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equity78

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The new gtld auction at Sedo has just gotten underway. Each name has a reserve in the $1-$99 range. The star of the auction for .xyz in my opinion is Base.xyz I think that will be the domain name closing at the highest price. There are 60 .xyz domain names in the auction. There are […]
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HotKey

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They could at least highlight the standard renewal ones, because knowing several listings in the auction have premiums attached, it is easy to assume one like Base does since it has the same disclaimer.

Brad
That would work. Make it stand out. Much less guesswork for the buyer and no surprises for someone just scanning through the listings.

Though would that be seen as preferential treatment of sorts.. I mean really a name is a name regardless of renewal, and an end user may just be looking for their perfect match regardless.
 
That would work. Make it stand out. Much less guesswork for the buyer and no surprises for someone just scanning through the listings.

Though would that be seen as preferential treatment of sorts.. I mean really a name is a name regardless of renewal, and an end user may just be looking for their perfect match regardless.

I don't think just simply stating a fact could be considered preferential treatment. If domains with premium renewals are in less demand, it is what it is. That is the free market deciding. It should still be transparent.

Brad
 
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I would personally be pretty upset if I listed Base.xyz in a no reserve auction, and it wasn't clear the domain came with a standard renewal fee.

That could really effect the results.

Brad
 

HotKey

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I don't think just simply stating a fact could be considered preferential treatment. If domains with premium renewals are in less demand, it is what it is. That is the free market deciding. It should still be transparent.

Brad
True. What's in demand is fact indeed, but the nuance comes in basing that demand on investing vs end users and for someone looking for the one name may just look at absorbing premium renewals as part of the cost of their business plan. That's taking an assumption they know about premium renewals to begin with. Danger zone!

At least here on NP we have to set the renewal if it's above a certain threshold which makes it transparent, and you're right it will most definitely affect the results. But by and large we are mostly investors here and we know to dig into stuff before placing that bid.

I am for transparency from the get-go, with new gTLDs it is always a major factor when it comes to renewals and a massive marketplace like Sedo should really take it into consideration for the sake of the end user.
 
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kor

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They can easily list the premium renewal fees.
What's the easiest way to do this?

A while ago I searched for an API to check premium prices but couldn't find a decent source.
 

biggie

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With .XYZ you can find them here -
https://gen.xyz/premiums

Here is a direct link to download the full premium list -
https://gen.xyz/domain-investors/vp/xyz-vp.csv

Brad
Hi

i wouldn't fault sedo alone on this. as at least they did post a disclaimer

neither dan, nor afternic, nor godaddy shows the renewal prices for .xyz names in their seller listings.

the only sites i know that show the renewal prices for auctions of .xyz names, are sav and docky.

and i don't think snapnames, namejet or dropcatch shows renewal pricing either.

i'm sure you guys/gals remember the debate about those premium .xyz names selling for low prices a while back, which was the result of their high renewal costs.

as for "base.xyz", the seller is taking the big risk with such a low reserve, but i hope he gets a good roi for it.
i'll toss in a bid to help :)

imo...
 

Mytz.com

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I don't like Sedo at all now,
When the price of the domain name is very high, they will make you pay,
When the domain name is not satisfactory to the seller, it will default,
Even if the domain name has passed the reservation price,
I just met him two months ago,
I won two domain names in the Sedo auction,
The domain name has passed the reservation price,
However, Sedo confirmed the seller's liquidated damages and agreed to the seller's breach,
I will never buy a domain name in Sedo
 
I don't see how if Sav, a much smaller entity than Sedo, can manage to show renewal date and price for every domain in their extensive auction holdings that Sedo can't do it for 100 or so names in this promoted auction. It would improve clarity, probably encourage more bids, and make sure no one is caught off guard.

The standard disclaimer that Sedo add is not sufficient or helpful.

Re the auction itself, it seems strange in a way to limit to just these TLDs (they claim most sales on their platform in them). The strength of many new gTLD names is the match across the dot, rather than the TLD itself.

I could see perhaps having an auction just for .xyz or .app alone, but beyond that would be better to have a wide open one extension wise, but only accept truly great names.

While there are some truly superb names in this auction, there also are some names I have no idea how they were accepted.

Anyway, to those with good names, I hope you get solid prices from the auction.

Bob
 
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Reyal

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Sedo makes a bad impression on any respected seller and buyer in the gtld market. We can't accept this lack of respect to us.
 

kor

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I don't see how if Sav, a much smaller entity than Sedo, can manage to show renewal date and price for every domain in their extensive auction holdings that Sedo can't do it for 100 or so names in this promoted auction.

Sav is registrar, so it has a private connection to registry systems and can access pricing data directly.

Sedo is just an aftermarket platform, but of course that doesn't mean they can't display premium pricing by providing a simple API connection on their backend.

Sedo looks very old and run down to me. There is no innovation or breakthrough, as if they designed the site in 99 and left it that way.
 
Thanks for the background, @kor
Sav is registrar, so it has a private connection to registry systems and can access pricing data directly.

Sedo is just an aftermarket platform, but of course that doesn't mean they can't display premium pricing by providing a simple API connection on their backend.
Agree Sedo not a registrar (Edit --this is incorrect, they are a registrar, see next post by @Future Sensors ), but given that the entire XYZ premium list is available in downloadable spreadsheet friendly fashion for anyone and that fewer than 100 names in auction, I would have thought it was feasible to provide the information.

I am not sure how easy the premium lists are for the other TLDs though. In fact, I don't even know if .pro has premium renewal names or not.

Thanks again,

Bob

I edited this post to correct a statement.
 
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adrey

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To check the renewal prices put the list of names in epik bulk domain search.
All the backorders greater then 199 is the actual renewal prices.