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Someone needs to stop Roy Flanders’ domain names from expiring

Labeled as domains in Domain Industry News started by equity78, May 21, 2019.

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  1. strong

    strong Member NameBio Staff DomainNameNews.com ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Yea I read a bunch of hearsay. Drop me a line next time

    I hope I cleared up enough stuff on your blog. To add it here :

    Mike hasn't been with DG since 2016.
    "A couple of years back" means it would have been after his departure from Domain Guardians.

    There are no services currently being offered by Domain Guardians.

    Roy was not a contracted client of Domain Guardians ever.

    I sincerely hope that Roy's daughter sorts this out. Jen and I (and I'm guessing even Mike) are available to help out if needed. It seems like everyone is willing to lend a hand here. I see that Ron Jackson believes that Ari, Ammar and Rob Grant are figuring it all out.
     
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  2. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Yeah I posted here and thanked you on TheDomains. Brian Wick said they spoke all the time he was the one who mentioned DomainGuardians.

    I contacted Ron Jackson at 6 am this morning by email he contacted Ari, Ammar and Rob.
     
  3. mr-x

    mr-x Acme Domains Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I don't understand the push back by domainers over friends trying to protect another friends legacy and help his family recover assets.

    Hopefully you will have friends willing to enthusiastically help your family if the need arises.
     
  4. MadAboutDomains

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    This quote pretty much sums it up...

    Some people have bad intentions, they're opportunists. That is all the perceived push back is.

    I'm sure that no one would disagree that whomever Roy bestowed with his portfolio should be given a friendly nudge, but as I've already stated I consider it healthy to exercise some skepticism about increasing numbers of people circling around what one could perceive as a list of high value domains that are just destined to drop unless someone intervenes and speculating that they should be liquidated or whatever else. Also given that he died from a long illness, the blind assumption is that he would have had time to make preparations as he knew he was ill, so there may not be any assets to "recover" in accordance with his wishes that may already have been expressed.

    Being that we don't know much about it, all that I've pointed out is that it may well be his intention to let them go, which hasn't been refuted robustly yet as shown below:

    It goes without saying that I wish for the best outcome for his family and to his portfolio.
     
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  5. HotKey

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    Yup I'm not seeing any push back, just some of us seeking clarity. There's was not a lot to go by with the thread title and the context provided. I'll admit I got a little alarmed, because as far as I can tell, no assets have been lost (the domains seem to have belonged to one man), nothing was stolen, and no one needs help, yet the thread implies altering the process of the domain name life cycle, specifically the expiration process.

    Anyhow, may it all work out to someone's favor, and thx for the head-up Equity. I think maybe what he was hoping for with this thread is more of an awareness thing, more eyes mean perhaps someone knows someone who could get involved in a last ditch effort to keep the domains in the family. Kudos to that, and having a friend on your side like that is the best asset anyone can have, imo.
     
  6. cipcip

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    That is why you should pay epik to secure your domain for life, but then yet again, you should let someone else know your account password :)
     
  7. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I spoke to Ari Goldberger and he told me he is on the case, and Roy's daughter does have the info to the account.
     
  8. mr-x

    mr-x Acme Domains Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    It is more likely Roy's family / daughter didn't understand the value of his portfolio. His friends and other trying to help may be motivated by something besides empathy but what does that matter if the family gets the benefit.
     
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  9. myfavorite

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    I remember someone opened a thread on this. I still suggest if Registrars can create an option of next of kin email so when a domain is not renewed on time, an email can be sent to notify the person.
     
  10. platey

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    Because of the situation causing the domains to expire etc

    Someone like godaddy should contact the relevant registrar and pick up the tab for all renewals for the next 2 years which buys a years time to have a chat with whoever Roy left his portfolio to and explain the situation and let them know the value of the portfolio and if the cash is needed etc a registrar should offer a loan facility against the portfolio etc which would be taken back when the odd domain can be sold in a managed manner thus keeping the portfolio together as I'm sure it's original owner would have wanted etc

    And I know that not everyone would do this but most would give the domain back in exchange for their money back if they knew the circumstances as to why the domain name expired etc and under normal circumstances the domain names would not have become available

    There should be

    Domain name insurance

    With every domain name purchased

    The domain name insurance would renew all domains and or offer a

    Domain name management service that is overseen by a board of long term domain name investors brokers and registrars etc

    Even now decades after the early days of domain names etc more

    Domain name infrastructure needs to be added

    Eg

    Domain name insurance

    Domain name portfolio management

    Domain name pawnbrokers

    More brokers that sell average domain names which will add liquidity to the domain name industry as a whole

    But with big cheese domain name investors and the many legal bods in the domain name industry this situation should be sorted out very quickly for the sake of the late man's estate and his wishes
     
  11. MadAboutDomains

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    The man died from a long illness. As a man that clearly knows about domains to the point that he even goes to domain conventions, what makes everyone think that he didn't make his own plans for the names before his passing and that he executed those plans?
     
  12. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I can't say everything but actually Roy's daughter did understand her Father's portfolio and this is a very complicated story that EsqWire has made a priority to help her as Roy and Ari were friends. There is a reason why a lawyer took the lead here.
     
  13. korganian

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    Just combine a will and life insurance and you will insure that there are instructions and funding to carry out those instructions.
     
  14. platey

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    Exactly but few have that in place and even fewer will be able to afford to put the funding in place

    As the early domain name investors that were investing in domain names late 80'sand 90's etc will be getting on in years etc this situation will be more frequent but we will eventually see different examples of how of domain name investors leave digital assets to people that do not understand what they are and or there value etc

    I would suppose people will leave domain names in trust of some sort or as a digital asset hedge fund

    The same situation will also affect crypto currency investors that bought bitcoin early doors and 10p each and didn't sell at £15k each but sat on them and still own them etc
     
  15. cooljub

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    It would be nice, and might be the right thing to do, but of course would also mean the registrar would not get the proceeds themselves. I wonder if we'll see that happening against the tide of greed culture in the corporate world? I'd be surprised.
     
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  16. frank-germany

    frank-germany F1lter.com xpired domain search engine Gold Account VIP

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    and make sure that "for life" doesn't mean
    "life of epik"
    but life of "whom ?"
    the guy is dead
     

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