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Sellers Can't Sell Coronavirus Domain Names on Dan.com

Labeled as news in Domain Industry News, started by EJS, Mar 26, 2020

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  1. bulkdomainz

    bulkdomainz Established Member

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    Corona babies will start arriving as from September 2020 (Wuhan lockdown).

    The 'anti-corona-domains' gang will likely stage a massive protest on twitter with #nocoronababies 🙄🙄
     
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  2. satsdifference.com

    satsdifference.com Love God Love Life Gold Account

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    have any children claimed to have died or not? 0?
     
  3. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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    a baby died in the US
     
  4. satsdifference.com

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  5. Bernard Wright

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  6. bulkdomainz

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    @LaszloSchenk
    @DAN.COM

    WHY was DAN making an announcement on Twitter instead of sending email to their customers that they would be removing all Corona names? You also did not send any emails to say you had deleted certain names, like you do when customers delete names from folios.

    Not emailing your customers about your planned actions and final action (like other marketplaces do when they remove a name) mean that visitors will arrive at a 'DOMAIN DELETED' landing page.

    WHY do it this way?
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2020
  7. NameZest

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    Do a trademark search on tess for coronafree. Not mine but they allowed it to go live super fast!
     
  8. Corey

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    Starting from today, I will be some of my domains from DAN.COM.

    I find the removal of my Corona Virus related domains unethical and unacceptable.


    Cheers
    Corey
     
  9. jamie white

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    This^^^^ is truth. All of a sudden i see domains saying they agree. I think most agree because someone else beat them to that idea. Your all lying your asses off if you sit there and tell me that you wouldn't sell a domain related to Corona Virus or any other virus for 10K. I would sell the hell out of it. And @Dohmain is 100% right. You got all these Drug and sex related domains based on products that has been destroying peoples lives for a whole lot longer than any other product/Virus related domain. Stop It......
     
  10. LaszloSchenk

    LaszloSchenk Upgraded Member Dan.com Staff Blue Account

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    Good afternoon all,

    Thank you for all the responses.

    At the moment, DAN.COM and team is extremely busy trying to cope with the turbulent times while still operating our day to day businesses. The traffic and engagement increased the past weeks but we want to ensure all enjoy the same service we always provide.. Due to this we did not have the time to be as active as we would like to be on Namepros.

    Like all major changes have been communicated before, the decision to remove the 1500 Corona/Covid-19 related names from the platform was communicated through Namepros and Twitter. We have found that some overlooked these statements and discovered their domains were missing and understand this came as a surprise. We understand the responses leading accordingly.

    As indicated in our initial statement, we are currently experiencing a global pandemic which is new to us all. A large portion of above mentioned names were listed for sale with exorbitant prices imposed on them. The need for many of these domains is high and they could serve a great purpose during these turbulent times.

    We are sorry to hear many of you feel this way. Unfortunately, sometimes we have to take measures that could not please all. However, we have always treated our sellers with the utmost respect and a vested interested to do good and will continue to do so.
     
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  11. Corey

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    Please link to the post by Dan here at NamePros Communicating the removal/deletion of covid/corona domain names from the Dan system @LaszloSchenk

    Cheers
    Corey
     
  12. Bernard Wright

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    Thank you for checking in. It is a hectic time. I have a few questions, when you get a chance.

    So, based on your statements, it seems that it's DAN's track record, and therefore, policy, to communicate major changes via Twitter and NamePros, and not to notify the domain owners directly. Why is it so? Why not notify domain owners via the email address in their account profile?



    This is a problem I think we call can agree needed to be remedied. Remember, this ↑ is the problem that DAN attempted to remedy.

    ...yet, DAN's remedy was to prohibit any transaction whereby the needed domains could be sold to parties who could put them to use,.

    Why not impose price caps, instead of

    1. rendering the names entirely unsellable
    2. not notifying the owners of your actions

    How did DAN think that was going to help remedy the problem we identified above?
     
  13. biggie

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    Hi

    sorry,
    but i'd hate to hear a panelist judging a URDP/WIPO case, using that sentence in reference to a domain owner who is the respondent.

    as it would be irrelevant to the articles of infringement.


    best case, if you felt compelled... would be to remove all prices for such names and set to "Make Offer"

    on other side of this issue

    wonder if any sales reporting sites are or have, reported any virus related sales recently?

    imo...
     
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  14. Bernard Wright

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    Great points there. I agree that “exorbitant” is subjective. Assuming DAN feels they have the discretion to rule on what price is “exorbitant”, their actions were reckless IMO.

