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Showcase -Debate - Discuss .online vs. .com

Labeled as showcase in gTLD Discussion, started by ThatNameGuy, Feb 12, 2021

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  1. ThatNameGuy

    ThatNameGuy Restricted (33% DM) Gold Account

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    Joe...what do you know about money laundering and the domain industry? Due to my investigative background here's what I've learned;

    MoneyLaundering.online:xf.wink:

    Hint...are you aware that well over 50% of aftermarket domains that are sold whether they're .com's or new gTLD's are never developed? Why do you suppose that is:xf.smile:
     
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  2. Joe N

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    That's a very interesting statistic, Rich. There could be a lot of potential reasons. Before discussing, could you share your source of this information?
     
  3. bmugford

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    Source: Numbers pulled from my ass.

    We have seen this before. If you are going to bring stats, which are quantifiable, you need to bring a citation as well.
     
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  4. ThatNameGuy

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    Brad....see my response to Joe, and here is something else i pulled out of my ass;

    Don't look now Joe and Brad, but .online is on FIRE!, according to the statistics that is:xf.wink:
     
  5. ThatNameGuy

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    Joe it's very SAD:xf.frown: that you and Brad know so little about statistics and the domain industry that you would even think about questioning my credibility with regards to how many actual domains sold turn into websites.

    I know you know this, but for anyone else following, simply go to Namebio where you can find all names "sold" over the last 10 years. Then see for yourself that "well over 50%" of domains sold are never developed. What comes to mind for me is MoneyLaundering.online on a massive scale:xf.wink: Either that or outright stupidity.

    To keep you and others happy Joe, here are a few of the .online gems my developer/partner and I registered in the last few days.

    BuyFlooring.online (this is for my developers brother who owns one of the largest "flooring" companies in Arizona.

    This led me to register;

    BuySex.online
    BuyAdvice.online
    BuyDogs.online

    we also registered;

    Chargeit(y)online
     
  6. bmugford

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    Citation please...

    .ONLINE in the last year -

    52 total reported sales.
    $32,700 total dollar volume.

    That looks more like a dumpster fire. 🗑️🔥

    Brad
     
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  7. Joe N

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    $628 average per sale, and only 13 four-figure sales? Oh my... that's even worse than I expected.

    Scariest news might be that zero of those four figure sales were for two word names.
     
  8. ThatNameGuy

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    Oh Brad....you know I can pull sales out of my ass like i can stats. Don't know if you watch Shark Tank, but I just finished watching tonight's episode where two chefs working at the finest dining facility in the world "The French Laundry" developed a specialty selling truffles. Follow me so far Brad? Do you know what a truffle is? In any case, when they said they started a "VirtualCooking" class online for an upscale CC, the kind you and I and Joe belong to, I thought wow, that's cool:xf.cool: Thus I'm showcasing just for you;

    VirtualCooking.online

    Brad I'd give you this domain, but you obviously wouldn't know what to do with it like contact the two young chefs on Shark Tank to see if they might be interested? In case you think I'm lying, just go to youtube in a day or two and you'll see first hand these young fella's talking to the world about "Virtual Cooking".

    Get back to me Brad with your questions, wherever it is you pull them from:xf.wink:
     
  9. ThatNameGuy

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    Joe...a little misdirection here...you know, the kind you use.

    What do you think of my response to Brad about Shark Tank and VirtualCooking.online? Think real hard now Joe and lets see what sort of misdirection you can come up with:xf.wink:
     
  10. Joe N

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    They won't be interested, Rich.

    As a savvy business guy, why aren't you seeing that you could take the few thousand dollars you spent in .online names and invest it in a few good quality names? Those names could be sold for a decent profit to to end users who would be happy paying the price because they know the value. And if you don't find an end user as quickly as you had hoped, the names will retain their value if you bought smartly.

    End users don't see value in these .online names you're buying. Even after you explain it to them, it will be your opinion, with no backing data, against the opinion of the rest of the world.
     
  11. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I would love to respond Rich, but I am busy working on Joe's Yachts for Tots project. :)

    Brad
     
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  12. Chris Hydrick

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    Ahhh... so that's where these .online sales and stats are coming from? :mooning:

    Farts.Online/SalesNStats
     
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  13. ThatNameGuy

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    Oh Joe....i guess you did see Shark Tank then, and your comment "they won't be interested" may be right, but "Virtual Cooking Online" are the EXACT words they used. If you were working for me and you didn't at least follow up on something like this you'd be FIRED!

