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alert The fund can't be withdrawal from Epik.com via Masterbucks wallet

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It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

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ok i was not aware of all the trouble surrounding epik i do have some domains listed on their market place and also some domains parked there
should i remove them ASAP ?
thank you
I guess what is the value proposition to keep using Epik?

They can't pay customer debts.

Registration/Renewals seem to be taking time to process.

They are not the cheapest.

Their "legendary" support has disappeared.

Not to mention the massive data breach.

With all that factored in, what is the compelling reason to still use Epik?

Many companies can provide similar or better services, without all the BS.

Brad
 
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BetoWH7

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i did buy some domains from them, and now i am worried
i will wait until the renew and then transfer them somewhere else
and for the domains i have on sale there, well i will delist them
it will be a headache and heartbreak to sell some domains there and be unable to receive my money

it is sad because earlier this year i sold one domain there, and got my money no problem it was on the mid xx
but still i was very excited and happy about it
 
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Just saw this on Trust Pilot.

$40M in revenue, eh. I wonder what the source for that number is?

It is a shame that Trust Pilot puts nonsense reviews like this on the same level of importance as ones where people are owed $1.5M, $100K, $70K, $55K, and many other large amounts of money.

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This whole thing is "fake news" it seems.
 
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Chris Hydrick

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I will be moving my entire portfolio (and businesses) to Dynadot when it comes close to renewals. If things get even worse, then I'll move them ASAP.

I've been doing the same. Also max out namecheap transfer deals when offered. Our masterbucks .com registration eventually went through. Only had some nameliquidate masterbuck funds so it was easy to avoid the headache through renewal/registrations. I hope transfers continue to process out without hassle, and that those owed are paid asap!!

I guess what is the value proposition to keep using Epik?

Whats the trust factor in a company who switches leadership, and under new leadership, starts gaslighting customers in trustPilot reviews?

I think when Rob was the magician at healm, folks had a certain trust factor (for better or worse) that he/epik was public and responsive enough to handle any grave concern should a domain issue arrise. Not to toot Robs horn, as he had hard working domainers by his side at different times, but now given the way this has been handled, I'm not sure how new management expects to regain/retain domainer trust.

Maybe that's the plan, to cut off the domainer arm to save the free speech arm? So far it seems Masterbucks issue stems from domain name sellers ie domainers (correct me if I'm wrong) and aside from the alleged epik investment pullout, has their been many complaints from their free speech client arm?
 
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Maybe that's the plan, to cut off the domainer arm to save the free speech arm? So far it seems Masterbucks issue stems from domain name sellers ie domainers (correct me if I'm wrong) and aside from the alleged epik investment pullout, has their been many complaints from their free speech client arm?
No one really knows what is going on behind the scenes, what went on with Rob's exit, commingling of funds, etc.

What is known though is Epik has a lack of funds to pay customer debts. How they got to that place behind Rob's leadership is probably a very interesting story.

Brad
 
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No one really knows what is going on behind the scenes, what went on with Rob's exit, commingling of funds, etc.

What is known though is Epik has a lack of funds to pay customer debts. How they got to that place behind Rob's leadership is probably a very interesting story.

Brad

I guess thats why ultimately the actual courts has more merit than the court of public opinion.

Not to say public opinion doesn't matter, but public opinion alone doesn't seem to be enough of a safeguard.

I'd be highly surprised if some sort of audit doesn't come from this. But I think that outcome is most likely to occur through victim submissions to the washington state AG and other approrpriate regulatory agencies.
 
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No one really knows what is going on behind the scenes, what went on with Rob's exit, commingling of funds, etc.

What is known though is Epik has a lack of funds to pay customer debts. How they got to that place behind Rob's leadership is probably a very interesting story.

Brad
Well, technically we don't know that Epik lacks funds to pay customers, maybe they just aren't paying them. They were given $16M in cash and have absconded with another $4M in users' funds. That's a lot of money. Where is it?
 
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Well, technically we don't know that Epik lacks funds to pay customers, maybe they just aren't paying them. They were given $16M in cash and have absconded with another $4M in users' funds. That's a lot of money. Where is it?
Well, who knows if the accurate number is $4M. Is the only source for that Brian Royce?

He also said he was unaware of the $1.5M Domain Empire debt, and recently found out about another $300K one.

With that factored in, and new reports that keep coming, I think the actual number could be higher.

