide the information required by, and to abide by, the procedures and conditions set forth in our this Agreement and governed by ICANN Policy. In order to further protect your domain name, any domain name registered with Epik or transferred to Epik may be placed on lock status, unless an opted-out option has occurred. The domain name must be placed on unlock status in order to initiate a transfer of the domain name away from Epik to a new registrar. You may log into your User Account with Epik at any time after your domain name has been successfully transferred to Epik, and change the status to unlock.

(quotes end)

https://www.epik.com/registration/

My guess is that there were complaints filed with ICANN.

ICANN probably pointed out how that language is not compliant with ICANN transfer policy, then Epik changed the language in the TOS.

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/transfer-policy-2016-06-01-en

3.9 Instances when the requested change of Registrar may not be denied include, but are not limited to:

3.9.1 Nonpayment for a pending or future registration period.
3.9.2 No response from the Registered Name Holder or Administrative Contact.
3.9.3 Domain name in Registrar Lock Status, unless the Registered Name Holder is provided with the reasonable opportunity and ability to unlock the domain name prior to the Transfer Request.
3.9.4 Domain name registration period time constraints, other than during the first 60 days of initial registration, during the first 60 days after a registrar transfer, or during the 60-day lock following a Change of Registrant pursuant to Section II.C.2.
3.9.5 General payment defaults between Registrar and business partners / affiliates in cases where the Registered Name Holder for the domain in question has paid for the registration.

However, did they actually change the policy itself? Maybe not, according to that review.

Brad

 

[tonyk2000]

And, ICANN must still be working hard to approve (or deny) accreditation transfer. It is certainly possible that they denied it, but did not tell anybody. As per ICANN website, current accredited entity is "Epik Inc." with Bryce Myrvang as public contact, not "Epik LLC". Legally and technically, can Epik(s) forever operate this way? At least, registries and ICANN itself are fine with receiving $$$ from LLC, as in their twitter the LLC stated that "all debts were paid" - presumably by the new Wyoming LLC...

 

[Lox]

And, ICANN must still be working hard to approve (or deny) accreditation transfer. It is certainly possible that they denied it, but did not tell anybody. As per ICANN website, current accredited entity is "Epik Inc." with Bryce Myrvang as public contact, not "Epik LLC". Legally and technically, can Epik(s) forever operate this way? At least, registries and ICANN itself are fine with receiving $$$ from LLC, as in their twitter the LLC stated that "all debts were paid" - presumably by the new Wyoming LLC...

epik inc, epik llc, Anonymize, Inc...
reg. under the same agent in Sheridan WY

 

[Mister Funsky]

I've got a few transfers coming up...my ICANN complaint form is ready to fire off in the event they do not perform according to ICANN rules.

Oh yea...I still do not have use of my funds (xx,xxx).