alert The fund can't be withdrawal from Epik.com via Masterbucks wallet

[enamebroker]

It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[Derek Peterson]

As franka46 said on his own Epik thread, Brian told him 'he will try to keep Epik alive ,''whatever it takes"'.

If Brian does truly mean that, how far 'whatever it takes' will to taken, try to be taken...

I think Frank and Brian would say about anything for a buck. Also, Frank probably has no idea what all is going on so really dumb of him to even chime in.

 

[bmugford]

I saw a reference to this video by @Kathleen Kalaf on the dead domain forum -

There was also a reference to the video on the most popular Canadian domain forum.

Brad

 

[Derek Peterson]

Losing domains. All systems broke.

 

[Derek Peterson]

If anyone is looking to vent reporting Epik to ICAAN might make you feel better and do some good. I think this is the proper form: https://icannportal.force.com/compliance/s/generic-registrar

But maybe check out this for special circumstances: https://www.icann.org/compliance/complaint

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Are domains no longer able to be registered at Epik? A glitch, or is epik struggling to fund registrations now?

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I just tried testing the theory by attempting to register a .com at epik via masterbucks. I instantly received a masterbucks receipt. 16 minutes later I received an Epik receipt. Still, the domain I have receipts for registering remains unregistered. I'll update this thread when/if the domain is registered.

 

[carob]

10,000 foot evaluation.

Epik was given $16,000,000 by investors. Paid back ~$6,000,000 in cash and assets. Absconded with about $4,000,000 in customer funds. That equals about $14,000,000 more than they had at the start.

If Epik has $14,000,000 extra cash why can't they pay people back? Where did all that money go? Is Monster hiding it in offshore accounts or crypto. Did he lose it gambling on crypto or stocks? Was he and Epik really that far in debt?

There is something else happening behind the scenes creating this situation. It makes no sense.

Anyone have a list of tropical countries with no extradition treaties with the US? Anyone want to place a bet on finding that in the search histories of Epik Bosses?

You could retirely nicely on $14,000,000 amd even start your own church on a sunny island and preach.

 

[carob]

Anyone have a list of tropical countries with no extradition treaties with the US? Anyone want to place a bet on finding that in the search histories of Epik Bosses?

You could retirely nicely on $14,000,000 amd even start your own church on a sunny island and preach.

I feel really sorry for the victims here, and I hope they use the law, the state of Washington, publicity, collection agencies, politicians or whatever it takes to get their money back. They don't deserve this nightmare. I wonder if the lack of media coverage reflects an assumption that domains should not have resale value and sellers deserve no sympathy? As Brad said, imagine if a real estate agent pocketed the buyer's funds and kept publicly doing the same to new victims. Things would really hit the fan, fast and hard.

Epik taking new escrow transactions when they can't and won't pay out is textbook fraud - law enforcement should step in here.

Well the law would take charge in the TV series Death In Paradise - they might investigate a mystery body in a pool in an episode called The Monster in the Pool.

Perhaps Monster has bought the fictional island of St Marie featured in that series?

 

[bmugford]

Look at @Tony Blessed playing dumb about this.

There is a $70K transaction above that specifically lists him as the escrow manager.

Trying to play semantics like he has nothing to do with Masterbucks.

He is enabling escrow transactions that are leaving sellers with a Masterbucks balance that can't be withdrawn.

What a joke.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1599365619606228993

Brad

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

Maybe Masterbucks has hacked Epik and is stealing customer money from Epik's accounts?

 

[D Haynes]

Look at @Tony Blessed playing dumb about this.

There is a $70K transaction above that specifically lists him as the escrow manager.

Trying to play semantics like he has nothing to do with Masterbucks.

He is enabling escrow transactions that are leaving sellers with a Masterbucks balance that can't be withdrawn.

What a joke.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1599365619606228993

Brad

What an absolute con artist. How do these people sleep at night knowing they're stealing money from people. It's no different from taking money from someones wallet or purse. Kudos to you too Brad for calling him out.