Also, after the info from @MayChen.com, who knows how much more money is owed to employees and other debts.

Brad
 
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The day @Epik.com didn’t honor my BO years ago, I knew they were a scam.

Good luck with whomever does business with @Rob Monster
 
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ok so i have removed my external domains from the epik marketplace
but my question is i have bought domains there
and paying to transfer them out will be expensive
newbie question here : the transfer is paid to the registrar that you want to MOVE the domains to right ?
and does anybody knows if namecheap has a discount code for transfers ?
thank you
 
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I guess what is the value proposition to keep using Epik?

They can't pay customer debts.

Registration/Renewals seem to be taking time to process.

They are not the cheapest.

Their "legendary" support has disappeared.

Not to mention the massive data breach.

With all that factored in, what is the compelling reason to still use Epik?

Many companies can provide similar or better services, without all the BS.

Brad
The massive data breach was HUGE, that breach had to play a big role in Epiks going forward and the direction of the whole Platform , my data wasn’t just stolen from Epik, someone used my home address as their own address , that person committed a crime using my home address, and I got a call from the BIG men. So that breach had to have played a huge role in the direction of the company .
 
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ok so i have removed my external domains from the epik marketplace
but my question is i have bought domains there
and paying to transfer them out will be expensive
newbie question here : the transfer is paid to the registrar that you want to MOVE the domains to right ?
and does anybody knows if namecheap has a discount code for transfers ?
thank you
Yes, you pay the transfer fee to the registrar that you move the domains TO.
 
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As jberryhill and others have said, you need to file a complaint with the Washington Attorney General if you want Epik and Rob shut down. File your complaint at atg.wa.gov - as suggested many times before.

AFTER YOU FILE COMPLAINT - through the correct platform, THEN EMAIL Bob Ferguson - Washington’s Attorney General. Include your case number and also give an overview of how you are being defrauded.

Mr. Ferguson’s email is [email protected]

If everyone who has been defrauded, files a complaint and ALSO emails Mr, Ferguson, this will be given the attention needed. The state can EVEN put liens on Epik domains and sell those domains to help make defrauded Epik customers whole (through court action).
 
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I've been doing the same. Also max out namecheap transfer deals when offered. Our masterbucks .com registration eventually went through. Only had some nameliquidate masterbuck funds so it was easy to avoid the headache through renewal/registrations. I hope transfers continue to process out without hassle, and that those owed are paid asap!!



Whats the trust factor in a company who switches leadership, and under new leadership, starts gaslighting customers in trustPilot reviews?

I think when Rob was the magician at healm, folks had a certain trust factor (for better or worse) that he/epik was public and responsive enough to handle any grave concern should a domain issue arrise. Not to toot Robs horn, as he had hard working domainers by his side at different times, but now given the way this has been handled, I'm not sure how new management expects to regain/retain domainer trust.

Maybe that's the plan, to cut off the domainer arm to save the free speech arm? So far it seems Masterbucks issue stems from domain name sellers ie domainers (correct me if I'm wrong) and aside from the alleged epik investment pullout, has their been many complaints from their free speech client arm?
Rob ran the ship into the ground not Royce. He deserves zero praise. When he did reply in days gone by he was always self righteous and never took accountability.

People still remain unpaid approaching 120 days after this debacle started. This would be unacceptable in any other payment sector. This is bordering on criminal.

I suspect Rob is still in charge and this was just a legal maneuver to protect himself financially. Anyone still associated with Epik as an employee who condones this shit is also ruining their reputation and losing respect.

Epik is in its death rattle stage. Just a matter of time.
 
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Rob ran the ship into the ground not Royce. He deserves zero praise. When he did reply in days gone by he was always self righteous and never took accountability.

People still remain unpaid approaching 120 days after this debacle started. This would be unacceptable in any other payment sector. This is bordering on criminal.

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File your complaint at atg.wa.gov - as suggested many times before.

AFTER YOU FILE COMPLAINT - through the correct platform, THEN EMAIL Bob Ferguson - Washington’s Attorney General. Include your case number and also give an overview of how you are being defrauded.

Mr. Ferguson’s email is [email protected]

Is directly emailing the AG advised? It's easy to pull a number of additional @ atg.wa.gov email addresses; just unfamiliar to what degree that is advised?