    I don’t want corona names to be listed for exorbitant prices. But again, great point: who’s to make that judgment other than the buyer? So, impose Make Offer on all corona names, and the problem is solved.

    Spoken like a veteran. I’m so glad you’re around.
     
  15. mobilespecialists

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    Good decision IMHO! Thumbs up DAN.com (y)

    Should just not affect domains registered before the crisis, since coronavirus is generally a bigger group where CoV-SARS-19 is just one of them.
     
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  16. phptechie

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    I too feel that no one should try to cash-in on using this worrisome pandemic , as it threatens the very existence of the human kind.
    Because too much of domains / websites related to this corona virus would lead to mis-guide with lot of false informations.
    Rather if there are few good domains related to corona with good quality informations like
    # vaccines
    # symptoms
    # pre-cautionary steps
    # world wide statistics
    # local contacts to reach if the visitor is infected
    would definitely help the people in need.

    I would also suggest that these few domains should be owned by govt agencies / NGOs etc,..

    Anyway this is just my personal thoughts.
     
  17. LaszloSchenk

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    Good morning all,

    Thank you for your responses.

    @biggie, I understand your response. It is true that the term exorbitant is subjective to perception. However, when we see domains for sale with over 6 figure asking prices while newly registered we prefer not to assist in the selling of these domains as the opportunity behind them yield more than just personal gain at this point. Allowing all domains to be listed with a make offer only will require a lot of resources to monitor. More importantly, it will shift the problem on hand as the seller still could negotiate the prices that otherwise would be imposed as a buy now price.

    We understand this may come a a surprise to some users and highly appreciate the support and understanding of others. We stand with our decision and prefer to keep our main focus on the increased day to day business while facilitating the sales of all other domains.

    Have a great day.
     
  18. Don Gondon

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    You basically say the buyers get service quality depending on Dan.com staff's perception whether the domain "deserves" its asking price or not?
     
  19. Pay.My.id

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    Appreciate on DAN decision to remove corona /covid related domains from their marketplace. But personally I also appreciate with some users opinion,they should to get notification , so they could change or move domain to another marketplace immadiately

    DAN is one of domain marketplace , where DAN get traffic from park domain or domain that use their nameserver. Corona / covid domain has many traffic , if there is 1500 domain and every domain give 10 - 15 traffic daily , DAN would get new traffic 15.000 22,500 / day based these corona domain ... If DAN inform users by email before removing their domains, so they would lose huge pandemic traffic, cause every owners would change name server or move to another marketplace.

    Its only my simple analyse, don't believe with my opinion . I try to see from SEO perspective
     
  20. biggie

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    Hi @LaszloSchenk

    Appreciate your reply

    i'm only arguing this point, for the future, not so much for the present... but it does set a precedent

    because if you assert that statement as an additional restriction, that was applied due to seller pricing amounts, then....

    basically you are reserving the right to
    "regulate pricing" indiscriminately, at your discretion, which may or may not apply to all domains which are/were "newly registered".

    had such names been registered 5 years prior and priced in 6 figure amounts, would same action or rationale be applied?

    just saying
    should there be a mass pandemic, nuclear war, or force of nature that wrecks havoc in future,
    that sellers owning domains which contain such keywords relating to those occurrences/tragedies, etc, may be subject to the same or similar actions being taken at present.

    simply because,
    it is the nature of a domainer, to acquire domains that others may search for.

    imo....
     
  21. Compotech

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    Yea the idea is good but very hard to implement because one marketplace cannot decide for others they should find a way to contact each other and reach a compromise before bringing out such order
     
  22. Bernard Wright

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    You’re saying the marketplaces should collude to limit domainers’ ability to operate?

    Have you really thought that one through?

    And, why would they do this? ...because “The need for many of these domains is high and they could serve a great purpose during these turbulent times.”, as Laszlo described?

    So you want to cut off the pipeline entirely. Domains are in need, but all the marketplaces should collude to prohibit their sale.

    I’m not in agreement.
     
  23. Compotech

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    Am talking about the banned topic in question which is corona virus related topic try to get my perception
     
  24. Bernard Wright

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    @LaszloSchenk I'm guessing you missed my post above.

    Why is it DAN's policy to communicate major changes via Twitter and NamePros, and not to notify the domain owners directly? Is it not negligent to render a name unsellable, and not notify the seller?

    You say "“The need for many of these domains is high and they could serve a great purpose during these turbulent times.”

    And, if high prices were the problem, as you say, then why not impose price caps, whereby the domain might still reach its potential with a new owner, instead of shutting down the possibility for a sale entirely?
     
  25. Compotech

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    This idea is also good
     

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