 

[DomainNature]

I was thinking for long time but did not post this.
What if this situation is related to crypto?
I was paid each month during more than one year in Bitcoin from Bodis parking revenue, i was paid around 80USD, then I was transfering from Bitcoin to HNS, after the crypto fall down, i woke up that i had around 30USD in HNS from those 80USD transfered, with Masterbucks can be something similar.

 

[Domain Ethos]

Time to send tips to all of the major news outlets.

 

[DomainNature]

Time to send tips to all of the major news outlets.

If this is in my reply responce, then go grow potatos.

 

[MannDude]

Dusting off my account that I haven't logged into for nine years for this.

I came here from the LowEndTalk thread. -- The NamePros thread is considerably longer. Has ICANN gotten involved in any way up to this point?

 

[Derek Peterson]

If this is in my reply responce, then go grow potatos.

When you do send them links to this thread and the articles I have written and those weaklings domainnamewire wrote and their podcast for background. It will make it much easier for them to gather info.

Spread these far and wide to all news outlets:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/th...from-epik-com-via-masterbucks-wallet.1284050/

https://providencepost.com/epik-update-masterbucks-fails-to-payout-customers-after-maintenance/

https://providencepost.com/a-monster-of-epik-proportions/

https://domainnamewire.com/2022/12/01/epik-continues-to-dig-out-from-financial-mess/

https://domainnamewire.com/2022/10/24/epiks-new-ceo-dnw-podcast-410/

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Are domains no longer able to be registered at Epik? A glitch, or is epik struggling to fund registrations now?


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I just tried testing the theory by attempting to register a .com at epik via masterbucks. I instantly received a masterbucks receipt. 16 minutes later I received an Epik receipt. Still, the domain I have receipts for registering remains unregistered. I'll update this thread when/if the domain is registered.

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Update, some 12 hours later, domain still not registered... It could be a weekend domain registration thing. As has been mentioned before in this thread, at least once on October 10th, by @karmaco ::

Don’t ever renew or register close to or on the weekend. If they don’t have enough money with the registry they will not go through. It happened to me once awhile back.


By all appearances, Epik is financially unstable. I hope you guys start getting your payments today as promised.

... so I guess we'll see what happens come Monday.

Dusting off my account that I haven't logged into for nine years for this.

Welcome back!

Has ICANN gotten involved in any way up to this point?

I don't think any official word from ICANN has came out.

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@bmugford -- has the ICA been made aware of his? Seeing how this is internet commerce, it seems this may be of their interest.

 

[GoKaizen]

Thanks for sharing.

Ridiculous what Epik is doing.

Hi Igor, I don't know where my funds went. They were in Epik Escrow and were supposed to be sent to my bank account via direct deposit. But they sent them over to Masterbucks account, which I never agreed to. See my video.

 

[Domain Ethos]

If this is in my reply responce, then go grow potatos.

This was a serious reply to the entirety of the thread and the issues which have arisen from Epik. News outlets should be tipped off. Kathleen has already done her due diligence, correctly, in contacting her attorney general. They will assign her a case number and will investigate further.

Epik has failed to transparently communicate with the public in regard to their system failing to register domains and transparently communicate what is really going on with their love affair with their 3rd party escrow provider holding funds hostage. Using Masterbucks as a service makes them entirely complicit even if they are separate entities. They should feel the pressure to be transparent and be publicly highlighted so more regulators catch wind of this (State/SEC/FBI investigations, etc).

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Does anybody know if stalling weekend regsitrations is against ICANN policy?

Because I paid in masterbucks, and considering the stall, I'm wondering if reporting this to...

https://icannportal.force.com/compliance/s/generic-registrar

...would constitute as a complaint with merrit?

Not sure what type of information ICANN needs before they can intervene, but maybe a report combining the stalled regsitration of a domain paid for with epiks alleged debtridden masterbucks would provide an additional opening for ICANN to investigate? I assume the domain will be registered by epik come Monday (if somebody doesnt register it between now and then) just wondering if the weekend registration stall + masterbucks has ICANN complaint merrit?

 

[Domain Ethos]

Does anybody know if stalling weekend regsitrations is against ICANN policy?

Because I paid in masterbucks, and considering the stall, I'm wondering if reporting this to...