In addition to the state AG and banking authority, I assume victims are also reporting their situation to the FBI Internet Crimes Complaint Center:

https://www.ic3.gov/

Again, this is an intake mechanism for evaluating patterns and identifying high-priority cases. Typically, the FBI will be interested in situations that meet the federal $75,000 threshold, but it may also be of interest if there are multiple complaints directed toward the same criminal enterprise.

You might also productively complaint to the Washington Department of Financial Institutions:

https://dfi.wa.gov/file-complaint

You will notice they have links to file complaints about:

Escrow Agent or Officer Complaint

 
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Rob ran the ship into the ground not Royce. He deserves zero praise. When he did reply in days gone by he was always self righteous and never took accountability.
Actually, in days gone by, Rob & Epik, DID provide good service. Usually very good service. They were worthy of praise at that time. Was there an element of the latter part of your statement as well? For sure. It never sat real well with me but I gave Rob the benefit of the doubt because the service was good, and not every personality is going to gel with your own. Maybe to my detriment, I overlooked many of those traits for too long.

I've got no idea what has gone on in the meantime, nor who did what exactly, but from what we've heard there is almost no doubt that things that are going on now are criminal (e.g. the non-payment of Kathleen, since Epik were acting as an Escrow service). It's a sorry state of affairs.

I suspect that Rob started out with great intentions, but got massively out of his depth. He's an Ideas Man and things like NameLiquidate were a great thing for the industry I reckon. But as was evident time and time again, he wasn't great with details. He developed things on the fly - NL and a bunch of other things were pretty lousy at the outset, but he believed in 'crowd innovation' - he had the initial idea, then we all threw in our 2c worth and it was developed on the fly until it reached some sort of maturity. The problem is that he seems to have taken the same sort of approach to everything. And when it comes to Escrow and Payment Services, those things can't just be improved as you go - you need to start out with a regulatory framework, compliances, and so on, in place from the get-go. Otherwise, you end up co-mingling funds, moving people's money to your own in-house payment service, etc until.. well, the rest is history...

What a shame there wasn't someone who could have harnessed his ideas and helped implement them in an organized manner.
 
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I should also add, IMHO I think they should shut up shop immediately. They have made it blatantly obvious that they're unable of running things properly. They should perform an orderly transfer of domains and services to another registrar and appoint an administrator/liquidator (assuming that's what you guys call them in the US) to handle things. To keep operating (and taking money from the likes of Kathleen) is plain immoral. I'm sure they're trying to 'trade their way out of it', but I think it's well past that. I don't take any pleasure in that - I still have a lot of domains there that I am going to have to move - but it seems the writing is on the wall.
 
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Actually, in days gone by, Rob & Epik, DID provide good service. Usually very good service. They were worthy of praise at that time. Was there an element of the latter part of your statement as well? For sure. It never sat real well with me but I gave Rob the benefit of the doubt because the service was good, and not every personality is going to gel with your own. Maybe to my detriment, I overlooked many of those traits for too long.

I've got no idea what has gone on in the meantime, nor who did what exactly, but from what we've heard there is almost no doubt that things that are going on now are criminal (e.g. the non-payment of Kathleen, since Epik were acting as an Escrow service). It's a sorry state of affairs.

I suspect that Rob started out with great intentions, but got massively out of his depth. He's an Ideas Man and things like NameLiquidate were a great thing for the industry I reckon. But as was evident time and time again, he wasn't great with details. He developed things on the fly - NL and a bunch of other things were pretty lousy at the outset, but he believed in 'crowd innovation' - he had the initial idea, then we all threw in our 2c worth and it was developed on the fly until it reached some sort of maturity. The problem is that he seems to have taken the same sort of approach to everything. And when it comes to Escrow and Payment Services, those things can't just be improved as you go - you need to start out with a regulatory framework, compliances, and so on, in place from the get-go. Otherwise, you end up co-mingling funds, moving people's money to your own in-house payment service, etc until.. well, the rest is history...

What a shame there wasn't someone who could have harnessed his ideas and helped implement them in an organized manner.
Rob is a liar and fraud. He has always been a liar and a fraud. Just because he helps someone with something doesn't change what he is. All conmen do the same, it is how cons work. First they have to gain your confidence.