    I see you didn't get back to me after checking Namebio to see how many of these sales actually turn into websites? And you don't think any of these sales involve money laundering? How naive:xf.rolleyes:

    Just for giggles, here are the .xyz sales our friend from India made according to Andrew of DNN;

    Props.xyz $7,888 - no site
    Split.xyz $7,888 - no site
    Propel.xyz $2,850 - no site (however, coming soon)
    Shimmer.xyz $2,700 - no site
    Zinc.xyz $3,495 - no site (however, for sale at GD)
    Islands.xyz $3,495 - an actual site(y)

    Joe....there's actually just one site developed out of all six names listed. Now that you've checked my statistical analysis "pulled" from Namebio and the above, wouldn't you like to retract your insinuation?

    Finally, to your comment "End users don't see value in these .online names you're buying" That's right Joe they don't even know they exist, but there's a new sheriff in town:xf.wink:

    I see where Margot Bushnaq, CEO of Brand Bucket lists Endusers.com for $60,000, and I just purchased Endusers.online for .99 cents:xf.rolleyes:....comments anyone, i think Joe may have :eggface: on his face.








     
  14. Joe N

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    To clarify... You want people who are working for you to watch Shark Tank, register domain names that match what startup owners say, and then attempt to contact the owners and sell the names? That's an interesting use of time and money, Rich.
    I actually asked you to provide your source for that statement, but you never did.
    All short, one-word names. Interesting!
    There was no analysis, Rich. You just listed some sales from a blog post and made a seemingly random statement about how many names get developed.
     
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  15. ThatNameGuy

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    Joe we all know your agenda is to bait me anyway you can, but I refuse to be caught. I told you my source was Namebio for domains that are never developed, and now that you know that you refuse to accept the findings.....SAD:xf.frown: If you truly care about discrediting me Joe you have to do much better:xf.rolleyes:

    YChange.online*

    ChangeUp.online

    * Joe, there's a story behind most every domain I own, and YChange.online is no different. Check out YChange.com, and see if you can figure it out:xf.wink:

    After that check out CahngeUp.online and see if you can figure out why I registered it? Hint it has something to do with TQM(y)
     
  16. Joe N

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    I'm never baiting, Rich, just trying to extract information. Your statements of fact are often missing the necessary detail to derive any real meaning from them.

    Now I think I understand what you're saying though... You looked at the last X number of domains listed as sold on Namebio, checked to see if they had active websites, and found that over 50% of them did not. Is that correct? If not, please clarify.

    If that's the research you did, it's not terribly informative, since the time range likely wasn't long enough to expect that there would yet be active sites operating on those names. Certainly not enough time to claim that the names were "never" developed.
     
  17. ThatNameGuy

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    Sure you're "baiting" me Joe, and do you know how I know? Bait stinks, and everyone knows it.

    Showcasing;

    HomePlate.online - GD values .com at $13,708 - and there are lots of potential uses from home cooking to the name of a restaurant

    HoeDown.online - GD values .com at $ 5,807, and is asking $50,000:ROFL:

    Joe, at your expense I'm having more fun than I ever dreamed possible. Thanks for the mini vacation(y)
     
  18. Joe N

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    Let me know if you ever figure out how to validate your false statement, Rich.
     
  19. ThatNameGuy

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    Joe....now I'm beginning to think you're being paid to stalk, harass and discredit me. Even based on your criteria we've gone back on Namebio to recorded sales between 2019 and 2020 and OVER 65% of sold domains have never been developed. Again, money laundering on a massive scale comes to mind:xf.wink:

    Showcasing just for you Joe;

    BiggestLoser.online

    and for me;

    FactoryDirect.online - even GD values the .com equivalent @ $22,000, and Nameworth @ 74,500:xf.smile:
     
  20. Joe N

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    What criteria did you use in your search, Rich? In order to properly discuss whatever results you came up with, we need to know exactly what search filters you used. Are we talking about only .com names? Only names within a certain price range? Or did you check every single name listed on Namebio in 2019 and 2020 to see if they've been developed yet?
     
  21. ThatNameGuy

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    Nunya Joe:xf.wink: Your failed attempt to take this thread off topic is just that....a failure!

    I wish I could say something nice about you, but it would be a lie:xf.frown:

    Not much more to say, but my .online domain "users group" is starting to gel.

    Showcasing;

    Philanthropic.online - means you're ready for PrimeTime!
     
  22. Joe N

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    Showcasing:

    FakeData.online

    Yet again unable to express yourself without resorting to personal attacks. Such a pity that you're this poorly equipped.online to make a coherent point.
     
  23. Lox

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    @ That Smart Guy .... manage to smuggle (here) more than 250 dot online of domains out of the NPs (External) Sales thread. Impressive tac-tic.

    Regards
     
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  24. ThatNameGuy

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    Lox...i actually own NamePros.online speaking of impressive tactics:xf.smile:

    also just picked up VirtualGuy.online and Sleazy.online. When you go to VirtualGuy.com you'll understand why I registered Sleazy.online:xf.wink:
     
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  25. ThatNameGuy

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    With regards to your fake data insinuation, check out the popularity of the .online extension @ ntldstats.com and get back to me:xf.wink:
     

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