...would constitute as a complaint with merrit?

Not sure what type of information ICANN needs before they can intervene, but maybe a report combining the stalled regsitration of a domain paid for with epiks alleged debtridden masterbucks would provide an additional opening for ICANN to investigate? I assume the domain will be registered by epik come Monday (if somebody doesnt register it between now and then) just wondering if the weekend registration stall + masterbucks has ICANN complaint merrit?

It’s not just weekend registrations. I bought a domain through them middle of the week and it took 48 hours for them to add it to my account.

I contacted support after the first two hours. The support agent advised there was a technical issue with the order and she alerted the tech team to fix it ASAP. I bought another domain without issue the next day, but this seems to be an on-going issue every day.

 

[Alop]

Time to send tips to all of the major news outlets.

Send em. Open season. Welcome

 

[Derek Peterson]

Anyone have a list of tropical countries with no extradition treaties with the US? Anyone want to place a bet on finding that in the search histories of Epik Bosses?

You could retirely nicely on $14,000,000 amd even start your own church on a sunny island and preach.

Yeah, he is definitely going to try and run. I will follow.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Time to send tips to all of the major news outlets.

Maybe that's exactly what Epik wants?

Thinking once this hits MSM, that maybe Kanye will invest and bail epik out?

I mean, if Epik falls, it's not just what happens to domainers domains, it's what happens to the InfoWars.com's, the Gab.com's, and other high profile domains that are likely not welcome at all domain registrars.

When Pheenix fell, Pheenix registered domains were moved to encirca...

https://www.namepros.com/threads/pheenix-domains-being-moved-to-encirca.1079290/

... but if Epik goes under, will the new registrar have to accept all of epiks domains even if some of epiks domains are the home of content that is against the new registrars ToS?

 

[Derek Peterson]

Does anybody know if stalling weekend regsitrations is against ICANN policy?

Because I paid in masterbucks, and considering the stall, I'm wondering if reporting this to...

https://icannportal.force.com/compliance/s/generic-registrar

...would constitute as a complaint with merrit?

Not sure what type of information ICANN needs before they can intervene, but maybe a report combining the stalled regsitration of a domain paid for with epiks alleged debtridden masterbucks would provide an additional opening for ICANN to investigate? I assume the domain will be registered by epik come Monday (if somebody doesnt register it between now and then) just wondering if the weekend registration stall + masterbucks has ICANN complaint merrit?

I read through the ICAAN rules last night. They have surprisingly little control over registrars, which I think is a good thing, but they do have some things that trigger them, one of them being not registering domains.

The table on the bottom of the page links to types of complaints: https://www.icann.org/compliance/complaint

 

[Derek Peterson]

Maybe that's exactly what Epik wants?

Thinking once this hits MSM, that maybe Kanye will invest and bail epik out?

I mean, if Epik falls, it's not just what happens to domainers domains, it's what happens to the InfoWars.com's, the Gab.com's, and other high profile domains that are likely not welcome at all domain registrars.

When Pheenix fell, Pheenix registered domains were moved to encirca...

https://www.namepros.com/threads/pheenix-domains-being-moved-to-encirca.1079290/

... but if Epik goes under, will the new registrar have to accept all of epiks domains even if some of epiks domains are the home of content that is again the new registrars ToS?

There are lots of existing free speech registrars that host content and domains for all sorts of things - KKK, etc etc. Of course, Monster wants everyone to think that he was the only option. It is not true. No money in domain sales and not huge reason currently in regards to free speech but if needed I will create or buy one.

Also, to be clear both of the examples you cited are fake, literal fed honey traps that have been used to entrap and prosecute good people. I have been personally banned by both for exposing them selling real child porn behind paywalls, handing over user data without warrants in direct violation of ToS, Lying about traffic to solicit donations and other real crimes. Once I'm done with Monster those 2 are next.

The leftists don't actually try to take these things down because:
1) They know they are a net negative for the right.
2) They need them for the fear drama. Without garbage like Monster, Torba, Fuentes, Milo, Jones, Ali, etc they get no clicks. Left and right fear porn grifters need each other.