1) Rob Monster helped Andrew Torba commit fraud by lying about their traffic which helped them raise millions of dollars in SEC Fraud. Rob knew Torba was lying, he bought the hosting company where gab hosted that had publicly stated that Gab was lying about their traffic. He sent me that companies full financials for some odd reason before purchasing. Rob demanded I take down my videos exposing the scam, of course I did not.
2) Rob Monster lied about and helped cover up Gab selling of child porn behind pay walls. I proved to him the case and he again demanded I take down my videos. That hosting company he purchased, sybil, was the largest distributor of lolicon in the world.
3) Rob Monster launched a white label VPN and pretended it was his and promised full privacy and security KNOWING he had no control over it. When I revealed that he threatened me more, called me every name in the book and tried to get me blocked on all socials.
4) Rob Monster lied about the security of his own site. Claimed it was the totally secure and yet, he not only had never reviewed the code he didn't even own it apparently and they were violating every privacy and security precaution known to man which resulted in thousands of people's data being dumped on the internet, people losing their jobs and even people going to jail.
5) Rob Monster defrauded investors and stole millions.
6) Rob Monster defrauded his own users and stole millions.

Rob Monster is not a Christian. He is a filthy lying affinity grifter that has no concern for anyone or anything. Anything good he does is prep for manipulation in future. Any normal person who had told as many lies and hurt as many people as he has would have confessed and repented by now but what he does it threaten and try to silence. I have no sympathy for the Devil or Rob Monster. He gets what he gets.
 
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Actually, in days gone by, Rob & Epik, DID provide good service. Usually very good service. They were worthy of praise at that time.

This is like praising a Ponzi scheme founder for a great service in the beginning. Duh. How else you get people give you their money voluntarily? Of course, it takes some work, smoke and mirrors, feel good, empowerment, false hopes, fast riches, shoot to the moon (search the thread on NP from Monster), holding hands, personal touch.

Now I am not saying this all was planned as Ponzi from the beginning, but surely he should have realized that it was probably heading that way. I mean, where did all those millions of $ go? Either he/they channeled the funds elsewhere, or wasted by excessive/lavish spending, or gambled on hyper-risk "assets" like cryptos.

For the latter, if, e.g., he bet $10MM in BTC and the currency doubled, he'd still be hero and visionary by putting $10MM back, investing $1-2 in expansion and pocketing $8MM (again, these are all possibilities, not facts, albeit based on realistic interpretation of the facts we can see). And, the way BTC crashed and lost 75% of its value in a year, he'd be left with $2.5MM scrambling to make up the shortage. Now, that is assuming there was no leverage. If he used any options hoping to turn his $10MM into $50MM with BTC doubling, he could lose it ALL, so $0 left from $10MM.
 
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Now I am not saying this all was planned as Ponzi from the beginning, but surely he should have realized that it was probably heading that way. I mean, where did all those millions of $ go? Either he/they channeled the funds elsewhere, or wasted by excessive/lavish spending, or gambled on hyper-risk "assets" like cryptos.
Of course, at some point, he should have realised. But, by then, most people involved in such a scheme would be in too deep, and would keep telling themselves they could trade their way out of it and go straight when it's fixed. As to where all the $$$ went, I suspect we'll never know. I wonder if Rob even knows. He doesn't strike me as the sort of bloke who has a lot of checks and balances in place.
 
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Rob Monster is not a Christian. He is a filthy lying affinity grifter that has no concern for anyone or anything. Anything good he does is prep for manipulation in future. Any normal person who had told as many lies and hurt as many people as he has would have confessed and repented by now but what he does it threaten and try to silence. I have no sympathy for the Devil or Rob Monster. He gets what he gets.
Well, Derek, you profess to be a Christian yourself, so surely you would know that God Himself is the only one qualified to make that judgment.
 
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Just reporting that the Epik registrar-level failures are getting worse. Started last week Thursday afternoon, Washington time. Registered a name, delayed registration for hours but did get registered. Then after that attempted another registration but was only registered today which I somewhat expected based on last time's failure. Just now I made another attempt to register. Name remain unregged. (All .coms)

It would seem that E is funding their Verisign account less and less with each day passing by......
 
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Well, Derek, you profess to be a Christian yourself, so surely you would know that God Himself is the only one qualified to make that judgment.
False. That is some concept non Christians who have never read the Bible make up and yet do non stop. We, Christians, are commanded to judge and discern the spirits and others and some day we will judge the angels. Focus on the topic and not your feeling about me or hot takes on Christianity. Thanks.
 
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